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Metal Gear Online Beta Official Thread -- NEOGAF DRAWS AGAINST KOJIPRO, video inside

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The Autumn Wind
buscket said:
please pass whatever crack you all are smoking. this game is horrid. I've given it a solid few hours of tries. i've done auto aim and hand aiming, headshots and spray and pray, cqc and knifing. Every time i'm unceremoniously spammed with half ass run and gun or spawn campers. over it.
Sounds like a combination of you sucking + playing with shitty players.
 

Narcosis

Member
More beta gameplay today.

I find CQC to be very clunky, is this the general consensus or is there just a huge learning curve?

One odd thing happened today, I logged in to see what matches were available, and to my surprise I see myself listed as hosting an 8 player match while I'm browsing the server menus. I'm all "WTF?" so I message the account with the same name (never got a response or anything in my own inbox from myself) and notice a guy in the same game I know from another forum who tells me my account name was listed as the host but nowhere to be seen.

Is this some indication of a glitch (this is a beta after all) or is it possible for 2 people to have the same screen name?
 

Sallokin

Member
I love the fact that scanning level 2 only costs 1 point to use. I'm starting to try and master the obscure ones but I'm not sure what I need to be doing on some of them cause they never seem to level even though they're highlighted for like half the match.

Also Movement 2 + Knife 2 = Awesome.
 

Cragen

Member
Hellsing321 said:
You have to have the scanning skill and when you hold someone press triangle. I was using it earlier in the beta but it didn't seem that useful because the person I got was never connected to their teams SOP system. :lol

Yeah, the SOP skills seem to be a lot more clan focused, when you know that you will be facing a group of people that are working together as a team.
 

Sallokin

Member
fistfulofmetal said:
I really hate the capture the flag mode.

Ditto. I'm not even that big a fan of the base capture mode either. I'd love to see some of the modes with the special characters (or special characters in general) make an appearance before the beta ends.
 

Cragen

Member
fistfulofmetal said:
I really hate the capture the flag mode.

I also hate you knife douche bags

I agree, it's not the best mode, at least not on the two maps that are included in the beta.

I just really want to try out the snake vs everyone mode (Can't remember the right name) Just using octocam and taking everyone down one by one :D
 

smik

Member
Hey Gaf!

I just finished completing my MGO montage, theres alot of variety in the video which shows different ways of playing and maneuvering. i gotta to say Metal Gear Online (Beta) is amazing i cant even put the words together...put it this way i have had GTA4 (Its amazing) for 5days :p

please check it out

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8fMyap8nM

It wont disappoint
 
buscket said:
enlighten me. what's the secret sauce I'm misisng that makes this fun? I stealthily approach someone, lock on, and get a half clip off with no effect before they leap 20 feat and stun me with knife. I try to use the knife and can't make it within 20 feet because the same spray and pray i tried using on them riddles me with bullets.

I want to like it (or i wouldn't keep trying), but it just isn't working for me. I'm not a noob, I can old my own in console shooters, but this is just aggravating rather than entertaining me.

Simple: You don't know how to play.

1. Play with GAF
2. Go to training mode
 
smik said:
Hey Gaf!

I just finished completing my MGO montage, theres alot of variety in the video which shows different ways of playing and maneuvering. i gotta to say Metal Gear Online (Beta) is amazing i cant even put the words together...put it this way i have had GTA4 (Its amazing) for 5days :p

please check it out

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8fMyap8nM

It wont disappoint
I don't think there's one person in Euro GAF clan that stays in one place for this long :p. It's really hard to snipe in here.
 

Cragen

Member
smik said:
Hey Gaf!

I just finished completing my MGO montage, theres alot of variety in the video which shows different ways of playing and maneuvering. i gotta to say Metal Gear Online (Beta) is amazing i cant even put the words together...put it this way i have had GTA4 (Its amazing) for 5days :p

please check it out

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8fMyap8nM

It wont disappoint

Was really nice, you got some madskills that's for sure :)
 

Cragen

Member
Ynos Yrros said:
I don't think there's one person in Euro GAF clan that stays in one place for this long :p. It's really hard to snipe in here.

Got to agree on that :D A lot more movement on the euro GAF server.
 

Sallokin

Member
smik said:
Hey Gaf!

I just finished completing my MGO montage, theres alot of variety in the video which shows different ways of playing and maneuvering. i gotta to say Metal Gear Online (Beta) is amazing i cant even put the words together...put it this way i have had GTA4 (Its amazing) for 5days :p

please check it out

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8fMyap8nM

It wont disappoint

You are ridiculous with that SVD.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Ynos Yrros said:
I don't think there's one person in Euro GAF clan that stays in one place for this long :p. It's really hard to snipe in here.

Word. How do you go into FPS mode with the P90 like that? Is it triangle?
 

buscket

Member
shagg_187 said:
Simple: You don't know how to play.

1. Play with GAF
2. Go to training mode

1. that knife BS happened in a GAF game.
2. i've done the training. i'm fully aware of how to change weapons, move around, and kill people. I'm just not having this magic level of fun doing it that everyone else is.
 

WTFing

Banned
smik said:
Hey Gaf!

I just finished completing my MGO montage, theres alot of variety in the video which shows different ways of playing and maneuvering. i gotta to say Metal Gear Online (Beta) is amazing i cant even put the words together...put it this way i have had GTA4 (Its amazing) for 5days :p

please check it out

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8fMyap8nM

It wont disappoint
Awesome montage and skills, especially when you change from AA to 3rd person view then 1st person on different situations.
 

Sallokin

Member
smik said:
thanks man

im actually a run & gun type of player but sniping in FPV is a thing of beauty

FPV=Sniping - ftw
3rdPV=Run&Gun - ftw

I've tried sniping out a lot and I'm just terrible at it (even though I'm unstoppable in COD4 at sniping). I'm going to give it another shot to see if I can figure out what I'm doing wrong in FPV.
 

Cragen

Member
smik said:
thanks man

im actually a run & gun type of player but sniping in FPV is a thing of beauty

FPV=Sniping - ftw
3rdPV=Run&Gun - ftw

I've hardly used the FPV with the rifles, but from watching your vid I think I'll have to reconsider. Gets really annoying when you have your targeting circle straight in the chest/head of a enemy but they just won't go down.

Got to learn how to use the First Person View more so I can get a lot more accurate kills.

Guess it's my own fault, considering this is really the first real online game I play on my PS3(Or consol in general) Always been more of a mouse and keyboard kind of guy when it comes to online games.
 

Cragen

Member
Kyoufu said:
I want to see some good shield montage videos :(

Then make it your self!

You're always the annoying bugger who just hides behind a big steel door :D

It's annoying as hell since you can't just shoot you since it will have no effect, and than when your reloading you will just take out your pistol and kill me.

Guess I can try rolling over you next time, maybe that will knock you off your feet, having actually tried it yet.
 

The Crimson Kid

what are you waiting for
I can see the basics of an amazing game here, but the game seriously needs some work. Good thing they did the beta so these issues could be addressed.

1. Lag/slowdown. I was just in the GAF room (fun matches btw), and the game was hovering at around 20-25fps the entire time for me. Also, near the end, some of the hit detection was a bit odd.

2. Unbalanced health system. You can throw 1/2 a clip into a guy's body but it only takes 1 headshot to kill. Huh? Raise the damage done with a body shot and all will be well.

3. Stealth isn't that useful. This is a Metal Gear Solid game. The fights shouldn't all devolve into random shootouts like every other shooter. This one will be the hardest to fix.

4. CQC stuff is unbalanced and a bit unwieldy. The game doesn't do a good job of explaining what all the CQC moves are. Also, grabbing in CQC is a bit hit-or-miss, especially if there is a bit of lag. One more thing: the knife is way too powerful. Damned Gaffers and their exploits! :D

Two 400 MB patches should fix all of that, I reckon.
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
buscket said:
1. that knife BS happened in a GAF game.
2. i've done the training. i'm fully aware of how to change weapons, move around, and kill people. I'm just not having this magic level of fun doing it that everyone else is.
the more you play the better you'll like it.

it was the same in mgo1 except that had an even bigger starting hump
 

KurowaSan

Member
Ynos Yrros said:
I hate that shield of yours :p. The lags however slight make me end up on the floor and getting owned ;(.

:lol

Lately i've been trying to trick him, making him believe I run out of bullets and i'm about to reload the clip, but I what i'm actually doing is switching to my gun :lol
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
The Crimson Kid said:
I can see the basics of an amazing game here, but the game seriously needs some work. Good thing they did the beta so these issues could be addressed.

1. Lag/slowdown. I was just in the GAF room (fun matches btw), and the game was hovering at around 20-25fps the entire time for me. Also, near the end, some of the hit detection was a bit odd.

2. Unbalanced health system. You can throw 1/2 a clip into a guy's body but it only takes 1 headshot to kill. Huh? Raise the damage done with a body shot and all will be well.

3. Stealth isn't that useful. This is a Metal Gear Solid game. The fights shouldn't all devolve into random shootouts like every other shooter. This one will be the hardest to fix.

4. CQC stuff is unbalanced and a bit unwieldy. The game doesn't do a good job of explaining what all the CQC moves are. Also, grabbing in CQC is a bit hit-or-miss, especially if there is a bit of lag. One more thing: the knife is way too powerful. Damned Gaffers and their exploits! :D

Two 400 MB patches should fix all of that, I reckon.

are you sure? i hear this a lot but im pretty sure people are just missing due to recoil. take the same gun and shoot at a still target in the torso with single shots. how many does it take?
 

smik

Member
Bugnology said:
Awesome montage and skills, especially when you change from AA to 3rd person view then 1st person on different situations.

Thanks alot

i was a good 30-60 minute learning curve with the controls but once you know all the different ways of playing its fun as s***

Sallokin the best way to learn to play is in third person view with your crosshair and occasionally switch to fpv when its aligned.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Cragen said:
Then make it your self!

You're always the annoying bugger who just hides behind a big steel door :D

It's annoying as hell since you can't just shoot you since it will have no effect, and than when your reloading you will just take out your pistol and kill me.

Guess I can try rolling over you next time, maybe that will knock you off your feet, having actually tried it yet.

I wish I could. You can roll through me and I'll be knocked over, definitely annoying when used on me.

I don't know how or why but sometimes I get hurt even when I'm crouched and guarding. Haven't really mastered shield yet, but I remember saying it was useless, I definitely take that back.

Another thing I said that was useless was auto-aim. I TAKE THAT BACK!

I use Auto-Aim level 2 and Movement level 2 now. Without auto-aim, shield wouldn't be useful at all, so please Konami, don't mess with it :p

KurowaSan said:
:lol

Lately i've been trying to trick him, making him believe I run out of bullets and i'm about to reload the clip, but I what i'm actually doing is switching to my gun :lol

OMFG, I think it was you who I was tricked by earlier today. You shot me alot as I was guarding then I went in for the kill but you weren't reloading, you got your handgun out instead and down I went :(

That was smart :p
 

IzumiK

Banned
The Crimson Kid said:
2. Unbalanced health system. You can throw 1/2 a clip into a guy's body but it only takes 1 headshot to kill. Huh? Raise the damage done with a body shot and all will be well.

Lol that's even better for me. My shotty will be a one hit kill and my super, long-range, autoaim SMG will destroy everything!
 
fistfulofmetal said:
I really hate the capture the flag mode.


This afternoon we had our most EPIC battle with this mode.

I love the multi kill with grenades on this mode :D

I think the cardbox is very underused. I don't undertsand because it's very effective and you can have a lot of fun by fooling everyone.
 

dfyb

Banned
how's the network performance of my server guys?
The Crimson Kid said:
2. Unbalanced health system. You can throw 1/2 a clip into a guy's body but it only takes 1 headshot to kill. Huh? Raise the damage done with a body shot and all will be well.
totally agree here. unless you hit the head, your bullets don't do enough damage.

The Crimson Kid said:
3. Stealth isn't that useful. This is a Metal Gear Solid game. The fights shouldn't all devolve into random shootouts like every other shooter. This one will be the hardest to fix.
this is a MGS game, but we're not playing as snake -- we are regular soldiers. stealth has it's own small place in MGO and i think it works well. the problem is that these current modes don't promote stealth all that much. there needs to be some sort of VIP mode where you escort a player to an extraction point -- it would be perfect for MGO's core gameplay.

The Crimson Kid said:
4. CQC stuff is unbalanced and a bit unwieldy. The game doesn't do a good job of explaining what all the CQC moves are. Also, grabbing in CQC is a bit hit-or-miss, especially if there is a bit of lag. One more thing: the knife is way too powerful. Damned Gaffers and their exploits! :D
i think the CQC is fine. knife is not overpowered at all -- it should DOMINATE at close ranges or there wouldn't be a point to using it.

remember, the advantages of CQC are greatly diminished when there's more than one foe -- stick with your teamates and CQC can't be nearly as effective against you.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Me_Marcadet said:
This afternoon we had our most EPIC battle with this mode.

I love the multi kill with grenades on this mode :D

I think the cardbox is very underused. I don't undertsand because it's very effective and you can have a lot of fun by fooling everyone.

I use it whenever I can.

Earlier today, I bought a SOP Destab and since NOBODY EVER FUCKING ESCORTS ME TO THE ENEMY BASE, I pulled a Solid Snake and hid in a box, 2 enemies ran past me and I made a run for it to the other side. It was so fucking funny!

Seriously, congratulations to Konami for pulling off stealth and action in one glorious package. This game is so beautifully done.
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
Kyoufu said:
I use it whenever I can.

Earlier today, I bought a SOP Destab and since NOBODY EVER FUCKING ESCORTS ME TO THE ENEMY BASE, I pulled a Solid Snake and hid in a box, 2 enemies ran past me and I made a run for it to the other side. It was so fucking funny!

Seriously, congratulations to Konami for pulling off stealth and action in one glorious package. This game is so beautifully done.
this story is awesome
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
The only thing OP about the Knife, and the other stuns, is how long they knock you out for, I realise it's a team game and someone should come over and help you up. But when you can stun someone, get killed, respawn, run over to the same person and finish them off before they can get up, it's just silly.
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
dfyb said:
how's the network performance of my server guys?
totally agree here. unless you hit the head, your bullets don't do enough damage.


this is a MGS game, but we're not playing as snake -- we are regular soldiers. stealth has it's own small place in MGO and i think it works well. the problem is that these current modes don't promote stealth all that much. there needs to be some sort of VIP mode where you escort a player to an extraction point -- it would be perfect for MGO's core gameplay.


i think the CQC is fine. knife is not overpowered at all -- it should DOMINATE at close ranges or there wouldn't be a point to using it.

remember, the advantages of CQC are greatly diminished when there's more than one foe -- stick with your teamates and CQC can't be nearly as effective against you.
sure youre hitting? >__<
 
KurowaSan said:
:lol

Lately i've been trying to trick him, making him believe I run out of bullets and i'm about to reload the clip, but I what i'm actually doing is switching to my gun :lol
Great tactic ;). I always try to go Rambo on him with my knife.
 

IzumiK

Banned
Me_Marcadet said:
I think the cardbox is very underused. I don't undertsand because it's very effective and you can have a lot of fun by fooling everyone.
I played for 28 hours already.

I spent an hour of that 28 hours in a cardboard box.:lol

You have no idea how many people just pass me and I just pop out and blow a hole through them with my shotty. Or on blood bath at point 5, I killed one guy four times by hiding at different points in a cardboard box. He gets killed the first time, I hide somewhere else. He heads to where I hid last time, and I sneak on him with my shotty. Goes on for two more times until we win.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Ikuu said:
The only thing OP about the Knife, and the other stuns, is how long they knock you out for, I realise it's a team game and someone should come over and help you up. But when you can stun someone, get killed, respawn, run over to the same person and finish them off before they can get up, it's just silly.

Yeah, sometimes I don't even bother to twirl the analogue stick to regain consciousness because I'm bound to get killed by a passing enemy anyway. I think they should shorten the time it takes to regain consciousness.
 
Kyoufu said:
Yeah, sometimes I don't even bother to twirl the analogue stick to regain consciousness because I'm bound to get killed by a passing enemy anyway. I think they should shorten the time it takes to regain consciousness.
Yeah, and people should stop killing people that sleep or are stunned. That's just lame folks.

Edit: Unless you're the one who stunned the guy.
 

Imm0rt4l

Member
smik said:
Hey Gaf!

I just finished completing my MGO montage, theres alot of variety in the video which shows different ways of playing and maneuvering. i gotta to say Metal Gear Online (Beta) is amazing i cant even put the words together...put it this way i have had GTA4 (Its amazing) for 5days :p

please check it out

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8fMyap8nM

It wont disappoint
you`re a fucking beast dude ill montage, nice music, it knocks hard.
 
I have been playing for quite a bit now but I still haven't got my head around how CQC works. Can somone explain how it is done effectively and the different moves that can be done? I also don't understand how to use the knife that slashes out when I hit triangle while I have a weapon drawn. I can't seem to hurt anyone. I wish the training went more in-depth with the CQC.

Almost forgot, what is a SOP destab?
 

KurowaSan

Member
Kyoufu said:
Yeah, sometimes I don't even bother to twirl the analogue stick to regain consciousness because I'm bound to get killed by a passing enemy anyway. I think they should shorten the time it takes to regain consciousness.

I remember this time when both me and an enemy got stunned. I was trying to twirl the stick as fast as I could because whoever got up first was gonna kill the other :lol
 
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