I'm the same. But considering I see this card carrying me for 4 years or so I can easily justify buying one.
Once all the crazy overprice debacle dies down though.
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GTX 1070 is slightly faster than a Titan X and GTX 980 ti, reveals 3DMark benchmark
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I'm the same. But considering I see this card carrying me for 4 years or so I can easily justify buying one.
Once all the crazy overprice debacle dies down though.
Boss Mog
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Even if you could possibly get a 980Ti a little cheaper than a 1070. I think that would be a mistake for a few reasons. First off the 1070 has 33% more memory than the 980Ti which could make it a little more future-proof especially if 4K becomes the standard. Second, it's a new architecture and nVidia will mainly focus on Pascal when developing their drivers from now on; it's why nVidia cards don't age well. And lastly and most importantly, the 1070 has a huge overclocking potential and hopefully the custom cards will come with more than a single 8-pin connector to get the most out of these cards, but even with a single 8-pin connector a 25% overclock should be possible.
The 980Ti didn't make the 970 drop at all. It's basically still the same price at when it launched almost 2 years ago.
The 980Ti didn't make the 970 drop at all. It's basically still the same price at when it launched almost 2 years ago.
Basically nvidia are moving everything up a tier for pricing, which sucks. 1070 is 980 price, 1080 is 980ti price. Question is whether they adjust those down next year when the 1080ti comes out, or they'll just price the 1080ti even higher
Same
The FE is $450 that has "better cooling and premium materials" markting bullshit, I'll wait till the non FE cards launch.
jasminlovesyoux
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Does anybody know the power consumption of the 1070 yet? Id like to put the card in my alien ware x51 if it could take it!
TDP of 150W for FE, as opposed to 145W of 970.
No such thing as futureproofing GPUs yet.
There is no other reference card. The FE is the reference card. I don't know why there is so much trouble understanding this.
Why would the aibs cards be significantly cheaper than the reference card? Unless it's a cheap plastic blower cooler, it isn't going to be.
jasminlovesyoux
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Presumably, because they will get the parts/license/whatever it is they actually acquire from NV for a different price, and crucially because there will be competition in both price and feature sets among vendors.
ss_lemonade
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What a nice upgrade to my
am i winning the game?
7 million polys. What did consoles at the time do? I think the dreamcast was capable of a million. Man, I sort of miss those days when these numbers were relevant lol. The saturn even had spec numbers for the SH2 and stuff at the back of the console manual, 200k polys, 16 million colors etc
But if somebody is willing to blow £400 on a 1070 they'll just as easily drop the extra £150 on the 1080. It's not a massive difference and could potentially damage 1070 sales.
nVidia really need to put some distance between the two price-wise. £550-600 for the 1080 as expected but £300 for the 1070 would be ideal.
That would be brilliant, but I see £350 tbh.
That completely depends on each individual game, and how CPU- or GPU-heavy its workload is.
Theoretical performance, but should be close.
1080 is more than 50% more expensive than the 1070 at the 'normal' prices ($379 / $599) for way less than 50% more power. The 1070 is clearly better value for those that want value - if you want the best power and don't mind paying for it, then the 1080 is obviously there for you.
For 1080P I would say your are safe for 3-4 years. 1440P hard to say, 2-3 depending on the type of games you like. These cards are so overpowered for 1080P its going to be years before engines over stress them.
ShogunDarius
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would a factory oc 1080 last 5 years?
popsicle_sundays
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Was waiting for some form of benchmarks on the 1070 and glad they don't disappoint. I'll wait for the standard edition because at $379 that card is a steal. Upgrading from 2 x 570's will be pretty awesome 
Coulomb_Barrier
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Really does suck, I mean I've got a bit of money for a new card, but I'm not spending more than £350 for one. So it'll either be a 1070 or the 480X.
Dunno but what I did was swung my trusty EVGA 980 SC on Amazon sellers market quick time (because eBay seller fees are now ridiculous) and managed to get a healthy 270 quid for it after fees. I then purchased a £93 GTX 750 Ti that I'm going to return in 3 and a half weeks (I'm going to try avoid paying a restocking fee...) to get my money back.
Then, if any of the new cards are out and are the right price, I'll open the purse strings. If not, I'll get an old, filthy and used 290 to tide me over for another 4 weeks which I'll probably keep to play around with overclocking.
As an aside I've been having fun overclocking the little 750 Ti I bought just today. Running it with a 1285 Mhz boost clock.
Boss★Moogle;204643353 said:
Where are you getting the information from that the 1070 is a huge overclocker? Compared to Maxwell, Pascal seems to overclock a little less comparatively, no? If you read the reviews and not get bamboozled by that mythical '2ghz core clock' marketing. Iirc you can get an 10-12% core-clock OC on the 1080, which is hardly a 'huge overclocker'.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/30.html
yes. The real question is 'at what graphics settings'. It won't max things at 4k/60 for 5 years (it won't max everything at 4k/60 now). But it should be pretty nice for a good while.
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I know what you're saying but there's a big difference between stretching to £400 vs £600.
At a push I can see myself dropping around £300 for my next card (a replacement for my GTX 970) in a years time or so when the 1070 drops in price but I'll never speed £600 on a card.
We have no idea so far of how well (or not well) Pascal chips overclock, since there aren't any non-reference cards yet.
Mass Effect
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Well that's just great.
I wonder how long before we get the AIB cards? By at least mid-August surely.
Actually, graphics cards rarely get an official price cut. They just get replaced by their successors. Which is probably also what will happen here (e.g. 970 will be rendered obsolete by 1070 and probably subsequently 1060).
No price drop, unless there will be a clearance sale at some store, as Nvidia stopped manufacturing (all?) Maxwell chips last month.
Huh, finally time to upgrade despite the Canadian dollar I guess! Only question now is whether to upgrade my elderly GPU (660ti) or my equally old CPU (i5-3450).
Either way, seems like I can probably upgrade my PC for less than $1000 and keep it that way for a good 7 or so years(I'm the kind of guy who's okay with 30fps). Happy I won't need to be stuck with a 970, which I was planning to buy.
Either way, seems like I can probably upgrade my PC for less than $1000 and keep it that way for a good 7 or so years(I'm the kind of guy who's okay with 30fps). Happy I won't need to be stuck with a 970, which I was planning to buy.
Coulomb_Barrier
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True but if we get much more than 2200Mhz average overclocked boost on the 1080 I'd be surprised.
Undoubtedly prices will eventually come down from the reference launch price, as has been the case with every gpu, but to expect a $70-100 immediate price cut is unrealistic.
Was waiting for some form of benchmarks on the 1070 and glad they don't disappoint. I'll wait for the standard edition because at $379 that card is a steal. Upgrading from 2 x 570's will be pretty awesome
What is this standard edition? Until nvidia or an aib shows us what a $379 card looks like, it doesn't have a $379 msrp.
lightchris
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So you expect the 1070 to last 3 years longer than your 660 Ti? Why?
jabberwocker
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Well if he wants to stick with a 1080p 22" monitor he should be good for quite a while. Remember some people don't have to have 8k mega super ultra 240fps.
jabberwocker
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Titan x has always been $$ for what you get comparatively.
A good upgrade?
Yautja_Warrior
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Well I said in that range, I never said it would be the lower price.
I've had a quick look at Overclockers UK and the 1080 Founder cards are up for around £650, so when the 3rd Party cards arrive they should be around £500-£550. No 1070 cards up to preorder yet but they will likely be around £350-£400 from looking at the 1080 price,
Unless they price them a little higher, around £450 and they have a 1060 lined up that will be priced around the £300 range.
Even so, the cost vs performance for that kind of money is still great.
Because I plan on sticking with 30FPS after a couple years, plus the fact that I'm kind of playing games on a delayed schedule right now. In 7 years I'll probably still be catching up with games in the next 4 years haha.
(Also realistically I will upgrade sooner than 7 years anyway but if I fool myself into thinking that I can justify the expense a lot easier)
Modest Mauser
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Well, if you're cool with buying one used, they're going for pretty damn cheap online second-hand now because of all the people selling because they're planning to upgrade to the 1080/1070