Zombie James
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Japan release day sales 2/8: Virtua Bomba 5
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Smiles and Cries
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you are not worthy of the Midna avatar
oldie-newbie
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frAntic_Frog said:sony bailed on the PSP? really? why is there a new Ratchet PSP game? or a rumored God of war PSP game? or the upcoming Loco Roco 2? or GT Mobile? or the next SOCOM PSP game? Killzone PSP? cmon...sony isnt nintendo's gamecube or MS's Xbox where they cut and run and leave the 15+million fanbase leaving a piece of unsupported crap with a 2 year long drought
Probably the best joke of the day :lol
trancejeremy
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frAntic_Frog said:sony bailed on the PSP? really? why is there a new Ratchet PSP game? or a rumored God of war PSP game? or the upcoming Loco Roco 2? or GT Mobile? or the next SOCOM PSP game? Killzone PSP? cmon...sony isnt nintendo's gamecube or MS's Xbox where they cut and run and leave the 15+million fanbase leaving a piece of unsupported crap with a 2 year long drought
I wouldn't say Sony has bailed on it, but they clearly don't put much effort into it. I mean, they rather put out a motorcycle game on the PS2 than have Polyphony work on GT Mobile. They rather have David Jaffe do a PSN download game than a PSP title. Most of their titles are farmed out to lower tier developers and end up being mediocre. There are probably 5-6 really nice ones, but that seems to be almost in spite of Sony's efforts, not because of it.
Sony of Japan has apparently put a little more effort, like having Level 5 do Jeanne d'Arc. But too bad no one outside of Japan will apparently ever see it.
oldie-newbie
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Parl said:
Do you mean real gamers versus Blu-Ray (video) buyers ?
Zombie James
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gutter_trash
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-Sales Age threads suck
-Japanese VFers play VF5 at arcades against human beings not at home all alone
-Xbots stirring the pot are being hypocrites because they will buy VF5 in September anyway
-Japanese VFers play VF5 at arcades against human beings not at home all alone
-Xbots stirring the pot are being hypocrites because they will buy VF5 in September anyway
For me to make a guess as to how many gamers in Japan own a PS3, I'd divide the amount of PS3 games sold by 3. Is that a good guess? Maybe not, but it's the best I can be bothered to come up with at the moment.
There's been about 1 game sold per PS3 so far. I can't image that if somebody was going to pay so much Yen for a PS3, and buy one why the software library is so limited, isn't dedicated enough to buy more than 1 game, or even maybe 2 for many of them.
So dividing 612,000 by 3, we get 204,000.
I'll be back on here when I'm a bit more sober and a bit less tired to see how screwed my logic and thinking is.
There's been about 1 game sold per PS3 so far. I can't image that if somebody was going to pay so much Yen for a PS3, and buy one why the software library is so limited, isn't dedicated enough to buy more than 1 game, or even maybe 2 for many of them.
So dividing 612,000 by 3, we get 204,000.
I'll be back on here when I'm a bit more sober and a bit less tired to see how screwed my logic and thinking is.
Zombie James
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suckerpunch
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thefro said:
quoted for great justice.....After reading this quote, i've stop reading this thread.
Do people have a much broarder definition of "gamer" than me? Possibly inspired by a rebellion to the term "non-game", which most prefer to call "games", which has caused all "non-gamers" to be called "gamers", and thus Nintendo has achieved their mission. Or maybe not...
So how much software has been sold for PS3 in Japan thus far?
So how much software has been sold for PS3 in Japan thus far?
DeaconKnowledge
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suckerpunch said:
And yet magically continue to write in it. I'm amazed!
suckerpunch
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to be fair, sony created the non-buyers..... you know, the people that buy ps3's to sell it
Joe Molotov
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Math is easy when you just make stuff up!
suckerpunch
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DeaconKnowledge said:
don't be, i'm magical remember. Be amazed
WrathOfOtaibah
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We can't expect much from this kind of userbase.
Not everyone who owns a PS3 is going to use it or buy new games with it. Some might be sitting inside some closets. Some of them might have been just bought for a game or a BR disc and then waiting for a game that is not called Virtua Fighter 5.
The numbers are not good but neither are the PS3's. Virtua Fighter hasn't been a huge system seller since Virtua Fighter 3tb for the Dreamcast, and some might even argue that. This reminded me of the Game Cube days where people kept telling each other how this or that game will sell and turn the ship around. Yet it never did. For a system as pricy as PS3, people are not going to buy a system due to one game.
I could see Virtua Fighter 5 being a title that slowly picks up a few hundred to a couple thousand units a week over the course of a year or two and wind up selling 500,000 copies overall.
Not everyone who owns a PS3 is going to use it or buy new games with it. Some might be sitting inside some closets. Some of them might have been just bought for a game or a BR disc and then waiting for a game that is not called Virtua Fighter 5.
The numbers are not good but neither are the PS3's. Virtua Fighter hasn't been a huge system seller since Virtua Fighter 3tb for the Dreamcast, and some might even argue that. This reminded me of the Game Cube days where people kept telling each other how this or that game will sell and turn the ship around. Yet it never did. For a system as pricy as PS3, people are not going to buy a system due to one game.
I could see Virtua Fighter 5 being a title that slowly picks up a few hundred to a couple thousand units a week over the course of a year or two and wind up selling 500,000 copies overall.
gutter_trash
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VFers in Japan have no money to buy PS3s because they are constantly plunking down tokens into arcade cabinets. Of corse VF players are broke.
seriously, this thread is full of crap. everyone is an analyst from crapsville
seriously, this thread is full of crap. everyone is an analyst from crapsville
Funny, I really don't see a "fact" there, per se. Now, the truth of the matter is that we will have no idea what kind of an impact games like DMC4, MGS4 and FFXIII will have, as it is entirely dependant on what Nintendo can offer the market. If what Nintendo can offer in its game lineup is in enough volume and has a high enough quality, a bunch of high-profile games actually might not be enough. GameCube and Xbox had a lot of high-profile titles, as well, but it certainly wasn't enough to overtake PS2 due to the volume and overall quality of the PS2 game library.miguel_c_hammer said:
There's no magic market panacea or Holy Grail of sales recovery, folks. If Sony wants out of this sales slump, THEY have to get it done, not some magical 3rd-party title that may go multiplatform or even possibly disappear entirely.
AlphaSnake
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raYne said:
Stealth trolling.
He's saying there's 200k PS3 owners out there who are gamers. As in, the other 400k aren't because they don't even have a game for their system. I guess he's trying to say that total PS3 software sold is 200k, so how could all 600k people be enjoying their consoles.
Or some shit like that.
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Vilix
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gutter_trash said:
Yes they will. And you know why? Because it will have online capability. Somthing that Sega should've put in the PS3 version.
Zombie James
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Vilix said:
:lol
marvelharvey
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Well, his profile says he lives in the UK, which puts his post at around 3.48am his time. Maybe a combination of sleep deprivation, mixed with alcohol, lead to his conclusion?AlphaSnake said:
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
I don't like Virtual Fighter games because it made me feel like I should actually take karate lessons than spend time trying to master Virtual Fighter. Then I thought, I am 24 and what sort of person my age trains to be a karate master? Then I decided to play some Dragon Ball for the Wii instead.
Battersea Power Station
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All the Sony bashing is getting silly, but to compare the PS3 with the PS2 is to insult the PS2 and ignore its amazing achievements.karasu said:
This is bull. Most fighting games are released in arcades months before the home version is released and some of the games still sold well on console. SC2 sold well even though the arcade version was out for months. Face it, the fighting game genre isn't as popular as it used to be. Casual gamers don't seem to care for most fighters anymore. What happened to SF2 seems to happening with Tekken, VF, and DOA.KTallguy said:
Zombie James
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Battersea Power Station said:
"Dreamcast games look better, and it's half the price!"
Pureauthor
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Hunter D said:
Fighting games = American comics.
They listened to the hardcore. And look where it got them.
frAntic_Frog
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give the PS3 some time, good sirBattersea Power Station said:
even the PS2 had humble/criticized beginnings, which some said had the worst console launch lineup in 2000....now look where its at
Rahxephon91
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You aren't. Traded in my Lite in for a PSP and I enjoy my PSP a lot more.EverSoTrendy said:
Did anyone expect a fighting game to really make a big impact?
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Hunter D said:
Didn't DOA4 and Tekken: DR sell exceptionally well worldwide? I know DOA4 hit a million and I'm sure combined with the PSN and the PSP and the soon-to-release Tekken: DR on PSN for the U.S., the combined total is/will be over a million.
Hunter D said:
No, the situation in Japan is how I stated it.
VF never moved a ton of units in Japan in the past. It was never a system seller. People are playing a ton of VF and Tekken DR, if you look at rankings from Arcadia magazine.
The arcade is much more suited to the commuter lifestyle in Japan, were you can stop by an arcade on the way home from work and then take the train home. Plus, you can easily find comp in the arcade. Only the hardcore of the hardcore really practice a ton at home.
VF5 is a great game, but it's been accessible to everyone for a long time in the arcade, it's nothing new there.
marvelharvey said:
Sleep deprivation and a bit of alcohol led me to not realise that people didn't understand I was refering specifically about gamers. I probably thought is was clear, I mean, using the word "gamers" and all. Should've become even more clear with the way I was talking about it after. However, some people were on the ball, I see.
I'm saying that I'd say each person who bought a PS3 for playing games, maybe wouldn't just own one game. I thought that if they're willing to fork out that much, they must be dedicated enough gamers to pay a bit more (relatively) to enjoy the console with 2, 3 or 4 games.
My guess, and I admit it's a guess, is that the average PS3 gamer in Japan owns three games. From what I can tell there's about 600,000 games sold for PS3 in Japan, too. Similar to that of hardware units sold. That leads me to figure, based on my guesswork, that few of those 612,000 MC tracked PS3 owners are actually gamers.
VF5 selling to one out of every 6 or 7 gamers in Japan on first day? I say it sounds reasonable.
I made this point originally to suggest that maybe there's less gamers with a PS3 than Xbox 360 as an explanation of its first day sales when compared to that vollyball game on X360. And to me, that seems likely.