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Media Create Sales 12/17 - 12/23 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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D.Lo
Member
'Other' figures remind me of something.JoshuaJSlone said:
Nintendo sales are just so different to Sony and Microsofts because they only sell videogames and built their international company on that. With the Famicom/NES, Nintendo didn't just have to establish a brand, they had to build a company from the ground up in most countries. Unlike Sony and MS who already had vast resources, offices in every country, and complete retail distribution networks, Nintendo had nothing. It actually took them their first three generations to get full branch offices in all major countries instead of sub-contracting other companies with existing distribution networks. Nintendo was distributed by Mattel in Australia until halfway through the SNES lifespan, for example, and still does not have an office in New Zealand even today.
The DS and Wii are the first unqualified successes Nintendo has had since finally being a true international company. That alone pretty much guarantees the Wii will be their most successful home console ever.
BishopLamont
Banned
We don't make up things in this thread.Raist said:
norinrad21
Banned
Raist said:
4.9 million PS3s in Spain alone last month?
test_account
XP-39C²
*Guaraná said:
Nope, but maybe some numbers tomorrow.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9154415&postcount=1086
It doesn't... but it's worth noting SEGA's direct response to Game Boy had "Kids" in it's branding. Pico's not the only games platform aimed at children... handhelds pre-DS/PSP were largely for kids as well.test_account said:
And? PS2 wasn't aimed at the same demographic GB was either, I guess that also invalidates any comparison there?test_account said:
I understand what you're saying perfectly, I think we all do. Diversionary comparions aside, I don't think calling the PS3 "the biggest failure in gaming" is at all off base looking at where things sit today, where they look headed, and the dramatic scale of things. Sure, there's been platforms that sold worse or were dropped quicker, but not any platform in a similar position. PS3's going to be lucky if it cracks 30m lifetime the way things are going, which in itself may be a pretty respectable figure, but when you consider the positioning, support and branding this machine had... that's a pretty epic drop, far more dramatic than an experimental 3D "portable", kids edutainment toy or various MegaDrive hardware add-ons. making those sorts of flimsy comparisons doesn't put PS3 in a better light, it more reveals the massive scale of it's decline and the desperation of it's proponents.test_account said:
Moor-Angol
Banned
Famitsu data for the week ending on december 23 (so i'm really in topic!!!)
2007/12/17 - 12/23
01. (DS / S-E) Final Fantasy IV - 308.794 / 308.794
02. (DS / Nintendo) Mario Party 8 - 307.901 / 1.070.481
03. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Fit - 210.406 / 737.475
04. (Wii / Nintendo) Super Mario Galaxy - 109.029 / 680.165
05. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Sports - 108.629 / 2.370.673
06. (DS / S-E) Dragon Quest IV - 108.352 / 962.776
07. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Play - 104.635 / 1.918.814
08. (Wii / Nintendo) Mario & Sonic at Olympic Games - 100.433 / 307.198
09. (DS / BandaiNamco) Doraemon Baseball: Dramatic Stadium - 96.454 / 96.454
10. (PS2 / BandaiNamco) Naruto Shuuppuden: Narutimate Accel 2 - 94.330 / 94.330
11. (DS / Pokemon) Pokemon Mistery Dungeon Darkness/Time - 83.454 / 1.218.261
12. (DS / Level 5) Prof. Layton and the Devil's Box - 68.289 / 550.454
13. (Wii / Nintendo) Mario Party 8 - 60.320 / 1.007.899
14. (DS / Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 53.158 / 2.660.373
15. (DS / Nintendo) Kousoku Card Battle: Card Hero - 49.163 / 49.163
16. (DS / Capcom) Mega Man Star Force 2: Berserk x Shinobi/Dinosaur - 47.056 / 203.285
17. (DS / Konami) Power Pro Pocket 10 - 46.891 / 128.832
18. (PS2 / Alchemist) Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri - 42.385 / 42.385
19. (PS2 / Konami) Winning Eleven 2008 - 39.041 / 518.742
20. (PS2 / Konami) Power Pro Baseball 14 Ketteiban - 37.480 / 37.480
Mario Party 8 and DS became million sellers in the same week, DQIV non game status is around the corner, WE 2008 (PS2) is over half million, not bad at all.
No PSP (as usual) and no PS3 games on top20, Sony should be worried... (ok, ok, PSP is considered as a multimedia device more than a game system for japanese people bla bla bla bla....)
2007/12/17 - 12/23
01. (DS / S-E) Final Fantasy IV - 308.794 / 308.794
02. (DS / Nintendo) Mario Party 8 - 307.901 / 1.070.481
03. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Fit - 210.406 / 737.475
04. (Wii / Nintendo) Super Mario Galaxy - 109.029 / 680.165
05. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Sports - 108.629 / 2.370.673
06. (DS / S-E) Dragon Quest IV - 108.352 / 962.776
07. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Play - 104.635 / 1.918.814
08. (Wii / Nintendo) Mario & Sonic at Olympic Games - 100.433 / 307.198
09. (DS / BandaiNamco) Doraemon Baseball: Dramatic Stadium - 96.454 / 96.454
10. (PS2 / BandaiNamco) Naruto Shuuppuden: Narutimate Accel 2 - 94.330 / 94.330
11. (DS / Pokemon) Pokemon Mistery Dungeon Darkness/Time - 83.454 / 1.218.261
12. (DS / Level 5) Prof. Layton and the Devil's Box - 68.289 / 550.454
13. (Wii / Nintendo) Mario Party 8 - 60.320 / 1.007.899
14. (DS / Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 53.158 / 2.660.373
15. (DS / Nintendo) Kousoku Card Battle: Card Hero - 49.163 / 49.163
16. (DS / Capcom) Mega Man Star Force 2: Berserk x Shinobi/Dinosaur - 47.056 / 203.285
17. (DS / Konami) Power Pro Pocket 10 - 46.891 / 128.832
18. (PS2 / Alchemist) Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri - 42.385 / 42.385
19. (PS2 / Konami) Winning Eleven 2008 - 39.041 / 518.742
20. (PS2 / Konami) Power Pro Baseball 14 Ketteiban - 37.480 / 37.480
Mario Party 8 and DS became million sellers in the same week, DQIV non game status is around the corner, WE 2008 (PS2) is over half million, not bad at all.
No PSP (as usual) and no PS3 games on top20, Sony should be worried... (ok, ok, PSP is considered as a multimedia device more than a game system for japanese people bla bla bla bla....)
perfectchaos007
Member
I think its the biggest failure in gaming when looking at what it was forecasted to do. Most systems that failed were never expected to do much anyway. Dreamcast, 3DO, Jaguar. The PS3 was the next generation of playstation. Playstation 2 I believe sold more systems than any other console to date. ( unless NES beat it ) Anyhow it was by far the most sold console of last gen. and for PS3 to not only be in last place, but WAY WAY in last place for worldwide sales is just about the biggest disapointment you can get. Sure other consolse like the 3DO sold less in their lifetime, but they weren't coming off their best selling console of all time.
Edit: I think I basically said what has already been said. sorry
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
PS3 is a far cry from being the worst failure in history. N64 was worse off imo, and that wasn't even that bad...
everything is just ballooned because games are of higher quality now. things happen faster.
everything is just ballooned because games are of higher quality now. things happen faster.
perfectchaos007
Member
I think its about time for a December NPD prediction thread *wink wink*
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
what happened to this week's thread/why are we still bumping this one? holidays?
Overall, N64 really only saw a dramatic decline from SFC in one core region... comparably, PS3's stumbling about everywhere compared to PS2. N64 still moved ~65% of what it's predecessor managed, PS3's going to lucky hit half that figure. Again, the drop from PS2 to PS3 in terms of Nintendo's mainline platforms would be like going directly from Famciom/NES to Gamecube in one cycle.davepoobond said:
perfectchaos007
Member
Nutter said:The Dec NPD month is not even officially over.
I see....said the blind man
No, I meant half of 65%. Realistically, it'd take a miracle for PS3 to move 50% of what PS2 managed... it's not even possible at this point really.reilo said:
Honestly, PS3 is probably going to sell somewhere between what GC and N64 moved, unless there's some huge shifts coming...
Son.Ralph.Funk
Member
Why aren't this week's numbers out yet?
sechsterangriff
Member
Sorry i'm going offtopic but does anyone know where i can get really old Media Create or Famitsu numbers? I'm looking for the Dreamcast launch week.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Innotech said:
i was talking in the general sense. as time goes on it is simple to see that games are getting more and more impressive technically as a whole. its all about technology, and it costs money.
of course if you pick and choose shitty games to prove some sort of unrelated point...you're going to win that battle.
jett said:
not Jet Force Gemini. NINTENDO AM CRYYYY
or Pokemon Snap
or Hey You Pikachu
HK-47 said:
probably not. who knows though, did anyone ever think PSP would be selling as much as it is now? Its increasing YOY.
jarrod said:
perhaps PS3 is more akin to PS1 than the PS2? start out slow, end big. we know N64 and Gamecube weren't like that.
Actually RARE am cry, considering they made and self-published JFG. :loldavepoobond said:
Pokemon Snap was a huge seller too, moving nearly 4m units... in fact it's outsold every PS3 game so far released, outselling Motorstorm and Resistance combined even at this point. Actually, even Hey you Pikachu has outdone any lone PS3 game (selling almost 2m iirc).
They did back in 2004. Hell, people thought this machine was going to be the Nintendo-killer.davepoobond said:
Yeah, that'd fall under the "miracle" thing I mentioned earlier. :loldavepoobond said:
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
jarrod said:Actually RARE am cry, considering they made and self-published JFG. :lol
Pokemon Snap was a huge seller too, moving nearly 4m units... in fact it's outsold every PS3 game so far released, outselling Motorstorm and Resistance combined even at this point. Actually, even Hey you Pikachu has outdone any lone PS3 game (selling almost 2m iirc).
while we're talking about comparability, maybe you should be comparing those releases to SNES games instead.
omg rite said:
yes.
hahahaha @ picture
Son.Ralph.Funk
Member
How was the N64 a huge failure? It sold about 17 million less than the SNES. The PS3 will probably sell at least 50 million less than the PS2, and probably much more.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Son.Ralph.Funk said:
failure is not and should not be measured by how much a decrease there is in install base from one console to the next. Just because it doesn't do as well as the one before it it doesn't make it a failure.
it has to be compared to the other consoles in its generation, as well as the "losers" of the last generation.
if the PS3 ends up getting an install base that is XBOX+GC but its still less than Wii and 360...what does that make it?
well the wii already has the #2 highest ranked videogame ever in Super Mario Galaxy. Id say thats pretty good quality.antiloop said:Depends if you are in it for the statistics or the quality of the games. All consoles so far have had great games. At least the ones I have owned.
They are all winners.
test_account
XP-39C²
This comparison started with that you saying that GBA was more like the Pokémon Mini. I then said that Pokémon Mini was a system that was aimed at one specific group while VB (or GBA for that matter) wasnt in the same way. You also said it was "muddy" to call Pico a kids system, but every Pico game (atleast in the US) got a EC (early childhood) rating. But anyway, if you agree or not agree to what i say is up to you.jarrod said:
Since you call my comparisons diversionary it shows that you didnt understand what i ment. I never tried to divert any of my points. All i did was to reply to your posts. I stand for everything i said in this discussion.jarrod said:
I already said that i think PS3 can be the biggest failure when it comes to money losses and that there are different factors to choose from when you're going to label something a failure. Biggest failure in money loss, biggest failure in supporting the system, biggest failure drop in market share etc. etc. This was also not an attempt to put the PS3 in a better light, but i still think other systems are a bigger failure than the PS3.
Its a pity that you dont understand what i ment since i would like for you to understand what my points are of course, but as said, unfortunately i dont think i can reformulate my points better than i have already done. I guess we'll have to end this discussion with agreeing to disagree.
test_account
XP-39C²
Wii-za said:
If PS3 should sell 10 million worldwide, N64 would defintily be a bigger success compared to PS3, no doubt about that. PS3 is already upto 6-7 (?) million consoles sold worldwide within its first year so the chances for it to only sell 10 million is astronomical small