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Media Create Sales 12/3 - 12/9 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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Great sales! Nice to see those games selling so well and being such strong Wii system sellers. Nintendo needs to get more Wii Fits out there, they've been pretty good about it so far, but it looks like they've still underestimated demand.Elios83 said:Top 10:
Mario Party DS (DS) : about 160k (total about 763k)
Wii Fit (Wii) : about 120k (total about 527k)
GT5 Prologue (PS3) : about 108k
DQ4 (DS) : about 78k (total about 854k)
Professor Layton and Pandora's Box (DS) : about 73k (total about 482k)
Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) : about 71k (total about 571k)
Wii Sports (Wii) : about 68k (total about 2.26m)
Wii Play (Wii) : about 67k (total about 1.81m)
Mario & Sonic at Beijing Olympics (Wii) : about 58k (total about 207k)
Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon (Wii) : about 44k
The bombs:
Kirarin Revolution (DS) : about 21k
NiGHTS (Wii) : about 17k
Kingdom Under Fire (360) : about 15k
Ōkiku Furikabutte （DS) : about 9.3k
We Love Golf! (Wii) : about 8.6k
Soul Calibur Legends (Wii) : about 6.9k
Shikigami no Shiro 3 (360) : about 3.1k
Shikigami no Shiro 3 (Wii) : about 970
Hardware:
Wii : 168k
DSL : 249k
PS3 : 53k
PS2 : 21k
PSP : 158k
360 : 8.7k
PSP is selling amazingly well! The red version and time of year have helped, still, it's become a big success.
PS3 sales are low, especially for the time of year and the release of GT5P. The game has sold better than I thought from the initial numbers but I expected more hardware to be sold.
Lots of bombs this week, which, unfortunately, isn't surprising...
king zell said:
So the latter is correct?Sindou_Hikaru20 said:
Saying that, it doesn't matter really, both are poor. I wonder if LO has had better luck, I doubt it. Some JRPGs are really tanking! I think Layton is the way to go to bring more people in, in the sense of bringing something new to the genre.
That's really low! With the time of year and the new colour it should've managed more even on a system with as low sw sales as PSP.Sindou_Hikaru20 said:
Pureauthor
Member
Nice DS sales. Disappointing Tales sales, though.
Wii... well, 1st party and M&SatO are doing well. Nice legs on Galaxy.
108K for GT5rologue? That's... not good, is it?
Wii... well, 1st party and M&SatO are doing well. Nice legs on Galaxy.
108K for GT5
rologue? That's... not good, is it?DeaconKnowledge
Member
Menaged said:
No offence, but why does this question still come up? Didn't Sony themselves say they were making a profit on PSP hardware like 8 months into the system's life?
Like i said in another MC thread, last year DS sales were totally dependent on supply, this is the first time we have no shortages, so we may see the highest week ever in the holidays...starship said:
What a bad position.. Now Nintendo can't divert systems to NA anymore...ziran said:
Pristine_Condition
Member
Interesting.
If that 53,000 number for PS3 holds up in the official Media Create numbers, that would mean PS3 has sold approx. as many (if not more) PS3s in the last 6 weeks as they managed to sell in the previous 20 weeks.
And if there's another week like that next week, it'll make that differential much greater, since looking backwards past that point, you get into those really miserable weeks when PS3 was only selling in the embarrassingly bad 8-9K range.
Good acceleration there.
If that 53,000 number for PS3 holds up in the official Media Create numbers, that would mean PS3 has sold approx. as many (if not more) PS3s in the last 6 weeks as they managed to sell in the previous 20 weeks.
And if there's another week like that next week, it'll make that differential much greater, since looking backwards past that point, you get into those really miserable weeks when PS3 was only selling in the embarrassingly bad 8-9K range.
Good acceleration there.
Souldriver
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GALAXY!!!
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Layton
Wii love Golf
No More Heros
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PSP
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Layton
Wii love Golf
No More Heros
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DeaconKnowledge
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Menaged said:Beacuse I've probarly missed that, that's why :\
But now I know
It wasn't directly at you, just a musing in general.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Pureauthor said:108K for GT5
Versus GT4p? No. 50% of GT4p.
But it's good for Sony's expectations which were 200k life for GT5p at retailers (+50k life for GT5p on PSN).
Seems like a lot of people were just waiting for Wii Fit. Those Wii numbers are ginormous.
Good start for GT5: Prologue. By nature of its genre and the series history, it should have good legs. I wonder if Sony will advertise that the online mode goes up on December 25th.
Good start for GT5: Prologue. By nature of its genre and the series history, it should have good legs. I wonder if Sony will advertise that the online mode goes up on December 25th.
There was a quote from Reggie at Reuters which suggested NA, and presumably the rest of the world, are likely to see delays with key Wii titles, like Wii Fit, because of the difficulties Nintendo is having in keeping up with demand:felipeko said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN1744069920071218?sp=true
From a business view there's no point in introducing something which will likely increase demand for a product you currently can't supply enough of. I think Wii production will be upped early next year and Nintendo is likely to have ~25 million for their next fiscal.
I'd forgotten it was that close. PS3 is going to continue to struggle to lose its GC-esque image imo.starship said:
Really, Sony's ineptness this year has been staggering, especially in Japan. The price, then having Madden as their big Golden Week game
lol) and now having a demo of a game as the big holiday title! It's just madness!! Funny, but in an incredibly sad way...plagiarize
Banned
whatever it was, it's an exceedingly cheap game for them to make. they don't need to worry about sales of GT5P. it's basically just free money.womfalcs3 said:
DeaconKnowledge
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But it's also a barometer of what the retail game will sell.plagiarize said:
GT5P was available on the PSN right? So why is 108k at retail so bad for a game that was available to you without having to go anywhere? Download numbers could have been great for all we know. I don't really understand GAF sometimes, sure the 53k PS3 hardware seems bad but considering the system used to do 8k a week not to long ago its a huge improvement. Of course its not going to beat the Wii but was it really suppose too?
charlequin
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Re: this week's disappointments: too bad for Golf, not really unexpected for NMH, lollers @ SC:L...
...poor Lost Odyssey It really sucks that Sakaguchi's pretty well demonstrated ability to make some awesome games isn't going to be remotely rewarded with, well.... sales.
Etrian Odyssey did well enough for Atlus to greenlight a sequel and consider it a "hot" new IP. >_>
Apparently the answer is: they can't! :lol
I was talking to ducky about this earlier. It's definitely way worse on the Tales end; Tales sells much less to begin with, and Namco's done a worse job of delineating "real games" vs. "spinoffs." At the same time -- I think FFTA2's sales represent the start of brand fatigue. (I don't think it's just people who were turned off by FFTA1....)
In terms of milking their franchises to the point of ruin, Namco is like the girl who everyone looks down on who gets pregnant in 9th grade -- everyone else is like "oh, that was Namco; it can't happen to me!" but that doesn't mean that they can't wind up in the same situation if they aren't careful....
Oh, the irony.
...poor Lost Odyssey
It really sucks that Sakaguchi's pretty well demonstrated ability to make some awesome games isn't going to be remotely rewarded with, well.... sales. duckroll said:
Etrian Odyssey did well enough for Atlus to greenlight a sequel and consider it a "hot" new IP. >_>
cvxfreak said:
Apparently the answer is: they can't! :lol
I was talking to ducky about this earlier. It's definitely way worse on the Tales end; Tales sells much less to begin with, and Namco's done a worse job of delineating "real games" vs. "spinoffs." At the same time -- I think FFTA2's sales represent the start of brand fatigue. (I don't think it's just people who were turned off by FFTA1....)
In terms of milking their franchises to the point of ruin, Namco is like the girl who everyone looks down on who gets pregnant in 9th grade -- everyone else is like "oh, that was Namco; it can't happen to me!" but that doesn't mean that they can't wind up in the same situation if they aren't careful....
HK-47 said:
Oh, the irony.
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Vilix
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What was Grand Turismo 3's first week sales? I believe that would be a better comparison.
OutlawAdidas
Banned
screw japan.
No more heroes is like amazing
No more heroes is like amazing
Pureauthor
Member
charlequin said:
Capcom has always churned out huge numbers of sequels, but they have also never stopped producing new, awesome IPs. That's why they can consistently stay on top of things even without a singlular 'l.ynchpin franchise' to pin their hopes on like SE or Konami.
womfalcs3
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DeaconKnowledge said:
The game is a long ways away. The install base will grow, the price of the hardware will go down, and there will be more hype for the final game. I don't think it's a measure of how it'll do...
I've been reading a lot of comments on Japanese websites, and many are complaining about the fact it's expensive for a prologue. I'm a GT fan, and I'll get GT5, but I agree with them. I'm not going to pay 45 dollars on a prologue.
JudgeN said:
Warhawk did 9k at PSN Japan (according to Sinobi: http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10058787379.html)
Of course we cannot compare Warhawk to GT which is much popular in Japan. But it shows that PSN download is not that big in Japan. SCEJ expects 50k from PSN download for GT5P (while 250k from retail). If they get the ratio correct, that was 20k first week.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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king zell said:
Holy wow to Wii, Super Mario Galaxy, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Play and Mario & Sonic. Not bad for Chocobo Dungeon and not bad for GT5P.
Holy shit to Wii's hardware sales.
sp0rsk said:
So, the million is not impossible now. That's sure a great news.
Sindou_Hikaru20 said:
Disappointment for Minna no Golf 2. It seems that Mario Party 9 will be the firt to breat the million. And holy shit for New Super Mario Bros. almost at FIVE millions !!!
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Vilix
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Defuser said:
But is there a traditional final version? I mean, I believe the only way to get the final version of the game is to download everysingle car, racetrack, etc., when it comes out, yes?
BishopLamont
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3 mario and 3 Wii branded games in the top ten. Nintendo is a beast this holiday.
I knew Galaxy would perform strongly through the holidays. Next week and the first week of January should be even better. I hope all the gun jumpers learned a lesson!
Very impressive legs for Mario and Sonic as well. The demand for Wii Fit is still impossible to gauge since it keeps selling out.
Next week and the first week of January should be even better. I hope all the gun jumpers learned a lesson!Very impressive legs for Mario and Sonic as well. The demand for Wii Fit is still impossible to gauge since it keeps selling out.
Pureauthor said:Nice DS sales. Disappointing Tales sales, though.
Wii... well, 1st party and M&SatO are doing well. Nice legs on Galaxy.
108K for GT5
No. It bombed. Sony had estimated 300k for its first week. (Half of the last GTP).... Of course nobody will care, we only care when Nintendo games bomb.
papelnabangka
Member
Just imagine Mario's legs in the states, his strongest region. With Halo 3 basically falling off the map at 4M(USA), it could possibly beat Master Chief especially since it's on a more popular console. Remember, even Sunshine did 3M++ in the USA.
It's ability to hook other people through word of mouth will determine how much leg this game has and if any game could do it, SMG is that game.
It's ability to hook other people through word of mouth will determine how much leg this game has and if any game could do it, SMG is that game.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
womfalcs3 said:
It could be first week, but that would be a Namco-level shitty estimation.
Grecco said:
The last GTP did 200k first week not 600k, and Sony's estimate was 250k including 50k PSN downloads, and that estimate was not "first week", as far as I know it was lifetime--and if it was first week, I'm not sure why Sony would estimate that a PS3 title would do MORE than the PS2 equivalent despite the failure of every other PS3 title so far to do so.
Magicpaint
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Wow, nice to see SMG selling well (even though MP DS is STILL selling a lot better. :/)
As for ToI, just wow. I honestly don't know what Namco should do at this point... perhaps stick to the PS2? Or maybe PSP. I just don't think the DS is the ideal platform anymore.
Minna no Golf 2 sales are very disappointing. :/
Good to see DQ, both Layton games and MK DS selling well though!
As for ToI, just wow. I honestly don't know what Namco should do at this point... perhaps stick to the PS2? Or maybe PSP. I just don't think the DS is the ideal platform anymore.
Minna no Golf 2 sales are very disappointing. :/
Good to see DQ, both Layton games and MK DS selling well though!
Mr. Pointy
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I'm bummed on that too. I'm guessing lack of marketing.Dascu said: