Quit the tone policing nonsense. This is what your posts basically amount to. It's been posted before but it bears repeating - we've seen this stance before.
I haven't seen that image before. Looks pretty accurate.
Quit the tone policing nonsense. This is what your posts basically amount to. It's been posted before but it bears repeating - we've seen this stance before.
I guess what I should say is that I want him to suffer severe material consequences before anything else. If he wants to change his mind after, that's fine.
Let me guess. You're probably NOT a member of minority that is getting abused in today's America, both through words and actions.Best to ignore the political or religious leanings of people who's work you enjoy. As long as it doesn't influence the actual content they produce its best to ignore...
When the US rightwing is so far right, is the "moderate" still moderate?In order to be more true to reality, the final panel should be an unaffected moderate/neutral person saying that dumb shit, because that's honestly the worst I've seen after fascism and racism have now become mainstream.
What if you were a black fan and found out the person thinks you're inferior because you're black
and went "yep.".
When the US rightwing is so far right, is the "moderate" still moderate?
Oh, I agree with that, your previous comments didnt really make that clear.
The worst part about TB's gizmodo bit is that he says these people should be educating or telling Jon why hes wrong rather than condemning him for it.
Did he not see Destiny try and do that with no success? Its what happens when you get redpilled constantly.
Or because people will forget it by next week because other shit will happen on the internetz....he won't suffer any consequences at all. He'll just jump ship to a new fanbase of Nazis and carry on like nothing happened because there's money in that.
Let me guess. You're probably NOT a member of minority that is getting abused in today's America, both through words and actions.
The worst part about TB's gizmodo bit is that he says these people should be educating or telling Jon why hes wrong rather than condemning him for it.
Did he not see Destiny try and do that with no success? Its what happens when you get redpilled constantly.
This is literally the point of all rational debate. To prove your ideas over others. Persuasive arguments.
Edited: I retract from my comments, lost track of my line of argument and poor choice of words made me sound pretty supportive
The worst part about TB's gizmodo bit is that he says these people should be educating or telling Jon why hes wrong rather than condemning him for it.
Did he not see Destiny try and do that with no success? Its what happens when you get redpilled constantly.
Best to ignore the political or religious leanings of people who's work you enjoy. As long as it doesn't influence the actual content they produce its best to ignore...
I don't like to play police or make people change their opinions, if you want to unsub do it, but do not try to make people think the same way you do, because that's just plain wrong.
You can try to discuss it, but throwing shit and name-calling is straight-up harassment.
If you don't like someone's opinion, just ignore him/her, simple.
Keep it civil guys.
Best to ignore the political or religious leanings of people who's work you enjoy. As long as it doesn't influence the actual content they produce its best to ignore...
When the US rightwing is so far right, is the "moderate" still moderate?
And Jon's response: "That's not true, this is how it is, it's a fact. Look it up. *Sources nothing or an alt-right trash site*
Really? I entered the discussion here with THIS.
Or because people will forget it by next week because other shit will happen on the internetz.
Again, I retracted from that comment.
Are you phrasing this as a negative, or a positive?
I'm asking because even though you claimed you misspoke earlier, and that it was a language barrier thing, this response continues to sound like it's saying the original statements by Jontron aren't really a big deal.
Arin's laughter there - in retrospect - seems so uncomfortable and nervous, rather than finding what he said funny.
i'd rather not do anything that puts money in the pocket of people with scumbag beliefs and ethics, thanks.
First of all, this got a healthy chuckle. More to the point though, I never understood how not tolerating intolerance makes you intolerant, or, "See? You're no better than we are. Hypocrites!"
Best to ignore the political or religious leanings of people who's work you enjoy. As long as it doesn't influence the actual content they produce its best to ignore...
Within my first Writings and Humanities college course we were instructed that citation is not needed for well known facts.
TB shouting that the article need sources does not make any sense because the claims made are well known and are counters to JonTron's outrageous claims.
"You speak pretty my friend, but darkies are inferior and Beyoncé is out here committing more crime than meth addicts"
Sounds like someone really interested in doing the right thing to me
Within my first Writings and Humanities college course we were instructed that citation is not needed for well known facts.
TB shouting that the article need sources does not make any sense because the claims made are well known and are counters to JonTron's outrageous claims.
Man that TB audio log... wew. Of course he says that Gizmodo
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- is part of the dying liberal media outlets and is just lashing out at YouTube
There's always a concerted effort by bigots and those who profit off of bigotry to co-opt the language of freedom fighters regardless of context and thus try to discredit progressive ideals from within, so "we should be tolerant of people different from us" came to include racists into the fold.
The oversight with this is that bigots thought tolerance was an overarching moral code that could not be breached, versus a contract that advocates peace against those who do not perform or advocate harm of which beach of the contract means self-defense comes into play.
As more and more of these shitheads get cornered, embarrassed, dropped by their sponsors, hammered in their subscriptions, fired from their jobs, ostracized from their social circles, and suckerpunched on the street as people come to see them as the threat they really are, they'll eventually learn to back the fuck off and change tactics. Maybe one day they'll be able to argue their fuckery on their own merits without equivalence and deflection.
Been out of the loop for a while on this. What did TB say that everyone seems to be talking about him? OP has nothing and came back 3 or 4 pages but couldn't find anything.
Been out of the loop for a while on this. What did TB say that everyone seems to be talking about him? OP has nothing and came back 3 or 4 pages but couldn't find anything.
Exactly.
Why is an Iranian/Hungarian descendant spouting this nonsense?
Who knows? But than again, I'm done trying to understand these "alt-right/neo-nazi/xenophobe"-type people...
Says that can't shittalk partners. Didn't realize JonTron was a business partner ? Also that there were clause preventing from obvious call outs against racist tirades. Jim Sterling isn't spineless on the issue. In any case, doesn't really give an actual context for this, but we are to believe him. Fair enough ?
Been out of the loop for a while on this. What did TB say that everyone seems to be talking about him? OP has nothing and came back 3 or 4 pages but couldn't find anything.
Let me guess. You're probably NOT a member of minority that is getting abused in today's America, both through words and actions.
I think he's fully aware of what he is and whom he is in bed with. He's just not comfortable with brandishing Nazi symbols in public like Richard Spencer was.Well, that's the point, the "moderates" really aren't. People like Jontron think they are moderates.
Well I'm not a white male if that's what you're asking.
I'm not an American.
Japanese people get barely any representation on TV, and I don't really feel very abused as a girl (but I'm not getting into feminism again).
I'm a fan of a few musicians and artists who have unsavoury pasts or beliefs. Actors who are known for womanising, drinking and driving, heinous crimes, it doesn't stop me from watching their movies/listening to their music.
I'm not saying it wouldn't affect my perception of them if I didn't know (eg. when I found out Kelsy Grammar was an alcoholic, sexist hardcore christian and republican) but you have to look past it and just enjoy the content (as long as the content is free from their political crap)
Wait he has Iranian ancestry? Does he think he would've survived Nazi Germany? He's just a convenient fool for the alt-right.