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Konami has issued a statement saying MGS Collection will be 1080p60 on consoles.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
At least it's 60, R* where you at?
PPIMystaceus
Member
Game journos don't spread misinfo for outrage clicks challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
Anyway, 1080p is fine for MGS2 and 3 anyway. 2160p is overkill for PS2 games frankly, the difference in visual is minor. Smaller than the difference between 720p and 1080p, I would argue.
Anyway, 1080p is fine for MGS2 and 3 anyway. 2160p is overkill for PS2 games frankly, the difference in visual is minor. Smaller than the difference between 720p and 1080p, I would argue.
Destruction-1002
Member
Red Dead 2 on PS4 is 30fps
Many 7th gen ports to PS4 ran at 30fps
Besides the game on PS3 and X360 drops to 20fps
You be completely fine when games in 7th gen couldn't even hold 30fps on PS3/Xbox 360
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
R* could have made the new port 60 if they wanted to. They can easily release a patch for RDR2 as well. But why bother when you can milk with new versions down the road.
Drizzlehell
Banned
At least it won't be a downgrade compared to the HD Collection from 2012. But still, it shows a supremely lazy attitude that they didn't try to make it run in 4k on consoles that are 2 generations ahead of what was done before. Not to mention that these games are over 20 fucking years old. Pathetic.
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deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
*2022*
- Konami shows three Silent Hill games and a new movie based on the second game
- rumors about Metal Gear surface
- Castlevania stuff
- is Konami back?!
*early 2023*
- MGS 3 remake and a collection are announced
*later 2023*
- no news about Silent Hill
- MGS Collection runs at 1080p on PS5 and Series X
- Konami shows three Silent Hill games and a new movie based on the second game
- rumors about Metal Gear surface
- Castlevania stuff
- is Konami back?!
*early 2023*
- MGS 3 remake and a collection are announced
*later 2023*
- no news about Silent Hill
- MGS Collection runs at 1080p on PS5 and Series X
Skifi28
Member
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. There's still plenty of time to be disappointed.
FearlessBelgian
Member
So the PC version is going to be locked at 1080p too ? WTF is that shit...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Trashgrab
Mr.Phoenix
Member
I hope this finally puts to bed what the difference between a remaster and a remake is.
Konami... just hell bent on pissing their IPs away.
Konami... just hell bent on pissing their IPs away.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Oof.Folks on Steam are playing at 1080p
Well as they don't have PC powerful enough to ran games at 1440p 60fps with high settings
PC Master Race in my mind:
In reality:
FearlessBelgian
Member
Imagine playing in 1080p in 2K23Folks on Steam are playing at 1080p
Well as they don't have PC powerful enough to ran games at 1440p 60fps with high settings
1440p bare minimum, 4K master race (with DLSS 4K is very accessible.)
Yeah, locked.
And with some mind blowing post processing effects that apparently can not be reproduced, because whoever's left at Konami are fucking monkeys.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why? If the Switch can render it at 1080p, why is the PS5 and XSX rendering it at the same resolution?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Lack of technical prowess left over there, nor will they spend the resources on it since they know gamers buy up trashgrabs based on IP name alone.
MiguelItUp
Member
Pretty wild that they're not even bothering to do 4K. It is definitely possible across all hardware sans Switch I'm sure. At least hopefully PC will mod it in, but we'll see.
This really makes me want to wait on purchasing it though.
This really makes me want to wait on purchasing it though.
Lucifers Beard
Member
It is long in the tooth. That being said, it is more powerful than both the 360 and PS3 which ran these games at 60fps. Fuck, even the ps2 ran them at 60fps (at least MGS2 did anyway). Absolutely no excuse from Konami here, this is gonna be a lazy fucking port.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Apparently people have just started to OC the memory on the Switch to get better frames. Just got done watching MVG do a video about the Red Dead on Switch.
poodaddy
Member
Never fear, PC is never truly locked. Mods will save it. Hell, probably won't even need the mods, might be able to just alter some lines in an .ini doc, but yeah it's ridiculous that this will probably be required.
Destruction-1002
Member
144hz is what matter, a 4K 144hz monitor is too expensive, it cost $499.99 on Micro centerImagine playing in 1080p in 2K23
1440p bare minimum, 4K master race (with DLSS 4K is very accessible.)
While a 1080p 165hz monitor cost $119.99
mrcroket
Member
These games aren't 360/PS3 but PS2 games, and on PS2 MGS2 run at 60 fps.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
You might actually be right.
Rendering at 4k may bring out some stuff we're not ment to see it such clarity.
I remember Blue Point said in God of War HD Collection they had to redo a area because the original had a flat static background showing a hall that wasn't noticeable in the original but when it was upgraded to HD you could tell it was just a bitmap image.
Aaron Olive
Member
There is no excuse for anyone here that played these when they first came out or HD remastered to buy this shit now.
Since the average demographic of Neogaf is 30-35 I know most of you’ve already played MGS. Stop being pussy ATM’s for these shitty Companies and stand up!
Since the average demographic of Neogaf is 30-35 I know most of you’ve already played MGS. Stop being pussy ATM’s for these shitty Companies and stand up!
Imtjnotu
Member
Luigi Mario
Member
Yes, MGS2 was already running at a locked 60fps on PS2 and Xbox, whereas MGS3 was only 30fps with frequent dips into the 20s on PS2.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I imagine Konami leading the charge asking Sony for a PS5 Pro to deliver the collection at 4K@60
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dotnotbot
Member
It's not, they're using HD collection versions
EDMIX
Member
Agreed.
Plus, of course many might be still using 1080p on Steam, they are also fucking putting out shit like this collection that literally continues to support it running at that shit resolution lol More might run in 4K, if MORE GAMES like these remaster factored 4K.
This collection is a waste and Konami can't even be fucking trusted with a remaster lol
Apocryphon
Member
I have put off replaying MGS for forever. I wanted to get it for my Vita but you need a PS3 to transfer it for some stupid reason, and the PC port wasn’t great. This will probably the the best way to play it so I’m in for that I think.
Its not about visuals. Its about a lack of aliasing giving it a pre rendered look.
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Destruction-1002
Member
When devs get too ambitious, that what happen
As PS2 games that ran at 60fps weren't ambitious like Metal Gear Solid 3, Shadow of the Colossus, Red Faction
PS3/Xbox 360 games at sub-HD couldn't even ran at 30fps
darrylgorn
Member
I'm fine with this but kinda surprised there isn't more of a meltdown here lol
VulcanRaven
Member
Zone of the Enders 2 is 4K on PS4 Pro so there is no reason why this can't be.
They have the updated textures from the old HD Collection.
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proandrad
Member
Both consoles have enough vram so that shouldn’t cause any performance issues. Fuck it, game should have a 8k60fps quality mode and 4k120fps performance mode if they want to charge $60 for PS2 games.
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