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Plus since we're getting confirmation that what MSNerd said is true, then we'd have to believe that the set-top box is Loop and coming out in 2013 due to that timeline list he/she gave. Ten however was nowhere to be found on that list that covers a decent amount of time so it's time is pretty open to interpretation. But there's been enough smoke to indicate 2012, plus they'll want to get the console out before PS4.
The rumor is this morning's Eurogamer article (about Kinect 2.0) is that "Loop" was a loop you wore around your arm and was MS' one time solution to the Wiimote and Move. It was abandoned for Kinect. So I'm not sure anything of what you said should be regarded as confirmed.
I agree with everything except I would flip the release dates.
Set-Top - 2013
Xbox3 - 2012
Confirmation? We've gotten purely rumors and many of them don't even match up with each other.
This actually sounds pretty reasonable.
Am I safe in assuming the "Xbox 3" is purported to have all the functionality of the set top box? (And more, of course.)
My only issue with this would be the majority of the services offered are USA centric.
I've accepted this for the most part (it is generally not Microsoft's fault) but how can they possibly expect to sell a device that revolves around these services as it's main focus outside the US?
I read that, but that doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't reapply the name elsewhere since it's only a codename.
Plus MSNerd's rumor came out well before all this so the latter rumors are confirming what MSNerd already said.
Charlequin and I have been discussing a possibility based on recent Xbox rumor that we felt could use its own focused thread.
Essentially, the concept/speculation is that Microsoft is planning to release two separate, completely different Xbox branded products next generation, each of which are roughly as detailed below.
Companies aren't going to just move code names around to different projects, think about how silly that sounds.
It is not uncommon for Microsoft to reuse codenames a few years after a previous usage has been abandoned.
Companies aren't going to just move code names around to different projects, think about how silly that sounds.
I completely agree. They absolutely have to redouble their international efforts. This is a rare opportunity to be the first to have the best voice recognition software across multiple languages. Their past efforts won't cut it if they want to sweet-talk hardware manufacturers.My only issue with this would be the majority of the services offered are USA centric.
I've accepted this for the most part (it is generally not Microsoft's fault) but how can they possibly expect to sell a device that revolves around these services as it's main focus outside the US?
I would think they'd pick the same basic architecture for both possible consoles...
A seperate ARM and IBM architecture doesn't make sense to me...
Both similar architectures with one being more capable than the other does...
[Nintex];33031761 said:It's likely that these were seperate projects up untill 2009 or so when MS brought everything together at Microsoft Studios. The ARM chip is basically 'Windows 8 on a chip' but it's not enough to power a nextgen console.
I completely agree. They absolutely have to redouble their international efforts. This is a rare opportunity to be the first to have the best voice recognition software across multiple languages. Their past efforts won't cut it if they want to sweet-talk hardware manufacturers.
A high spec, high price console... aimed toward core gamers?
Not enough of them for it to work. Unless they are fine with keeping their current userbase at best?
Jeez you expect it to only sell in the 14-21 million unit range?[Nintex];33032066 said:The first one is a sure bet for all that COD/HALO money. The second one is a gamble. Kinect hasn't shown it's full potential yet on Xbox 360 and there's more to it for sure(the Kinect celebration ad is pretty much what MS wants it to be) but there's a long way to go and it's risky.
Is there a codename on that list they reused besides Nashville?
Cancelled upgrade for Windows 95; sometimes referred to in the press as Windows 96. Codename was reused for Internet Explorer 4.0 which incorporated many of the technologies planned for Nashville.
I've been using the new dashboard for a week or two, and believe me it is. If what you want is already selected, then sure, pressing a button is quicker. But most of the time it isn't. Say you want to access system preferences, with a controller you have to scroll through 7 pages to get to settings, press along once to get to preferences and then hit 'A'. With voice you just have to say 3 words, "Xbox Settings, Preferences". Once you start using voice for 90% of dashboard selections, you realise just how much quicker and easier it is. Add search into the equation and you have something vastly improved. Why scroll along to the apps page, open Netflix and search for a movie when you can just say "Xbox Bing Minority Report", "Play Minority Report".Voice commands maybe, but it still isn't as fast as pushing a button.
I've been using the new dashboard for a week or two, and believe me it is. If what you want is already selected, then sure, pressing a button is quicker. But most of the time it isn't. Say you want to access system preferences, with a controller you have to scroll through 7 pages to get to settings, press along once to get to preferences and then hit 'A'. With voice you just have to say 3 words, "Xbox Settings, Preferences". Once you start using voice for 90% of dashboard selections, you realise just how much quicker and easier it is. Add search into the equation and you have something vastly improved. Why scroll along to the apps page, open Netflix and search for a movie when you can just say "Xbox Bing Minority Report", "Play Minority Report".
then 2 years later update the gimped sku with better specs then 2 years after that update the hardcore sku with better specs... then 2 years after that update the gimped sku again then 2 years after that update the hardcore sky again.... and so on
This comes largely from piecing the rumors together, but basically the idea is that the system is primarily focused on home entertainment and small-ish casual games that use Kinect, and thus can be designed so they are small, manageable downloads.I think I'm missing something with your speculation Nirolak. If the Xbox Loop is a kinect machine, but does not have an optical drive, how exactly would that work? Surely it can't be a digital service box.
Unless I'm behind the times and optical drive has totally changed meaning, or I've totally missed something in your post. .