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[Christopher]

So just to recap....

This man hasn't got out of the bed in 20 years only when he was promised a tour of the chocolate factory...leaving the mom to work and provide for 5 people.

When it was presumed the bread was stolen he told them to keep it anyway

He convinces Charlie to steal the Fizzy drinks which got him in trouble with Mr Wonka.

He told Charlie to give the Gobstopper to Mr Slugworth

The moment Wonka tells Charlie he can move into the factory his first words were "and me...?"

Very Selfish

 

[Reverend Funk]

Willy wanka lmao

 

[Tambini]

Willy wanka lmao

yeah thanks for the laugh op

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Sounds like a right wanker.

 

[Ishida]

I don't think I want to visit Wanka's factory.

 

[CaptainSlow]

Grandpa Joe is a piece of shit. Jim Rome's take on him from years ago always cracks me up.

Here Charlie, take a swig from this bottle. It's ok.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ-hzmfRluU

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

what about Willy Wanka?

he enslaved the Oompa Loompas and the children got punished in gruesome disturbing ways

 

[xRaizen]

Willy Wanka LMAO

Sounds like a nickname for a public masturbator

 

[KeyBladerXIII]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

 

[adj_noun]

Come to think of it, the song isn't Charlie has a golden ticket or We have a golden ticket.

 

[liquidtmd]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

Lawwwwd

 

[lucablight]

The movie adaptation was pretty bad. The Fizzy lifting scene is out of place and never occurs in the book. Also Wonka yelling at Charlie at the end was stupid and something the book Wonka would never have done.

 

[Litan]

what about Willy Wanka?

he enslaved the Oompa Loompas and the children got punished in gruesome disturbing ways

He just wanted to teach them valuable life lessons.

 

[DrunkShogun]

Grandpa joe is a scheming prick. Faked it the whole disability from day one. Wouldn't be surprised if he came this in his youth and made his wife work.

 

[Christopher]

The movie adaptation was pretty bad. The Fizzy lifting scene is out of place and never occurs in the book. Also Wonka yelling at Charlie at the end was stupid and something the book Wonka would never have done.

Iconic though...

 

[novenD]

First thing I thought of after reading that title

Spoiler

You're not wrong though, Joe was a jerk.

 

[Forever Changes]

Willy Wanker was a joke we used to make in junior school.

I didn't mean that as an insult.

 

[213372bu]

I thought Grandpa Joe was alright.

Unless you're referring to some porn parody in which Grandpa Joe and Willy Wanka have sex while under the influence of the fizzy burping soda.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

Oh no

Oh no.

 

[Crayons]

Thanks OP I needed the laugh

 

[chaislip3]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

Looooool

 

[Fury451]

You make good points OP, but this thread is going to be about Willy Wanka instead

 

[Grizzlyjin]

The mom still has the worse song in the movie. Love that film but I leave the room to get a snack when she starts singing. But yeah, Grandpa Joe just got Charlie into more shit. For a poorly supervised minor, he is a good kid.

Man, Charlie's home life really did suck. All those people dying in his living room. The fuck was wrong with them, they all have the plague or something?

 

[Social]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

Look at that happy ending!

 

[Stinkles]

The movie adaptation was pretty bad. The Fizzy lifting scene is out of place and never occurs in the book. Also Wonka yelling at Charlie at the end was stupid and something the book Wonka would never have done.

The movie adaptation is certainly different but it's widely acknowledged as one of the best children's movies ever and you should feel ashamed.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

The movie adaptation was pretty bad. The Fizzy lifting scene is out of place and never occurs in the book. Also Wonka yelling at Charlie at the end was stupid and something the book Wonka would never have done.

The first third of the movie is incredible. It's darkly funny and sarcastic. Genuine laughs all around.

By the time the kids get to the factory, the writing takes a huge nose dive. The rest of the movie lives by Gene Wilder's acting and the set design. It's a shame too, because the opening is just amazingly funny.

 

[DopeToast]

The movie adaptation was pretty bad. The Fizzy lifting scene is out of place and never occurs in the book. Also Wonka yelling at Charlie at the end was stupid and something the book Wonka would never have done.

The movie changes in Willy Wonka are the reasons why I like that movie so much. It's one of the few instances where I think the changes they made improve on the original considerably.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

It was the climax of the movie.

 

[Ganzlinger]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

lmao

 

[lucablight]

The movie adaptation is certainly different but it's widely acknowledged as one of the best children's movies ever and you should feel ashamed.

Did you know even Roald Dahl hated the movie? He thought it was too sappy and didn't properly convey the vision of his book. That's why we never got a sequel. I'll take his word over anyone else's. The director of the movie really missed the point.

 

[Amalthea]

I always assumed there was some dark secret to the chocolate factory. Like the main ingredient of the chocolate is kids blood and the tour is just a trick to get fresh "supplies".

I mean it was invented by the guy who did The Witches...

 

[Stinkles]

Did you know even Roald Dahl hated the movie? He thought it was too sappy and didn't properly convey the vision of his book. That's why we never got a sequel. I'll take his word over anyone else's. The director of the movie really missed the point.

I'll take my own opinion before the author's intent because I'm not a sheep.

I love both equally for different reasons.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Grandpa Joe was a survivor, doing what he had to to get by in this cruel world

 

[HelloMeow]

Someone should mosaic censor that gif.

 

[lucablight]

The movie changes in Willy Wonka are the reasons why I like that movie so much. It's one of the few instances where I think the changes they made improve on the original considerably.

How are the changes a good thing? The whole story is about kids being disobedient and getting their comeuppance. Charlie breaks the rules yet is exempt from having to pay any price. By having that scene the director missed the point because he is meant to be the only child in the group who isn't a degenerate.

Also Wonka yelling at Charlie is stupid. He's meant to be an eccentric wacky happy go lucky guy who never takes anything seriously and is always in control of his emotions. Not a guy who yells out in anger. How does having him yell at Charlie improve the story at all?

 

[Funyarinpa]

I always assumed there was some dark secret to the chocolate factory. Like the main ingredient of the chocolate is kids blood and the tour is just a trick to get fresh "supplies".

I mean it was invented by the guy who did The Witches...

Hell, if this is to be a Dahl thread we can't not mention George's Amazing Medicine. The book ends with

Spoiler

George's grandma becoming small enough to disappear and the WHOLE family going "Oh well, that gets rid of that bother." Shit's fucking twisted

also OP the title fucking got me thanks

 

[Volotaire]

You're a crook. You're a cheat and a swindler! That's what you are!

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

So shines a good deed in a weary world..

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Did they not make that joke in Extra's? Willy Wonka? Johnny Wanker.

 

[Izuna]

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Did you know even Roald Dahl hated the movie? He thought it was too sappy and didn't properly convey the vision of his book. That's why we never got a sequel. I'll take his word over anyone else's. The director of the movie really missed the point.

"There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it's a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews. I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason."

Roald Dahl had some opinions.

 

[Escape Goat]

At least Charlie got the girl in the end.

 

[Eblo]

 

[Ivan 3414]

"There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it's a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews. I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason."

Roald Dahl had some opinions.

Mind providing a source before you tear down my childhood influences?

 

[CornDogg]

Wanna Wanka Willy Wanka?

This is amazing. I can't stop laughing. Wonka's hand motion is perfect for this.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Mind providing a source before you tear down my childhood influences?

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/12/07/opinion/l-roald-dahl-also-left-a-legacy-of-bigotry-880490.html

 

[lucablight]

"There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it's a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews. I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason."

Roald Dahl had some opinions.

That's disappointing to hear but him being well credentialed to have an opinion on the film adaptation of his book is unrelated to his political beliefs.

 

[AniHawk]

How are the changes a good thing? The whole story is about kids being disobedient and getting their comeuppance. Charlie breaks the rules yet is exempt from having to pay any price. By having that scene the director missed the point because he is meant to be the only child in the group who isn't a degenerate.

Also Wonka yelling at Charlie is stupid. He's meant to be an eccentric wacky happy go lucky guy who never takes anything seriously and is always in control of his emotions. Not a guy who yells out in anger. How does having him yell at Charlie improve the story at all?

the comeuppance for the kids happens as a direct result of their actions. charlie's nearly killed in the fizzy lifting drink room, but joe and charlie figure a way out of it.

i had always interpreted the scene of wonka at the end to be him expressing his disappointment, not anger, at charlie's deception. when charlie gives back the candy, he's trying to make amends by being honest with wonka instead of potentially profiting from it (when his desperate family could really use the money). i don't think wonka knows about the size of the sacrifice for charlie, but it makes him realize he was wrong about the kid.

and besides it was joe's fault anyway.

 

[dab0ne]

Not long before they drink the fizzy drink Charlie asks why no one will listen to Wonka when it comes to trying excitemental candy and Gpa Joe says something like "because they're nincompoops". He then proceeds to do the same thing. Didn't even make sense to my young mind lol.

 

[Karkador]

Look, what do you expect from Grandpa Joe?

He lives a miserable life, trapped in a mental prison at home, probably buried in PTSD after seeing two world wars. Maybe Grandpa Joe's fascination with the Chocolate Factory is that it's a vibrant bed of tulips in the scorched earth that defines most of Grandpa Joe's past.

Maybe it reminds him of his life as a child; and the burgeoning life of his untainted grandson Charlie, his window to the outside world.

Look, Grandpa Joe may have seen and done some questionable shit in the horrific days of Britain's involvement in the wars, and the sun setting on the British Empire. Things even worse than that tunnel scene. He may or may not have past ties to influential people who maybe think Wanka is a threat to the crown. But that's not what on trial here.

But if someone offers you a hand out of your death bed and a chance relive your childhood, even for a day, would you NOT get up to some hijinks and irresponsible misbehaving? Charlie is too kind to break the rules, which is why the old man has to show him the value of the carefree days of youth.