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I get it now. I understand why you want Half-Life 3

this is why i refuse to play the games. if you aren't going to bother finishing the story then i'm not playing it. if they ever do release HL3 then then i'll go back and play through the games.
 
Mexen said:
So, I played Half-Life and its sequel (for the first time) this weekend and what an ending. Like WTF seriously?
That's how it ends? Is there more somewhere because that ending was absurd? They're going to make a third one, right?
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Now play HL2:ep1, Portal, then HL2 ep2
 
Elon knows that feel:

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tci said:
- After the ending of P2, all the mystery is gone. Everything have been explored in terms of lore imo.
- P2 introduced some cool mechanics. Expanding any further on that will either make some stuff a gimmick or alienate the other two games mechanics.
- I felt satisfied with how P2 ended, don't feel there is any need of more sequels.

And the L4D series is not just another fps. It is one of the best coop fps games created. The AI director is one of the best gaming inventions. There is still so much potential in that series.
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I don't really mind if the lore or story of Portal feels finished. I care primarily about the puzzle gameplay. And I think there are tons of interesting elements they could include that would still be true to Portal.

Sorry for being unclear. "Just another fps" was referring to Half-life, not L4D. L4D is not my thing because I'm not into co-op games, but I do agree they can take that gameplay further. Asynchronous multi-player could be one way to do that. Increasing the number of zombies by an order of magnitude could be another if the next generation of consoles have much beefier CPUs, which I hope they will.

The only thing that would make me care about Half-life 3 is if it is simultaneously Portal 3. Let Gordon get hold of the portal gun 20% into the game and make it a center part of the gameplay (unlike the gravity gun which mostly felt like a gimmick) with lots of Portal-style puzzles. Do that and I would play HL3 despite my distaste for fps games
 
Yeah, now imagine if you played HL2 in effing 2004. 13 years of agony.

Also the fact that it released in 2004 means it was absolutely incredible for its time. I've seen so many people who played it in the Orange Box or within the last few years say things like "meh, its ok", but you have to understand that shit came out in 2004. It was mind blowing for its time.
 
I feel like valve has some sort of aversion or phobia of the number 3.


Half life 2. Episode 2. Team fortress 2. Dota 2. Left for dead 2. Portal 2.

How many valve developed games have a 3 in their title?
 
tci said:
- After the ending of P2, all the mystery is gone. Everything have been explored in terms of lore imo.
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I still believe there's room even narratively speaking for the portal-less prequel that the game was originally going to be. The (actual mid-game spoiler)
yesteryear ApSci levels were more of a glimpse into the company's ill-fated past and Cave Johnson's descent into madness than a thorough exploration
.

On a related note, I expect Valve to use ApSci being a madhouse of science as the backdrop for its more creative/experimental releases. We've seen this already, albeit on a more microcosmic scale, with The Lab and I think it's just the beginning.

Leithkorias said:
I feel like valve has some sort of aversion or phobia of the number 3.


Half life 2. Episode 2. Team fortress 2. Dota 2. Left for dead 2. Portal 2.

How many valve developed games have a 3 in their title?
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If you squint, "Free to Play" almost looks like "Three to Play", although it's not a game.
 
Nobody played half life for the story. In fact the lack of story is inherently what makes the game special...Gabe is not in this to finish the story and ppl that don't understand that don't understand valve and need to move on
 
Well OP, from what I can tell you still have the best yet to come, you can at least get back right where you left off and experience the greatness of Episode 1, and then you can be crushed again by reality by the not as good Episode 2 with its own monumental cliffhanger.

Nategc20 said:
Half-life 2 did not age well at all. Halo 2 = 2004 goty and greatest fps sequel of all time.
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Halo 2's campaign wasn't good in 2004 and only got worse with age. Half-Life 2 on the other hand, quite a mindblower at the time, those facial animations were a real sight and the environmental art design was unmatched. But once the presentation stopped overtaking the senses it really was just a kind of poorly paced shooter which didn't actually have very good combat design.
 
half life 2 episode 2 ending was a shitty one, just a nonsensical cliffhanger for the sake of having one... but i wouldn't refuse an half life 3 if it is of the same quality of half life 2 and the episodes. such good games.
 
I almost wish the episodes didn't exist or were considered non-canon or something. HL2 ends with the same cliffhanger HL1 did - 'you've done what we wanted you to do, now back in the box with you'. It was perfect. HL3 could have pulled a HL2 and dropped Gordon in the middle of a whole other story.
 
I finished HL2 with its expansions just a few years ago (for some reason it gave me motion sickness and migraines the first years) and omg. What a game. What a story. What a... wait bro, is this the ending?

So, yes, welcome to the drama club op :'|
 
Meh, most over rated series of all time


Cue clever avatar quote
 
admiraltaftbar said:
Yeah it's be one thing if Valve had gone out of business after half life 2 and the story never got finished but instead we are stuck waiting forever to see the end for a cliffhanger that's probably never going to be resolved. DotA and CSGO are fun but I don't know why people treat Valve like some perfect dev when they refuse to even create a comic to finish a story that should've ended a long time ago.
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I find the line of thinking that it's never going to be released to be a bit absurd, really. They've said several times already (and said the same thing again just last month, only not specifically relating to Half Life) why they haven't announced the next game properly yet; they're the sort of developer that are willing to keep changing something until they're happy, rather than just rush something out. Pretty much every Valve game has had significant changes between announcement and release, so that isn't some new thing they've suddenly started doing. Gabe said a few years back (with him specifically referring to Half life just using the name 'Richochet 2') that they're not going to do that this time and aren't going to announce it until it's definitely ready.

Talking about it before it was ready is what caused this problem in the first place. They 'announced'/mentioned Episode 3 well before it was a certain thing, and then because of changes they made and not being happy with it, we've been waiting over a decade.

Also, the (presumed) Engine change to Source 2 would have stopped it being ready over the past few years.

It's not like other games where it's just never mentioned again and we have no idea why. Don't forget that Team Fortress 2 took them about a decade to make as well, but that silence didn't mean it had been forgotten and wasn't being worked on.
 
I got the Half Life 2 games for free basically, but just knowing that it doesn't get wrapped up has prevented me from ever playing them.
 
nilbog21 said:
Nobody played half life for the story. In fact the lack of story is inherently what makes the game special...Gabe is not in this to finish the story and ppl that don't understand that don't understand valve and need to move on
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You're horribly mistaken.
 
Nategc20 said:
Half-life 2 did not age well at all. Halo 2 = 2004 goty and greatest fps sequel of all time.
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I'm sure it's an unpopular opinion, but I agree. Half-Life 2 looks and feels terrible, the gunplay is weak, sound unsatisfying, bland visual designs, and first-person platforming and puzzles that were terrible then and are terrible now.

I appreciate the setting, and aside from the "Gordon Freeman is god" stuff I like some of the characters and story beats, but overall I find it supremely uninteresting and not worth another playthrough.
 
Mexen said:
So, I played Half-Life and its sequel (for the first time) this weekend and what an ending. Like WTF seriously?
That's how it ends? Is there more somewhere because that ending was absurd? They're going to make a third one, right?
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Play Episode 1 + 2 they will give a conclusive satisfying ending
 
Yeah, as interested as I am in the series, I'm not playing it until a continuation gets announced. Sounds like it ends on a big cliffhanger or something and I'm not trying to deal with that disappointment.
 
It's funny because during development I remember reading/watching an interview where they said the transition to Episodic releases would ensure that they could get the game out in a timely matter for the masses.

10 years later......
 
Mexen said:
So, I played Half-Life and its sequel (for the first time) this weekend and what an ending. Like WTF seriously?
That's how it ends? Is there more somewhere because that ending was absurd? They're going to make a third one, right?
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No.

These days Valve officially suck because they have ignored their loyal fans for years. So the fans have moved on.

Now they do steam or some boiling kettle or something.
 
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