• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

I get it now. I understand why you want Half-Life 3

Welcome to the club.

Now you're stuck in the club.

Congrats

I don't know ow why they didn't just put out a god damned 4 hour long ep 3 and end the story decently enough 11 years ago.....

That's kinda what I want to know now.

They did two episodes, there were clear story threads and there was a third episode announced. What happened?

Just losing interest after everything is so weird to me.
 
Welcome to the endless suffering, enjoy your stay.

lies Lies LIES liessssss
Jc86pIZ.gif

I wanna punch that dude.
 
I still end up playing something from the Half-Life universe at least once a year. Pretty amazing how well they stand up today after all these years. At least one eventual day I will probably be well prepared for a return to that universe
 
I still end up playing something from the Half-Life universe at least once a year. Pretty amazing how well they stand up today after all these years. At least one eventual day I will probably be well prepared for a return to that universe

What are you, some sort of masochist?
 
I have the episodes on Steam but I have not played them yet.

Oh, dude...

Then you really don't understand at all. Not until you see the ending of Ep 2. Not until you understand the pain of it being left AT THAT.

Go play them, right now, tonight, go. Theyre not super long, and Ep2 is very very good.

Come back when youve finished that, and we shall embrace you.
 
You beat both games in less than two days?

Bloody hell, dude.

They're not that big. The first game is actually quite short. But only two games? You gotta also play Opposing Forces, Blue Shift (you can actually skip this one), Episode 1 and 2, and then top it off with the fan made Black Mesa.

The HL2 E2 ending is painful though... especially if you play through Portal 2 where Valve teases the episode 2 ending even harder.
 
So, I played Half-Life and its sequel (for the first time) this weekend and what an ending. Like WTF seriously?
That's how it ends? Is there more somewhere because that ending was absurd? They're going to make a third one, right?

Welcome to the family, son.
 
That's kinda what I want to know now.

They did two episodes, there were clear story threads and there was a third episode announced. What happened?

Just losing interest after everything is so weird to me.

It's clear that the scope of the project outgrew a mere expansion, but I think what threw a spanner into the works is the success and subsequent expansion of Portal. With the original being a critical and commercial darling, Aperture Science's role in the Half-Life universe grew beyond what Valve had anticipated and there was difficulty in reconciling the shift from a testing facility to a massive madhouse of science with the narrative framework for Episode Three that was already in place. This eventually lead to the project being rebooted as a fully-fledged sequel, which in turn lead to inertia as Valve struggled to settle on a cohesive vision for the campaign.
 
I used to be a Valve obsessive. I lost all respect for them. They built an empire off of Half-life's success, then they just moved on and raked in cash, without even the decency to arrange for an outside studio to finish the series. It's despicable, really. Especially since it represented zero financial risk. The game would have sold, well, and probably still would. I've given up on them, though.
 
I used to be a Valve obsessive. I lost all respect for them. They built an empire off of Half-life's success, then they just moved on and raked in cash, without even the decency to arrange for an outside studio to finish the series. It's despicable, really. Especially since it represented zero financial risk. The game would have sold, well, and probably still would. I've given up on them, though.

Shame on Valve for not shitting out a quick cash grab!
 
I've said it before but I'd settle for a $20 overpriced web comic in place of HL3 just so I can know how it ends. Anything would be better than what is actually happening with the series.

Valve has never charged any money for the TF2, DOTA2 or L4D comics they made (though they did later bundle some of them in a physical book, you can still read them all online for free).
 
now that you are done try some mods:
mission improbable
research and development
Minerva: metastasis
transmissions element 120
 
So, I played Half-Life and its sequel (for the first time) this weekend and what an ending. Like WTF seriously?
That's how it ends? Is there more somewhere because that ending was absurd? They're going to make a third one, right?

Yeah. The Ep. 2 ending was not like Portal 2, like, "huh okay there's some stuff that could suggest a Portal 3". No, HL ep. 2 is like the end of Empire Strikes Back, like, "Okay, y'all ready to get serious now?" And then nothing. For years. I mean imagine if Lucas had never done a third film and just left Han in carbonite forever.

I will never forgive Valve for that.
 
I remember when I Was lttp for episode 2 for about a year and a half. Since then I've been wishing to Santa for half life 3, or another episode, just.... Anything. I remember when my daughter was born, and in the back of my mind was "where's half life 3 doe" Good job OP, you are now eternally unsatisfied with life because of the lack of half life 3.
 
I played Half-life and episodes not long ago to and yes it's a good game but way overrated.
 
I played and beat Episode 2 the day it came out, been waiting ever since.

Play Ep 1, 2 and come back. Then you'll understand.
 
Valve is in such a weird position in the video game industry. Usually when a studio has a critically acclaimed series going, especially one with obvious hooks with a sequel planned, they'll start work on it because they get paid that way and want to be able to eat.

But Valve, humble little gamemakers find themselves suddenly in charge of one of the greatest digital storefronts on the PC and damn, they no longer have to make anything they don't feel like making. I count myself lucky to have been able to play Portal 2 as it is.
 
My secret wish is that Valve stealth releases Half-Life 3 on a random day
as a web comic that finishes the story
.
 
But Valve, humble little gamemakers find themselves suddenly in charge of one of the greatest digital storefronts on the PC and damn, they no longer have to make anything they don't feel like making. I count myself lucky to have been able to play Portal 2 as it is.

Valve didnt just stumble into Steam. They developed a platform within a platform so that they would have complete financial control of PC gaming. They will do whatever they think will make the most money for the least amount of effort.
 
Yeah. The Ep. 2 ending was not like Portal 2, like, "huh okay there's some stuff that could suggest a Portal 3". No, HL ep. 2 is like the end of Empire Strikes Back, like, "Okay, y'all ready to get serious now?" And then nothing. For years. I mean imagine if Lucas had never done a third film and just left Han in carbonite forever.

I will never forgive Valve for that.

Man, I really hope HL3 turns out better than Return of the Jedi.
 
Mark Laidlaw, the man writer of Half Life, is no longer at Valve.

I don't see how the story continues without him. Or at least it won't continue as how it was originally intended.
 
The continuing saga of the mythical production of Episode 3/HL3 has been nothing short of fascinating.

I think one of the reasons they abandoned making Episode 3 in favor of a potential HL3 is because the way Valve works isn't really conductive to an episodic model, and they realized that. Fuck, how long did it take for Episode 2 to come out after Episode 1? Valve are the sort of studio who obsess over details to make sure things are the best they can be as far as they're concerned, Yahtzee was invited to visit them once when they were making Meet The Pyro and after he raised some potential feedback everyone else in the meeting room immediately started debating what exactly he meant and how they could adjust the film to address it, and he immediately realised "ah, so that's why they take so long to do things".

That being said, who knows what's happening right now with the HL3 project. Valve has either given up because they likely can't live up to the hype, or taking their sweet time trying to figure out something as revolutionary as the first two games.
 
Mark Laidlaw, the man writer of Half Life, is no longer at Valve.

I don't see how the story continues without him. Or at least it won't continue as how it was originally intended.

Did he had it laid out completely already? Hard to imagine why they didn't get right to it then when it was all still episode based.

I always imagined they would go to the borealis,
then found the portal technology there to go directly to the Combine homeworld to fight the Combine Overlords, and that would lead to the revelation of what the G-Man was really up to or you'd even get the chance to fight him or his people, which then would end the story. Something like that.
 
Half-life 2 did not age well at all. Halo 2 = 2004 goty and greatest fps sequel of all time.

It aged well outside of the strangely stiff console controls. For the life of me I can't make them feel as tight as other shooters.

Both the Orange Box and OG Xbox build suffer from this. I'm assuming the god-awful PS3 port has the same issue as well.
 
why

there's a lot more potential to explore the gameplay further in portal than in just another fps that's for damn sure
- After the ending of P2, all the mystery is gone. Everything have been explored in terms of lore imo.
- P2 introduced some cool mechanics. Expanding any further on that will either make some stuff a gimmick or alienate the other two games mechanics.
- I felt satisfied with how P2 ended, don't feel there is any need of more sequels.

And the L4D series is not just another fps. It is one of the best coop fps games created. The AI director is one of the best gaming inventions. There is still so much potential in that series.
 
Top Bottom