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Maxis is, yet again, removing basic features from new Sims 4
- Thread starter EatinOlives
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Neglectful Parent Expansion Pack. 39.99
I really hope its not as broken.
Each Sims series really follows the same remove stuff release same expansion pack philosophy, you would think at this point I'd learn my lesson.
No developer chooses to be this awful. Look at what happened to DICE, Visceral, Westwood and Maxis, what is the one thing they share(d)?
EatinOlives
Member
Sims 2 tried to diversify things quite a bit. I mean yes it had a pet-themed, vacation-themed, and downtown-themed expansion pack that were thematically the same as Unleashed, Vacation, and Hot Date expansions from Sims 1, but the Sims 2 takes on the expansions were vastly different and, for the most part, added features in a different way or focused on different features.
Sims 3 is when the recycling really got out of hand. It recycled tons of ideas and themes from Sims 1 and 2, didn't even bother re-naming the Pets and Seasons expansion names.
I guess what I'm saying is, the idea recycling was a bit iffy in Sims 2. It was full on blatant and shameless in Sims 3. In Sims 4 it'll probably get even worse.
You can't be serious. EA has shown where their priorities lie for literally decades now.
I've really been looking forward to the Sims 4 up until the bad news broke, and now I'm not sure if I will be buying it when it comes out.
Create-A-Style being missing I've been OK with, especially if it was for performance reasons. I don't know about anyone else but loading up CAS and then going into Create-A-Style seemed to take forever with or without mods... As much as I loved having the option to make each piece of clothing or object look unique, I'm not too sad about it being gone.
Not having toddlers and pools though? Pools have been a part of the base game since The Sims and toddlers since the Sims 2. I think most people at least expect some of the base game features to make it into the game. I hope that if these do come later, it's through a free update like some of the Sims 3 expansion features but seeing this in the survey from EA awhile ago doesn't give me a lot of hope:
I thought it was suspicious a base game feature was being shown as an option for a DLC Pack/Stuff Pack/Expansion but I hoped it was just some kind of stuff pack with additional themed objects. Looking at this and some of the other options in that survey makes worried about what else isn't in the base game.
Create-A-Style being missing I've been OK with, especially if it was for performance reasons. I don't know about anyone else but loading up CAS and then going into Create-A-Style seemed to take forever with or without mods... As much as I loved having the option to make each piece of clothing or object look unique, I'm not too sad about it being gone.
Not having toddlers and pools though? Pools have been a part of the base game since The Sims and toddlers since the Sims 2. I think most people at least expect some of the base game features to make it into the game. I hope that if these do come later, it's through a free update like some of the Sims 3 expansion features but seeing this in the survey from EA awhile ago doesn't give me a lot of hope:
I thought it was suspicious a base game feature was being shown as an option for a DLC Pack/Stuff Pack/Expansion but I hoped it was just some kind of stuff pack with additional themed objects. Looking at this and some of the other options in that survey makes worried about what else isn't in the base game.
exmachina64
Banned
EA screwing people over again. All is right with the world.
this picture has never been relevant and the new one is even less relevant than this one is.
As someone who has had very little contact with The Sims outside of a few hours messing around with my sister's copy of the very first game, a question comes to mind. Considering the expansive mods and expansions available for the past three games, is there any reason to move on to this one? I compare it so something like Call of Duty, which at the very least has a suite of new maps and a few weapons in it every year. What new furniture or buildings could they possibly be adding after 14 years that makes a new game release appealing, especially when you take this kind of behavior under consideration. It kind of sounds like a Windows 8 proposition to me.
LMAO thats even better!!!
Yeah that's why I am happy seeing a lot of Sims fans become more vocal about this because when they pulled this on sims 3 people barely complained.
I've played Sims since the first one on my crappy family HP desktop and after Sims 3 and this I see no reason to continue with the serious. I mean look at what they're advertising for the game. their hook is that you can play Play-Doh with a Sims features, thats their MAIN hook. Why would any Sims fan be excited about The Sims 4?
Big Baybee
Member
Man, fuck off with this shit. So disappointing.
Coffee Dog
Banned
So if I were to buy Sims 2 with all the dlc, would i really be missing anything significant that these new ones have added? Because it constantly just seems like they've been removing and reintroducing features to this series.
walkmetothelake
Banned
Was thinking about getting back into the series again with this title. It's not looking very likely now though.
Maybe I'll just get one of the others with all of the expansion packs. It shouldn't be too expensive for the older ones by now.
Maybe I'll just get one of the others with all of the expansion packs. It shouldn't be too expensive for the older ones by now.
It was also announced that the game will not have a 64bit client and will be limited to 4GB of RAM for the foreseeable future... Disappointing to say the least, considering the game will be around 5+ years...
http://simsvip.com/2014/06/26/the-sims-4-utilizes-a-32-bit-executable/
No 64bit client even though 80%+ of Steam users have support for 64bit....
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
http://simsvip.com/2014/06/26/the-sims-4-utilizes-a-32-bit-executable/
No 64bit client even though 80%+ of Steam users have support for 64bit....
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
Garrett Hawke
Member
By pools do they mean swimming pools?
Because like... what
Because like... what
Is this for real?
Has EA let Maxis go outside in the last decade? They do know it's 2014, right?
It was also announced that the game will not have a 64bit client and will be limited to 4GB of RAM for the foreseeable future... Disappointing to say the least, considering the game will be around 5+ years...
http://simsvip.com/2014/06/26/the-sims-4-utilizes-a-32-bit-executable/
No 64bit client even though 80%+ of Steam users have support for 64bit....
are you kidding me!?!?
OrlanisWorks
Banned
4GB RAM limit, no pools on initial release...
Nope...
Nope...
LurkerPrime
Member
Bingo!
I forgot to say before that this is a very disappointing move; it really seemed like Maxis was coming into a new era of creativity with those last few Sims 3 DLCs.
exmachina64
Banned
Are you really surprised after SimCity?
From Twitter:
Graham Nardone · @SimGuruGraham
@crinrict I asked about this recently. We won't have a 64 bit exe; it's fairly uncommon for games. Our lead ENG explained to me why Sims 4 wouldn't particularly benefit from it and it sounded quite reasonable, but I'm not comfortable enough discussing tech to try and repeat his explanation.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ndumm2
Graham Nardone · @SimGuruGraham
@crinrict I asked about this recently. We won't have a 64 bit exe; it's fairly uncommon for games. Our lead ENG explained to me why Sims 4 wouldn't particularly benefit from it and it sounded quite reasonable, but I'm not comfortable enough discussing tech to try and repeat his explanation.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ndumm2
Garrett Hawke
Member
The only good news I can read from the 4GB RAM thing is that it'll at least be well optimised. The Sims 3 is AWFUL in that regard.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Yeah I just wanted to make the distinction. Do you think the pre-EA Maxis would pull this kind of shit? Highly doubt it.
yea, well chalk this up as another franchise Maxis killed for me.
R10Neymarfan
Member
It was also announced that the game will not have a 64bit client and will be limited to 4GB of RAM for the foreseeable future... Disappointing to say the least, considering the game will be around 5+ years...
http://simsvip.com/2014/06/26/the-sims-4-utilizes-a-32-bit-executable/
No 64bit client even though 80%+ of Steam users have support for 64bit....
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
Paging Duarte. 64bit fix
Crimsonclaw111
Member
This is all kinds of fucked up. I imagine this would've launched with always online on top of the shit pile had SimCity gone over well.
It was also announced that the game will not have a 64bit client and will be limited to 4GB of RAM for the foreseeable future... Disappointing to say the least, considering the game will be around 5+ years...
http://simsvip.com/2014/06/26/the-sims-4-utilizes-a-32-bit-executable/
No 64bit client even though 80%+ of Steam users have support for 64bit....
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
I cannot believe this, How goddamn incompetent are those people?!
I find the Gamestop and Bestbuy parts kinda funny, while annoying sure, they in no way take up more than like 1% of the game usually if even that. Retail stuff is always just early unlock, skin, vehicle, or weapon and maybe sometimes a short level that has no story relevance.
mysteriousmage09
Member
It was also announced that the game will not have a 64bit client and will be limited to 4GB of RAM for the foreseeable future... Disappointing to say the least, considering the game will be around 5+ years...
http://simsvip.com/2014/06/26/the-sims-4-utilizes-a-32-bit-executable/
No 64bit client even though 80%+ of Steam users have support for 64bit....
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
What!? Even fucking WoW has a god damn 64 bit client ffs. Sims has sunk so low as to swimming pools not being in the base game now? I have to admit I was excited for starting fresh with a new Sims game but EA and Maxis can fuck right off.
LurkerPrime
Member
ERROR R10: USER NOT FOUND
thecouncil
Banned
what's changed?
ArchersOfAgincourt
Neo Member
They've got the market cornered on this kind of life sim game, so it's kind of a shame that they can pull this kind of shit and know they'll still make a profit. The base game alone is fun enough and the new build tools and create-a-sim tools look pretty innovative -- for me personally, I don't think I care enough about toddlers or pools for this to be a huge issue, but it certainly is indicative of a worrying trend.