Dreamfixx said:It's just that Liefield can't fucking draw.
Fight for Freeform said:I'm doing the exact same thing as well, haven't actually started yet but will next month.
It's been years since I've drawn, and I need to come up with concept art for my little MOD which features mechs (more of the Japanese style, but kinda my own style).
So I've downloaded many pics of superhero poses off the net, and I also downloaded pics of concept cars.
Using the poses, I will trace them (not exactly, but keep the bodily form and shape quite similar) and in it's place some shielding, and this shielding's look will be influenced by these concept cars. I wanted mechs that were distinct, and not considered "anime" off the bat. Very humanoid, just like anime Mechs, but something very exotic and sexy looking. The same feeling someone gets when they see a car like THIS , I want the person to have when they see one of these Mechs.
Anyways, sorry for being off topic.
I think that if someone wants a realistic look to their art, it doesn't hurt to reference real life.
Some people lack certain skills, and make up for it in other ways. As a musician, I know I can make killer hooks and melodies, but my song structures are always whack.
In my latest track, I've completely copied the song structure, mimicking how long the intro lasts,when the breakdown kicks in, and how many bars the out-tro should last. The end result was pretty good. Hmm...I'm just talking about myself this entire post
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please excuse my grammar and spelling....f*ck I'm getting bad!
bune duggy said:as good a place as any I guess: what is this from?
so it's dynamic? I've only seen the Grenadier one.Matlock said:If it's the tits? Grenadier.
If it's a picture of a guy? Charlie Frye.
If it's anime dude? Lupin.
Outcast2004 said:The people screaming "TRACER" obviously aren't artists themselves....
Well I am, so listen up...
Photo reference is a huge part of what you do. No one draws completely from memory, influences and reference can be taken from many different forms of media.
Ross's stuff is great, but he does almost nothing unless he's got a photo of reference with one of his character models. You need that when you are doing high quality color work for lighting and color depth. There's no "tracing", it's all freehanded from a photo probably taped on the drafting board next to their piece they are working on.
Besides, a lot of Ross's stuff is ripped from older comic panels INTENTIONALLY. He's a very old school guy and like to show respect for the former artist by basically redrawing and painting their panel or page.
It doesn't matter how great your stuff looks, if the lighting is off or proportions not right it will throw off the whole piece.
This isn't Liefeld we're talking about here, he steals entire page layouts from other comic artists and slap his own lame character in them.
For myself, I have difficulty getting the nuances of the hands down so I use a lot of reference for that. That isn't cheating. Every art teacher I've ever had as always said "Draw what you see, not what you know", it's great advice too.
I don't even consider inking "tracng", there's a lot to that as well. A good inker can bad a bad piece of art goood and the other way around.
borghe said:this is all fine and whatnot, but in Ross' case with the Kingdom Come TPB and LAnd's case with the infamous Sojourn/SI incident, they are LINE PERFECT copies. I understand drawing from life and even drawing from reference, but as has been shown with both of these pieces through photoshop, every last line and nuance lines up. Not even the slightest variation in most cases.
borghe said:You also gloss over the point that it is one thing to draw from reference, and entirely other matter to actually take the original to a light table.
You bring up a pretty good point. I've never tried it myself, but I can't imagine it being easy to trace through bristol board. For those who don't know, bristol board is really thick. Still, it is possible to apply a trace through tracing paper or via projector.Outcast2004 said:BTW, good luck tryng to light table through bristol board. You won't see much.