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IGN: Devs: PS4/Xbox 3 By Jan 2014, Xbox 3 easiest/best selling, Wii U "too complex."
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BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Saw this coming...
In this thread: GAF members respond to shitty IGN article.
IGN spreading anti-Wii U FUD.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The complex comment suprises me, but I'm not suprised that developers aren't going to be willing to get creative with the Wii U Tablet. I guess the idea is that if the gameplay ideas introduced with the U version can't be applied to the other versions, then it's simply not worth doing.
I'm getting a feeling that the top developers are going to blow the U off when PS4 and Durango arrive.
I'm getting a feeling that the top developers are going to blow the U off when PS4 and Durango arrive.
Obviously Vita®go.
What the developers mean to say is they don't want to have to hassle with coming up with something for the screen on the Wii U.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Oooh, mystery platform? I'm guessing Steambox or iTV.
Barry Burton
Member
N64 and GameCube say hello.
Barring lightning striking twice with the casual audience with Wii U, they are going to need to reverse the trend of getting poor third party support on their home consoles. If they aren't making that a high priority item, then I'm not sure what they are doing.
test_account
XP-39C²
Ah, i see. Yeah, it could look like it is about the same developer who said both things.You're right. I've misread, I thought that the one lamented about moving innovating games to Wii U was the same who said it was too complex. But for my defense, english is not my native language.
By the way, i didnt mean to single you out, sorry, because i see that other people here who said the same thing regarding making stuff for the controller would be too complex. It is fully possible that this is what the developer ment, but i just wanted to mention that it is only an assumption
GhostTrick
Banned
Anyway, the title of the article and of this thread is really misleading.
IGN said that devs struggle with the Wii U, but that's not what has really been said.
They said it's challenging, but it doesn't mean they struggling with the hardware itself, it can be about making a good use of the pad. Find ideas.
IGN said that devs struggle with the Wii U, but that's not what has really been said.
They said it's challenging, but it doesn't mean they struggling with the hardware itself, it can be about making a good use of the pad. Find ideas.
So 37% said it wasn't the most complex to work with? Where does IGN get these numbers?
If true, pretty disappointing. I thought Nintendo's original goal with the thing was to entice third party developers back by making it easy to work with. Although recent rumors indicate the GPU might have "unique" features that 3rd party developers might not want to waste their time with.
If true, pretty disappointing. I thought Nintendo's original goal with the thing was to entice third party developers back by making it easy to work with. Although recent rumors indicate the GPU might have "unique" features that 3rd party developers might not want to waste their time with.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Yep. This thread will go well.
The PS360 configuration is what I was talking about. The Wii U ports won't have much differences than the PS360/NextBox/PS4 versions. What I'm talking about is nothing new.
Don't mean to add more rain to what is the ocean of what seems to be annoyed GAFers, but after reading through it all, that's about what we've got here.
That said, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN IT'S "TOO COMPLEX"?
Boss Man
Member
Banking on the success of the Wii, apparently. Wii U.
Hah every generation devs have their excuses.
n64: lol cartridges
gc: lol mini disks
wii: lol graphics
wii-u: lol too complex
Too complex is the worst yet. I think the truth is developers don't want to compete with Nintendo games because they see them more as competitors than they see Sony and MS. Sales charts tend to agree.
n64: lol cartridges
gc: lol mini disks
wii: lol graphics
wii-u: lol too complex
Too complex is the worst yet. I think the truth is developers don't want to compete with Nintendo games because they see them more as competitors than they see Sony and MS. Sales charts tend to agree.
Sounds like a Yankees fan talking about Cliff Lee. He didn't want to be on our team, so he would have never been a true Yankee.
It could be many things, such as poor tools, or an aspect of the design being over-engineered.
Regardless, I would be highly surprised if the ps4 and 720 were any easier to develop for.
MS isn't going to show the next Xbox 18 months in advanced.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I don't think that's fair at all.
Wii U is an unproven new platform. From a business perspective, it would be a huge gamble to throw a large amount of money at an ambitious project for the console, especially if it wouldn't be easy to port that game to other platforms.
None of them are terrible excuses if you're just looking at it from a business perspective. It's like Nintendo goes out of their way to make it difficult to port games designed for their platforms to other platforms. Honestly, that's probably fine from their perspective. More exclusive titles.
From a 3rd party publisher's perspective, it's not very attractive. If you want to design a game for a Nintendo platform, it will be difficult to port elsewhere, and you'll be competing with 1st party Nintendo games.
Unregistered007
Banned
pretty stupid statement.
The reason shit was ported to ps3 was because PS3 was selling more in other regions than North America.
Haunted
Member
Next generation in 2013 still makes me tremendously sad. Fuck you MS/Sony.
Fuck you MS/Sony.All signs point to having a repeat of last generation with third parties and Nintendo.
Apple console believe.
Hahaha. Keep telling yourself that at night. A console with minimal third party releases is something only Nintendo fans could be proud of.
What does this have anything to do with growing up?
DragonSworne
Banned
They compete with Nintendo games even if they release their games on other systems...
It's not like I split my gaming money between consoles...
It's called the iphone and ipad.
It's probably "complex" in the same way it would be complex to port a 360/PS3 game to the Vita, as opposed to like... the base product actually being complex to develop for.
Do you really want me to post a list of the studios that closed this gen?
lostinblue
Banned
Microsoft will still have the edge for low tier devs with stuff like XNA.
Although Sony has that engine of theirs to counter the costs of doing a project for the ground up for their platforms if you're a small dev, but most devs never worked on it because it's not meant for cross platforming (duh).
I'll wait and see, a partnership with AMD doesn't mean they'll have a x86 CPU this time around does it? emulating a CELL CPU would be hard they might stay on that architecture a while longer IMO.
Boss Man
Member
I wonder what "complexities" they are talking about. Are they already developing stuff for the WiiU or are they just a bunch of those biased devs who aren't planning on develping for the WiiU in the first place?
I wonder if they are intimidated by the creative requirements they have to deal with when develpoing something "NEW" for the WiiU.
Also, who are those devs excactly? I really like to know if they are or were involved in any PS3 development, because that was actually a really hard console to develop for (yet, a shit-ton of games came out for the system).
Anyway, other devs say it's really easy to work with the system.
Btw, IGN SUCKS BALLS!
I wonder if they are intimidated by the creative requirements they have to deal with when develpoing something "NEW" for the WiiU.
Also, who are those devs excactly? I really like to know if they are or were involved in any PS3 development, because that was actually a really hard console to develop for (yet, a shit-ton of games came out for the system).
Anyway, other devs say it's really easy to work with the system.
Btw, IGN SUCKS BALLS!
Who said anyone would be proud of it?, I think any Nintendo fan would like more 3rd party support because it would render the need to purchase an additional console obsolete.
DragonSworne
Banned
I'm sure that developing for the Wii would have saved all of them
Yoda
Member
I wonder what the unannounced platform is? As they reference "PS4/X720" it would seem to be another product entirely. Perhaps Microsoft wants in on the mobile gaming market? lol... In all seriousness maybe those valve box rumors were holding more water than we originally thought.
Chances are the Wii U "complexity" is a result of its touchscreen controller being mandatory to include in all third-party games developed for it.
Chances are the Wii U "complexity" is a result of its touchscreen controller being mandatory to include in all third-party games developed for it.
SuperSonic1305
Member
You need to imput your friend code to turn on the dev kit everytime.
In what sense?
I mean that from the reverse direction to note, not like PS3/360 -> Wii U.
Didn't Wii also lack an online presence that many third party developers profited off of.
fly high ~ayunite~
Member
Too complex? Isn't the Wii U just a Wii with a new gpu, cpu and optional screen output?
Well, developers aren't businessmen, and even the people who are have been abysmal at predicting where the industry will be to this point.
Criminal Upper
Banned
If that's true, this is the worst industry ever.
Ah. In that case I can't say for sure, but it really shouldn't be a problem.
Apple console with PowerVR GPU Dreamcast 2 is coming!
Exterminieren
Banned
One of the very first developer comments about the WiiU was from Vigil saying precisely how easy the porting process was.
I dunno. Something doesn't match up.