Visualante2
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Imagine what the Vita can do when they drop the price..
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Media Create Sales: Week 41, 2013 (Oct 07 - Oct 13)
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But they already dropped the price. Because we could say the same for everything: imagine what the Xbone can do if they sell it for $150. Imagine what the Wii U can do if they sell it for $75. Imagine what Blackberry can do if they give out phones and contracts for free.
If they could afford to drop the price at this point, they'd have introduced the Vita 2000 at a lower price-point.
''needs to''
Moor-Angol
Banned
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
It's not exactly that simple. They could very well afford to drop the price on the 2000 model but choose not to because the sales they expect to gain don't match the revenue they would lose by doing so. Its the same reason you aren't seeing price drops right now on the PS3 or the 360, somebody looks at a spreadsheet and comes to the conclusion that dropping the price isn't going to lead to enough increased sales to justify doing so.
The Vita 2000 feels to me like its trying to break that image the Vita has by intentionally making the system feel cheaper and more accessible. The new colors, the smaller form factor, the ridiculously large bezel, abandoning the proprietary USB cord, the larger buttons and even going from OLED to LCD make the system feel less like a higher end electronic device and more fun and mainstream - akin to something like Apple and the 5c.
Not sure if its going to work out but the revision was really well designed.
Sammy Samusu
Member
There weren't shortages last week, and it doesn't seem like there will be shortages this week. I wouldn't expect an increase in sales.
About as well designed as the Yinlips.
Not understanding the connection.
Magicpaint
Member
Wasn't there a 99.6% sell through the week before?
It was, but it got a new shipment. The current reported sell-through is 96%, so about 100k units in the wild.
But it's possible that the new shipment arrived at the end of the reporting period, I guess. So, before saying that it isn't supply constrained anymore, we might should wait until next week's numbers.
The Vita 2000 looks like a Chinese knock-off. Literally.
Still not seeing the point you're trying to get across.
It has a cartridge slot in its disk tray?
As people have pointed out, there are positive aspects to the redesign. It's hard to tell right now how much they actually matter to consumers, but they're there nonetheless. The memory is the biggest deal.
Gonna have to disagree with that.
Immaculate
Banned
I kinda see it
Darkside: "the revision was really well designed."
Me: "It looks like a Chinese knock-off."
strangedopamine
Member
About as well designed as the Yinlips.
Does that play classics such as Submarine Invasion and Chantecleer Hedgemony?
The Vita 2000 looks pretty nice actually, I love the colour selection which should be something all tech has instead of just choices of Black, White or Silver.
Sammy Samusu
Member
There were shortages, the fat shipment arrived on Saturday.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=85767628&postcount=695
It should be fine this week, the usual shops were only sold-out for a day (Friday).
Guys, I was checking Amazon JP and I noticed FFX/X-2 Vita Twin Pack seems to be sold out or something like that (my Japanese is as basic as it gets).
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_vg_1_1#1
Can you help me understand how this works on Amz Jp? I just want to know how an item that is on pre-order and not released yet can become unavailable. Is it high demand? Pre-orders also have a limited number?
Thanks a lot!
Edit: The listing is back to normal. But I'd still appreciate any kind of explanation of how this works. Thanks!
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_vg_1_1#1
Can you help me understand how this works on Amz Jp? I just want to know how an item that is on pre-order and not released yet can become unavailable. Is it high demand? Pre-orders also have a limited number?
Thanks a lot!
Edit: The listing is back to normal. But I'd still appreciate any kind of explanation of how this works. Thanks!
michaelius
Banned
Sales aren't going up - everything above them is failing faster probably.
Yes. Some games sell through their initial preorders on Amazon long before release. If this happens, they may get an extra print run ordered prior to release, which allows more preorders to be taken.
Also keep in mind that Amazon refreshes those lists every hour.
So while best sellers on the top the list shows that there is demand for the product it is a poor way to discern how well it sells .
new releases {2013.10.24}
[3DS] Sonic Lost World <ACT> (Sega) (¥5.229)
[PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) (¥3.980)
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) (¥2.980)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers: More, Blood # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers: More, Blood [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers: Twin Pack <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥9.240)
[PSP] Kamigami no Itazura # <ADV> (Broccoli) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Kamigami no Itazura [Limited Forbidden Box] <ADV> (Broccoli) (¥8.190)
[WIU] Sonic Lost World <ACT> (Sega) (¥7.329)
[PS3] BlazBlue: Chronophantasma # <FTG> (Arc System Works) (¥7.140)
[PS3] BlazBlue: Chronophantasma [Limited Box] <FTG> (Arc System Works) (¥10.290)
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) (¥3.980)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.040)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version [Premium Box] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥8.190)
[PS3] Root Double: Before Crime After Days - Xtend Edition # <ADV> (Yeti) (¥7.140)
[PS3] Root Double: Before Crime After Days - Xtend Edition [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Yeti) (¥9.240)
[PS3] Kazoku Keikaku Re:Tsumugu Ito # <ADV> (CyberFront) (¥7.140)
[PS3] Kazoku Keikaku Re:Tsumugu Ito [Limited Edition] <ADV> (CyberFront) (¥9.240)
[3DS] Sonic Lost World <ACT> (Sega) (¥5.229)
[PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) (¥3.980)
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) (¥2.980)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers: More, Blood # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers: More, Blood [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers: Twin Pack <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥9.240)
[PSP] Kamigami no Itazura # <ADV> (Broccoli) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Kamigami no Itazura [Limited Forbidden Box] <ADV> (Broccoli) (¥8.190)
[WIU] Sonic Lost World <ACT> (Sega) (¥7.329)
[PS3] BlazBlue: Chronophantasma # <FTG> (Arc System Works) (¥7.140)
[PS3] BlazBlue: Chronophantasma [Limited Box] <FTG> (Arc System Works) (¥10.290)
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) (¥3.980)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.040)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version [Premium Box] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥8.190)
[PS3] Root Double: Before Crime After Days - Xtend Edition # <ADV> (Yeti) (¥7.140)
[PS3] Root Double: Before Crime After Days - Xtend Edition [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Yeti) (¥9.240)
[PS3] Kazoku Keikaku Re:Tsumugu Ito # <ADV> (CyberFront) (¥7.140)
[PS3] Kazoku Keikaku Re:Tsumugu Ito [Limited Edition] <ADV> (CyberFront) (¥9.240)
No, you don't get it. You say that Vita will see big boost when the transition from PSP finally happens when that transition has almost fully happened last 2 years and Vita's benefit was the minimum. PSP's software sales will be lucky to hit 2m next year, there isn't anything more to gain from that system. The money spent on PSP software haven't moved to its successor. Numbers clearly show that (I hope an old man can see the rapid decline of PSP software last 2 years).
2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25}
[PSP] Software Sales - 13.975.141 <48,44%>
[NDS] Software Sales - 7.376.870 <25,57%>
[3DS] Software Sales - 7.104.325 <24,62%>
[PSV] Software Sales - 396.414 <1,37%>
[ALL] Software Sales - 28.852.750 <100,00%>
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30}
[3DS] Software Sales - 17.521.578 <54,62%>
[PSP] Software Sales - 7.701.189 <24,01%>
[NDS] Software Sales - 4.901.365 <15,28%>
[PSV] Software Sales - 1.953.478 <6,09%>
[ALL] Software Sales - 32.077.610 <100,00%>
2013 Q1-Q3 {2012.12.31 - 2013.09.29}
[3DS] Software Sales - 14.142.991 <70,41%>
[PSP] Software Sales - 3.370.345 <16,78%>
[PSV] Software Sales - 2.215.356 <11,03%>
[NDS] Software Sales - 357.310 <1,78%>
[ALL] Software Sales - 20.086.002 <100,00%>
Otakumegane
Member
Holy crap software sales really took a nosedive over the past year. Is that all because big companies transition to iOS? I don't see 12 million selling in 10 weeks.
It is the holidays, but the handheld gaming share has really dropped. The Vita and PSP aren't doing well and the 3DS is still below what the DS did in its later years.
Nintendo could surprise again like they did with the DS and Wii and their gaming brands still hold a great deal of value, but I am not very optimistic about the future right now.
13 weeks, until week 39, X/Y isn't in there.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's not correct yet. This year is missing the holidays, the previous 2 are full years, so it's still on par for now.
test_account
XP-39C²
Thanks. Are the two version being ranked seperately?
The different color on the plastic around the screen on the Yinlips, and also the transparent buttons and the ridges around the analog sticks/lower buttons makes the design not look as good as the Vita-2000, in my opinion. But of course, liking a design or not, that is a 100% subjective thing
I agree that the Vita-2000 looks a bit cheaper compared to the orignal Vita though. I think the different between iPhone 5S and 5C as darkside31337 mentioned is a good comparison. It looks cheaper, but hopefully the build quality still feels solid in both cases.Generally speaking, some of the designs on these chinese knockoffs arent really that bad looking i think. They're usually designed quite close to the original hardware design though, so i guess that is mainly why. There is also another Vita knock-off that has two analog sticks, its called the Droid X360. I've also seen a pirated DS Lite (that plays actual DS games) that looked nearly identical to an original DS Lite at first glance. Kinda impressive how they make these things look close to the originals. The build quality on these rip-off are usually noticeably worse than the originals though, that is usually the biggest difference between the knockoffs and the originals.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont know how much its being advertised, but its being released at the same date as both Wii Party U and Wii Fit U. There is also some nice added value to the bundles, and i think that the lower WiiU sales we have seen in the last two weeks is partially because someone are waiting to buy these bundles. I'm thinking 35k+.
Yeah that's..possible.
I dunno. If we had some idea on shipments for the bundles that might give us a better indication.
I really have no clue what to predict. They really are great bundles and in theory there is no reason for anyone thinking of purchasing a Wii U the last 3 weeks to get one until the 31st, but I cannot recall a value add bundle ever spurring hardware sales significantly (though I could be wrong!).
test_account
XP-39C²
Good point, i dont know how many of these bundles that are being shipped in the first week.
True, added value of older stuff might not do that much for hardware sales, but i think since Wii Party U is bundled (and Wii Fit U as well in the other bundle), being a new game, maybe it could have a better effect. Wii Party for Wii also sold great, so its a game that many people know. Very hard to say how popular Wii Party U will be compared to Wii Party though.
Nope. The Luigi add on and the retail version are treated as the same release, and the online add on is not treated as DLC for NSMB Wii U.
Aquamarine
Member
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[B][U]Comgnet Software Sales Rankings: Week 42, 2013 (Oct 14 - Oct 20)[/U][/B]
01. [3DS] Pokémon X – 309pt
02. [3DS] Pokémon Y – 291pt
03. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V – 241pt
04. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 – 201pt
[b]05. [3DS] Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! – 157pt[/b]
[b]06. [PS3] Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers – 57pt[/b]
07. [PS3] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! – 36pt
[b]08. [PS3] Beyond: Two Souls (First Edition) – 33pt[/b]
09. [PS3] Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack – 32pt
[b]10. [PS3] FIFA 14 – 26pt[/b]
11. [PS3] Fairy Fencer F (Limited Edition) – 24pt
12. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate – 21pt
13. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life – 20pt
14. [PSV] Dangan-Ronpa 1-2: Reload – 16pt
[b]15. [PS3] Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers (Limited Box) – 15pt[/b]
16. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life – 13pt
[b]17. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro + – 12pt[/b]
18. [3DS] Youkai Watch – 10pt
19. [PS3] Fairy Fencer F – 8pt
20. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf – 8pt
[B]* New releases are in bold
* 1 pt = 1 sale
PS3 - 10
3DS - 8
PSV - 1
PSP - 1[/B]No Tsutaya yet, but I'll post it when it releases.
Aquamarine
Member
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[B][U]Tsutaya Software Sales Rankings: Week 42, 2013 (Oct 14 - Oct 20) Comgnet Software Sales Rankings: Week 42, 2013 (Oct 14 - Oct 20)[/U][/B]
01./02. [3DS] Pokemon Y 01. [3DS] Pokémon X 309pt
02./01. [3DS] Pokemon X 02. [3DS] Pokémon Y 291pt
03./03. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V 03. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V 241pt
04./06. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 04. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 201pt
[b]05./NEW [3DS] Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle![/b] [b]05. [3DS] Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! 157pt[/b]
[b]06./NEW [PS3] FIFA 14[/b] [b]06. [PS3] Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers 57pt[/b]
[b]07./04. [PS3] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou![/b] 07. [PS3] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! 36pt
08./05. [PS3] Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack [b]08. [PS3] Beyond: Two Souls (First Edition) 33pt[/b]
[b]09./NEW [PS3] Beyond: Two Souls (Limited Edition)[/b] 09. [PS3] Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack 32pt
[b]10./NEW [PS3] Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers[/b] [b]10. [PS3] FIFA 14 26pt[/b]
11./07. [PSV] Dangan-Ronpa 1-2: Reload 11. [PS3] Fairy Fencer F (Limited Edition) 24pt
12./09. [PS3] Fairy Fencer F 12. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate 21pt
[b]13./NEW [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro +[/b] 13. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life 20pt
14./08. [PSV] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! 14. [PSV] Dangan-Ronpa 1-2: Reload 16pt
15./10. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate [b]15. [PS3] Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers (Limited Box) 15pt[/b]
16./17. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIV: A Real Reborn 16. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life 13pt
17./18. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life [b]17. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro + 12pt[/b]
18./12. [PS3] Armored Core: Verdict Day 18. [3DS] Youkai Watch 10pt
19./21. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf 19. [PS3] Fairy Fencer F 8pt
20./11. [360] Grand Theft Auto V 20. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf 8pt
[B]* New releases are in bold * 1 pt = 1 sale
PS3 - 10 PS3 - 10
3DS - 6 3DS - 8
PSV - 2 PSV - 1
PSP - 1 PSP - 1
360 - 1[/B]
[b][U]New releases not present in either Top 20:[/U]
[PSV] FIFA 14
[PSP] FIFA 14
[PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro +
[WIU] Rayman Legends
[360] Monster Hunter Frontier G3: Premium Package
[360] FIFA 14
[360] FIFA 14 (Ultimate Edition)[/b]For the people who aren't regulars in Media Create threads:
What is Tsutaya?
Tsutaya is a major retailer with 1,444 retail stores (613 that sell new games) all across Japan.
What is Comgnet?
Comgnet is the website for the retailer "COMG!" that has 16 retail stores across one prefecture in Japan.
Why post these rankings?
They are released three days before Media Create + Famitsu + Dengeki give us nationwide sales, so we get a general indication of how well the games will perform relative to their competition.
How accurate is Tsutaya compared to nationwide retail tracking services?
It's large enough that it gives a very probable indication of future sales rankings, but it's not large enough to be definitive.
Famitsu: ~3,600 stores
Media Create + Dengeki: >3,000 stores
Tsutaya: 613 stores
Comgnet: 16 stores
2013 Tsutaya + Comgnet Weekly Sales Archive
I might switch the GTA V and MH 4 numbers.
Aquamarine
Member
No surprise that Rayman Legends didn't chart in the Top 20 for Tsutaya / Comgnet this week. We could be looking at some very low numbers.
And guess what? A 360 game actually charted in the Top 20 two weeks in a row! I'm not sure if this says more about 360 software sales or how weak the retail situation is right now.
And guess what? A 360 game actually charted in the Top 20 two weeks in a row! I'm not sure if this says more about 360 software sales or how weak the retail situation is right now.
So looks like 3DS in en route to do even better than in 2012, since the Holidays season is yet to come, and Pokémon X and Y aren't taken into account here (plus some additional sales for Monster Hunter 4). And it's pretty clear now the the 3DS got most of the audience of the PSP, which compensates for the casuals leaving for more mobile pastures.
And I had forgotten how strong the DS still was when the 3DS launched.
OMG, Xbox One is sooo gonna dominate next-gen in Japan, those are the first signs!!.... Yeah, it's just GTAV by the way.
michaelius
Banned
How have it started that there are two nearly identical Pokemon games launched each generation with minimally diffrent content ?
Is there some data how many people buy both versions ?
Is there some data how many people buy both versions ?
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Deleted member 125677
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It was introduced to encourage social interaction while playing the game (trading version exclusive pokemons)
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Wow surprised how well GTAV is holding looking at those charts.
fredrancour
Member
To force you to trade pokemon to catch everything. It was fundamentally envisioned as a social game.
Maybe club nintendo will give Nintendo some data on who buys both versions, but overall I don't think there's a way to know. Mostly it really isn't worth the money to buy both.
Aquamarine
Member
I don't usually post this for a variety of reasons, but I think it may be somewhat relevant this week:
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[B][U]Tsutaya Top 5 Wii U Software Sales Rankings: Week 42, 2013 (Oct 14 - Oct 20)[/U][/B]
1) The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
Sold 3,069 units at rank #26 last week (according to Dengeki)
2) New Super Luigi U
Sold 1,419 units at rank #37 last week (according to Dengeki)
3) Pikmin 3
Sold 1,418 units at rank #39 last week (according to Dengeki)
[B]4) Rayman Legends[/B]
5) Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes OnlineI really hope Tsutaya is inaccurate when it comes to Wii U software rankings next week. If Rayman Legends doesn't make the Top 3 Wii U Software charts, it may very well debut under 1.5K.
michaelius
Banned
Maybe someone will at least spill the beans if it beaten Yakuza.
Thank You.
Thank You.