Media Create Sales: Week 2, 2015 (Jan 05 - Jan 11)

small44

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Oh, what little success they did manage was due mainly to 3rd party games no doubt. Emphasis though on little.

Lacking 3rd party games definitely hurt Wii U, but it's not a silver bullet to victory. There's really no guarantee a bunch of ports will push PS4 past a million this year. It had plenty of ports last year too, even in many of the big franchises (MGS, FF, Yakuza, WE, Musou, etc). I think PS4 getting past a million might depend on if FFXV makes December or not.
I don see port i see cross-gen games and Sony will bundle big games with ps4 so they would boost ps4 even if they are also on ps4.
It's not new that Nintendo first party are bigger system sellers then Sony first party
 

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Maybe we'll have a strong Golden Week this year after a long time (and a stronger H1 for 3DS sw).
Seriously, H1 line-up of 3DS titles seems solid; especially from Ninty.

Don't know how I feel about Pokemon Candy Crush; they should of just expanded on the TCG front with in-app purchases and created a new game like Magic does.
 

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Give me any Sony first party that boost ps3 more then Final fantasy games or MGS4.
You are right. Playstation has always been centred around third party support especially nowadays in Japan.

Sony's first party has gotten stronger in the West and the PS4 will help that but in Japan their first party presences has only declined. We have yet to see SCEJ's turnaround (lots of rumours for now) :/
 
01./01. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Shin Uchi <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.12.13} (¥4.968) - 74.998 / 2.322.127 (-64%)
02./02. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.937) - 38.420 / 2.432.659 (-65%)
04./05. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.10.11} (¥6.264) - 21.453 / 2.412.467 (-53%)
So guys, can we expect Shin Uchi catching ORAS and MH4G in a couple of weeks?
 

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Looks like Mahjong.

Maaaybe it's a new Clubhouse Games/42 All-Time Classics thing?
Correct. It's called Yakuman Houou and is cross play/buy among Wii U and 3DS (similar to the new Mario vs. DK game). It can be played for free once per day or you can buy a 6 month ticket for 1000 yen. Pays for both platforms if they have the same NNID.
 

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Seriously, H1 line-up of 3DS titles seems solid; especially from Ninty.

Don't know how I feel about Pokemon Candy Crush; they should of just expanded on the TCG front with in-app purchases and created a new game like Magic does.
It's the same gameplay of Pokémon Link Battle, which was released last year on the eShop.
 

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You are right. Playstation has always been centred around third party support especially nowadays in Japan.

Sony's first party has gotten stronger in the West and the PS4 will help that but in Japan their first party presences has only declined. We have yet to see SCEJ's turnaround (lots of rumours for now) :/
Yes it's true that in West first party sony games are stronger but 3rd party games still the main factor of Playstation success no sony first party games can boost ps4 more then Fifa,Destiny,Call of duty games
 

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Correct. It's called Yakuman Houhou and is cross play/buy among Wii U and 3DS (similar to the new Mario vs. DK game). It can be played for free once per day or you can buy a 6 month ticket for 1000 yen. Pays for both platforms if they have the same NNID.
Nintendo is starting to get the cross-buy policy now, isn't it?
 
Seriously, H1 line-up of 3DS titles seems solid; especially from Ninty.

Don't know how I feel about Pokemon Candy Crush; they should of just expanded on the TCG front with in-app purchases and created a new game like Magic does.
It's the same gameplay of Pokémon Link Battle, which was released last year on the eShop.
Yeah, to be clear I was taking about the monetization approach, not the literal gameplay.
 

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PSV 2013 price cut effect was still apparent in 2014 and i don't see PSV having another price cut i see Sony focusing at profitability rather then sales.
Sequel and re-release won't boost vita since fans already have a psv ,did boobs games ever boost Vita?
Nope, it was the redesign effect that went into 2014. The price cut was on february 2013 in Japan.
 

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I don see port i see cross-gen games and Sony will bundle big games with ps4 so they would boost ps4 even if they are also on ps4.
It's not new that Nintendo first party are bigger system sellers then Sony first party
They'll help PS4 but by how much really? I just don't feel like it's a sure thing here with PS4, not based on the known 2015 line up (whoch is mostly available on more popular platforms).

And no one's saying anything about Nintendo 1st party being bigger drivers than Sony 1st party. That's so obvious it's not even worth mentioning. It's worth noting though that Nintendo 1st party drove more system sales than PS 3rd party last gen though, in less time too. Both with Wii/PS3 and the early goings of DS/PSP.
 

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So the major titles for Wii U 1H are Mario Party, Splatoon, and Xenoblade. About what I expected except I didn't think X would be out so soon

3DS will should be able to remain flat at least for the 1H, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was down.
 

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Yeah, to be clear I was taking about the monetization approach, not the literal gameplay.
Same.

Like I mentioned, I feel the Pokemon Company should of just expanded on the TCG front with in-app purchases and created a new game app (mobile, 3DS & Wii U) like Magic does.

Not their smartest decision.
 
Same.

Like I mentioned, I feel the Pokemon Company should of just expanded on the TCG front with in-app purchases and created a new game app (mobile, 3DS & Wii U) like Magic does.

Not their smartest decision.
I think they're looking at the profit that P&D and Candy Crush bring in and want some of that.

Not that Hearthstone and Magic aren't profitable, but they're not nearly as profitable.
 

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I think they're looking at the profit that P&D and Candy Crush bring in and want some of that.

Not that Hearthstone and Magic aren't profitable, but not nearly as profitable.
True, but their limiting their business ventures remaining on the 3DS front, should be expanded to mobile & Wii U.

Especially on the TCG front, their app is limited to mobile-only and just recently started in-app purchases; there is an audience for that as well on 3DS & Wii U.

It just seems reactionary more than anything, but hey I'm not in charge of TPC :p
 

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Can someone make a comparison between XB1 and XB
Code:
 Week 	      Xbox 		     Xbox 360 	            Xbox One 		
									
 01   	123.929 / 123.929   	 62.135 /  62.135   	 23.562 / 23.562   
 02   	 37.147 / 161.076   	 12.320 /  74.455   	  3.574 / 27.136   
 03   	 10.930 / 172.006   	 10.035 /  84.490   	  1.536 / 28.672   
 04   	  7.924 / 179.930   	 10.035 /  94.525   	  1.739 / 30.411   
 05   	  5.005 / 184.935   	  8.655 / 103.180   	  1.444 / 31.855   
 06   	  5.157 / 190.092   	  4.620 / 107.800   	    918 / 32.773   
 07   	  3.188 / 193.280   	  2.762 / 110.562   	    698 / 33.470   
 08   	  2.532 / 195.812   	  2.095 / 112.657    	  1.177 / 34.648   
 09   	  3.286 / 199.098   	  2.022 / 114.679   	  1.264 / 35.912   
 10   	  4.219 / 203.317   	  1.463 / 116.142   	    824 / 36.736   
 11   	  4.219 / 207.536   	  1.212 / 117.354   	  2.469 / 39.205   
 12   	  1.872 / 209.408   	  1.082 / 118.436   	  1.182 / 40.387   
 13   	    834 / 210.242   	  1.020 / 119.456   	  1.175 / 41.562   
 14   	  6.447 / 216.689   	  1.035 / 120.491   	    904 / 42.466   
 15   	  5.912 / 222.601   	  1.181 / 121.672   	    916 / 43.382   
 16   	  2.836 / 225.437   	  1.550 / 123.222   	  1.761 / 45.143   
 17   	  4.359 / 229.796   	  2.636 / 125.858   	    815 / 45.958   
 18   	  3.358 / 233.154   	  1.752 / 127.610   	    853 / 46.811   
 19   	  3.218 / 236.372   	  1.780 / 129.390   	    637 / 47.448   
 20   	  3.111 / 239.483   	  2.852 / 132.242
Number of weeks it took Xbox to drop below 637 units - 81 weeks.
Number of weeks it took Xbox 360 to drop below 637 units - 347 weeks.
 

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sörine;147399845 said:
They'll help PS4 but by how much really? I just don't feel like it's a sure thing here with PS4, not based on the known 2015 line up (whoch is mostly available on more popular platforms).

And no one's saying anything about Nintendo 1st party being bigger drivers than Sony 1st party. That's so obvious it's not even worth mentioning. It's worth noting though that Nintendo 1st party drove more system sales than PS 3rd party last gen though, in less time too. Both with Wii/PS3 and the early goings of DS/PSP.
People who have a ps3 they will buy those games on ps3 but people who want to upgrade they will buy a ps4 with those games not a ps3.
If Nintendo first party wasn't able to help wii u that much no way Sony first party will do big effect on Playstation console sales.
 

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I think they're looking at the profit that P&D and Candy Crush bring in and want some of that.

Not that Hearthstone and Magic aren't profitable, but they're not nearly as profitable.
True, but their limiting their business ventures remaining on the 3DS front, should be expanded to mobile & Wii U.

Especially on the TCG front, their app is limited to mobile-only and just recently started in-app purchases; there is an audience for that as well on 3DS & Wii U.

It just seems reactionary more than anything, but hey I'm not in charge of TPC :p
It seems pretty clear that Nintendo is just experimenting different business models; it already has some F2P titles, such as Steel Diver: Sub Wars, Rusty's Real Deal and that arcade sticker app for Japanese 3DS, and everyone has a different payment model.
 

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Code:
 Week 	      Xbox 		     Xbox 360 	            Xbox One 		
									
 01   	123.929 / 123.929   	 62.135 /  62.135   	 23.562 / 23.562   
 02   	 37.147 / 161.076   	 12.320 /  74.455   	  3.574 / 27.136   
 03   	 10.930 / 172.006   	 10.035 /  84.490   	  1.536 / 28.672   
 04   	  7.924 / 179.930   	 10.035 /  94.525   	  1.739 / 30.411   
 05   	  5.005 / 184.935   	  8.655 / 103.180   	  1.444 / 31.855   
 06   	  5.157 / 190.092   	  4.620 / 107.800   	    918 / 32.773   
 07   	  3.188 / 193.280   	  2.762 / 110.562   	    698 / 33.470   
 08   	  2.532 / 195.812   	  2.095 / 112.657    	  1.177 / 34.648   
 09   	  3.286 / 199.098   	  2.022 / 114.679   	  1.264 / 35.912   
 10   	  4.219 / 203.317   	  1.463 / 116.142   	    824 / 36.736   
 11   	  4.219 / 207.536   	  1.212 / 117.354   	  2.469 / 39.205   
 12   	  1.872 / 209.408   	  1.082 / 118.436   	  1.182 / 40.387   
 13   	    834 / 210.242   	  1.020 / 119.456   	  1.175 / 41.562   
 14   	  6.447 / 216.689   	  1.035 / 120.491   	    904 / 42.466   
 15   	  5.912 / 222.601   	  1.181 / 121.672   	    916 / 43.382   
 16   	  2.836 / 225.437   	  1.550 / 123.222   	  1.761 / 45.143   
 17   	  4.359 / 229.796   	  2.636 / 125.858   	    815 / 45.958   
 18   	  3.358 / 233.154   	  1.752 / 127.610   	    853 / 46.811   
 19   	  3.218 / 236.372   	  1.780 / 129.390   	    637 / 47.448   
 20   	  3.111 / 239.483   	  2.852 / 132.242
So it's not crazy to think that XB1 won't even reach XB life time sales
 
It seems pretty clear that Nintendo is just experimenting different business models; it already has some F2P titles, such as Steel Diver: Sub Wars, Rusty's Real Deal and that arcade sticker app for Japanese 3DS, and everyone has a different payment model.
From my cursory understanding this one seems like a more natural f2p model, which will probably work better for them.
 
Okay so IGN had the clearest description. It's a stamina bar as opposed to also buying power ups like Candy Crush like Polygon implied.

Iwata explained a few more details for Pokemon Shuffle. Similar to the recent RPGs games, some Pokemon will have Mega Evolutions that deal more damage. Hearts will limit the number of times a player can battle. Players must wait to regenerate hearts before they can battle again, use in-game items obtained through gameplay to replenish hearts, or purchase more hearts through the eShop.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/14/pokemon-shuffle-is-nintendos-next-free-to-play-game
 

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First part of 2014 was a better don't the second for Vita i think it's because the effect.
Give me some exemple of system sellers visual novels i know they sold better in psv but i really doubt any of them considerably boost Vita
I feel this year line up for psv is worse then 2013-2014 that's why i don't think it will reach one millions
Well, I think that the good examples of these visual novels would be Danganronpa or Steins; gate. I believe that at least Senran Kagura, Digimon and God Eater 2 burst + minor games will help to sell system and I hope that more games will be announced for this year. But perhaps I'm being little too optimistic, or maybe not.
 

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Well, I think that the good examples of these visual novels would be Danganronpa or Steins; gate. I believe that at least Senran Kagura, Digimon and God Eater 2 burst + minor games will help to sell system and I hope that more games will be announced for this year. But perhaps I'm being little too optimistic, or maybe not.
Danganronpa was launched with the slim psv and Steins; gate with the price cut i think so their is 0 proof that those games boost Vita,Digimon is not that big i don't think it will boost vita too as for God eater 2 brust it's an re-release majority of god eater fans has already a vita so only system sellers i see this year for Vita is the Saga games but will this 1 game be able to make vita selling over 1 million i doubt it
 

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god damn wii u. what a drop. I wonder if PS4 will stay above it on a consistent basis from now on.

When's the next time wii u hardware numbers will increase significantly? None of the upcoming games look like system sellers... I get the feeling everyone who wanted a wii u already bought one when Kart and/or Smash dropped.
 

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My theory that Nintendo is trying to incorporate mobile-elements in their handhelds along with offering solid titles, is definitely panning out. The new Candy Crush Pokemon is another show of it, where they'll offer titles akin to what drives mobile on their handhelds as an attempt to tempt that market.

I think its a good idea but I'd also think they need to make themselves more exposed on mobile to get said users on their hardware down the road.

When's the next time wii u hardware numbers will increase significantly? None of the upcoming games look like system sellers... I get the feeling everyone who wanted a wii u already bought one when Kart and/or Smash dropped.
Never. We're on slow boil mode now. Unless Splatoon does something or Kirby magically starts moving hardware.
 

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god damn wii u. what a drop. I wonder if PS4 will stay above it on a consistent basis from now on.

When's the next time wii u hardware numbers will increase significantly? None of the upcoming games look like system sellers... I get the feeling everyone who wanted a wii u already bought one when Kart and/or Smash dropped.
Afaik DQ10 ver.3 will be released some day. I doubt if that really helps though.
 

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god damn wii u. what a drop. I wonder if PS4 will stay above it on a consistent basis from now on.

When's the next time wii u hardware numbers will increase significantly? None of the upcoming games look like system sellers... I get the feeling everyone who wanted a wii u already bought one when Kart and/or Smash dropped.
For Japan there's literally nothing left to provide a Smash/Kart-like bump. Maybe if DQXI is multiplat, there's a chance it could hit Wii U and increase sales marginally.

In the west, I kind of expect Zelda to give the Wii U a decent bump (at least by Wii U standards.)

A pokemon console game, while obviously not a saviour by any means, could also see a reasonable bump in both Japan and the west.

On the plus side there seem to be a string of smaller releases this year for the U. Not expecting big numbers, and a definite fall from last year, but sub-3k will probably be avoided...maybe.
 

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Well, I think that the good examples of these visual novels would be Danganronpa or Steins; gate. I believe that at least Senran Kagura, Digimon and God Eater 2 burst + minor games will help to sell system and I hope that more games will be announced for this year. But perhaps I'm being little too optimistic, or maybe not.
As small44 has pointed out, those games won't move many systems because they mostly sell to the same audience that already has a Vita or intends to buy it anyway, and would amount to the "regular" weekly sales. None of the games already announced would contribute to any considerable bump.

However, it is still early to see a better picture of how the systems will perform on "normal" conditions. Even so, if the "normal" conditions aren't good for Vita, the only thing I can see that could shake things up considerably is a price drop.
 

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Poor PSNova, on the other GTAV seems to be selling well. Japan's influence might have diminished last-gen but at least we've seen a number of Western titles sell.
 

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god damn wii u. what a drop. I wonder if PS4 will stay above it on a consistent basis from now on.

When's the next time wii u hardware numbers will increase significantly? None of the upcoming games look like system sellers... I get the feeling everyone who wanted a wii u already bought one when Kart and/or Smash dropped.
the PS4 will be above it from now on. That's pretty much expected. Early debates were by how much and how fast it would pass.

Mario maker and MP10 are the games with the best potential to cause a bump.
It won't be much though.

What the Wii u would need are not bumps, but enough interest to stay above 6-7k for the year.
 

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I think the thing about Nintendo's F2P experiments is that they acclimating 3DS owners to the F2P concept and in this case in particular the go to model for mobile games. This could be a good vote of confidence for mobile developers.

It's Nintendo effectively saying: "We're not only okay with that business model, we are actively supporting it!".
 

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I think it's safe to assume that Microsoft is simply going to discontinue it altogether... if retailers don't drop it before.

We all knew it was gonna bomb, but that's one of the most spectacular bomb in a while.
Never did understand why so many retailers allocate so much space to Xbox systems given their dismal sales over there.
I could only surmise that it is a requirement for being able to carry other popular Microsoft products

In any other country there would be a layer of dust on the Xbox area and it would have been shut in a dark corner somewhere in the store if it was a requirement to keep it, but the Japanese are meticulous.

Yokai mania is just crazy there, it almost seems like every primary school kid is into it
 

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Never did understand why so many retailers allocate so much space to Xbox systems given their dismal sales over there.
I could only surmise that it is a requirement for being able to carry other popular Microsoft products

In any other country there would be a layer of dust on the Xbox area and it would have been shut in a dark corner somewhere in the store if it was a requirement to keep it, but the Japanese are meticulous.

Yokai mania is just crazy there, it almost seems like every primary school kid is into it
I have a feeling Microsoft paid for the space, and it probably wasn't cheap.
 

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So any thoughts on the release schedule for the 3DS/Wii U in JP now?

Wii U:
1/22 - Kirby Rainbow Curse
1/22 - Lego Marvel Superheroes
3/5 - Mario vs. Donkey Kong - Tipping Stars
3/12 - Mario Party 10
4/2 - Rodea Sky Soldier
4/2 - Lego Batman 3
4/29 - Xenoblade X
4/30 - Dragon Quest X v3
May - Splatoon

(That's what we know now right)?
Plus digitally we have Mario v. DK - 3/19 and
Yakuman Houou - 2/18

3DS new stuff
Fire Emblem If - Summer
Girls Mode 3 (forgot the date)
Rhythm Heaven - 2015
and I think some titles like Etrian Mystery Dungeon (?) & Hatsune Miku (5/26) got a release date.