I'd buy an NX for that. I don't care how many times, I'll double dip for Metroid Prime for eternity.
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Metroid Prime vs. Zelda: Wind Waker
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I'd buy an NX for that. I don't care how many times, I'll double dip for Metroid Prime for eternity.
Vital Tundra
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I love Wind Waker, but Prime 1 is a game of the generation.
manueldelalas
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You mean the part were you have to press the win button, which you avoided using the whole game to try to make it somewhat challenging, three times to defeat a boss? Yeah, one of the finest pieces of modern gaming right there.
Made worse by the fact that there is a whole video of Ganondorf (spoiler!) beating the shit out of Link, just before the easiest boss fight ever. Completely anti climatic.
Day 1.
Correctomundo
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I would sell plasma and subsist on ramen to be able to buy this.
Gusy
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I think Prime's original dev team is the only team that could match Naughty Dog in the technical and gameplay department today.
Prime is indeed one of the greatest game ever made... maybe the best.
Do yourself a favor and read or watch Greg Kasavin's gamespot review of Prime. It puts the greatest game reviewer of all time together with perhaps the greatest game of all time. It's eye opening..
Prime is indeed one of the greatest game ever made... maybe the best.
Do yourself a favor and read or watch Greg Kasavin's gamespot review of Prime. It puts the greatest game reviewer of all time together with perhaps the greatest game of all time. It's eye opening..
Prime is a great game, but it is artistically conservative. The better game, for sure. But still, a perfect recipe of masterfully rethreaded paths.
But Wind Waker? Wind Waker is literally the second coming. The beauty and joy that game express are unparallaled, especially given the rather depressing story. It's aesthetical perfection for Zelda. It's a bold direction that displeased made many fans, it's a jump in the nothingness. It's a new visual genre, an unabashed innuendo of forms, an existence that justify itself with his audiovisual experience.
You may not like WW the game, but Wind Waker is certainly a giant of art in a landscape of bland experiences that can't speak to the heart.
But Wind Waker? Wind Waker is literally the second coming. The beauty and joy that game express are unparallaled, especially given the rather depressing story. It's aesthetical perfection for Zelda. It's a bold direction that displeased made many fans, it's a jump in the nothingness. It's a new visual genre, an unabashed innuendo of forms, an existence that justify itself with his audiovisual experience.
You may not like WW the game, but Wind Waker is certainly a giant of art in a landscape of bland experiences that can't speak to the heart.
Forerunner
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A Link to the Past
Banned
Yeah, that's always the thing... unless your dream is pretty broad or likely, thinking about it is only going to lead to hurt
DecoReturns
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I wouldn't put NG as in best gameplay department. It's the one aspects where I think they can do much better.
A Link to the Past
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So basically, "I like Wind Waker because it's pretty."Prime is a great game, but it is artistically conservative. The better game, for sure. But still, a perfect recipe of masterfully rethreaded paths.
But Wind Waker? Wind Waker is literally the second coming. The beauty and joy that game express are unparallaled, especially given the rather depressing story. It's aesthetical perfection for Zelda. It's a bold direction that displeased made many fans, it's a jump in the nothingness. It's a new visual genre, an unabashed innuendo of forms, an existence that justify itself with his audiovisual experience.
You may not like WW the game, but Wind Waker is certainly a giant of art in a landscape of bland experiences that can't speak to the heart.
I don't want another MW1 situation!
It is indeed very pretty.Let's be honest. It ispretty
I would even argue that it is very pretty
Ultimadrago
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I tried twice to get into Metroid Prime and its combat/progression bored me to death. I wouldn't even put it in the Top 10 Gamecube titles. (New) La Mulana, a little indie title, came years and years later to give me a much more fulfilled adventure than Prime ever did.
That said, my time with Metroid Prime was at least much better than my time completing Twilight Princess, the other Gamecube Zelda title.
That said, my time with Metroid Prime was at least much better than my time completing Twilight Princess, the other Gamecube Zelda title.
A Link to the Past
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TWW has the best 3D overworld
dreampeppers99
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ElectricBlanketFire
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I can't hate you because La Mulana is fucking amazing and one of my favorite games.
(But seriously, how do you get bored with Metroid Prime? It's an extremely well-paced game.)
Fuck that!
Boring shit with nothing except tiny plot of lands here and there, encounters tiredly expected with the most predictable layouts and the most boring way to hide hardware limitations ever.
Even less interesting towns to visit than MM (and I mean in number because Clock Town is majestic).
Fucking Ice and Fire island because being predictable extends beyond dungeons in this game.
Probably the worst overworld I had the displeasure of going through after the absurd shite that was Skyward Sword. If you can even call that crap overworld.
Yeah, 90% of the overworld is literally nothing.
Aldric
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TWW has some of the worst locales in any Zelda game.
Wow we're going to the Forest island now??? l can't wait to see how huge the forest is and what secrets it contains!
Oh it's actually a small cave with the fucking Deku tree in the middle, a potion shop and absolutely nothing else ok cool.
A Link to the Past
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Nah yo :v See 3D Zeldas always have such shitty overworlds, and traversing them ultimately is just a big ol' pain. At least Wind Waker - especially in HD - lets you settle in while you explore. And while the islands often prove to be less exciting than they could be, the neatness of seeing an island approaching is awesome.
Nostremitus
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Windwaker was great but Prime was pure unadulterated joy to play from beginning to end.
My vote: Metroid Prime.
My vote: Metroid Prime.
Couldn't disagree more. That feeling of settling on an island was fun for the first three dungeons. Same with the feeling of seeing an island in the distance. At first, you're like "I can go there! AMAZING!!" but half way through the game, you're like "Ugh, I gotta sail all the way over there..." That's sidestepped with fast travel, but that takes away the settling feeling even more.
Yeah seeing Islands go from small stuffs to less small stuffs sure is more exciting than discovering a vast plain after going through a forest /s
OoT, MM certainly are more interesting to explore even as n64 games against the vast nothingness of WW.
The most interesting parts of WW's overworld is never the islands and always the small stuffs floating or the floating towers that always gives less interesting rewards than the shitty ruppees tp gave you.
The more we talk about it the happier I am to having skipped that remake, not like they could have changed the major issues with the games anyway.
StarStabbedMoon
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Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game ever, it has some of the best art direction I've ever seen in video games, I've replayed it more times than I can count. I was there on launch day after hyping myself up on the master quest pre-order bonus for months, played it for hundreds of hours, defended it to all the skeptics who hated the toon style. I loved it from the moment I saw it announced while elsewhere heads exploded over the drastic change from the Zelda tech demo. I still pick it up from time to time, both before and after the HD remake was released.
but really, Metroid Prime and it's not even close.
but really, Metroid Prime and it's not even close.
Another issue is that after a little while with the game you realize there is exactly 1 point of interest in each square on the map, typically a small island, and the sense of discovery and adventure dimishes because of it. I kept wondering if I'd discover a larger island taking up multiple squares or like one side of the map is land or something, but nope, just 1 tiny island per square.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Prime by a fucking mile. It's a masterpiece.
MemoryHumanity
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I literally cannot choose.
Master Quest was really, REALLY awesome.
The best surprise gift this side of "Finished with Johto? Here's Kanto to explore again"(and I never played GSC or HGSS)
the toon style was divisive but actually very, very good.
It suffers also from the WW soundtrack syndrome : the soundtrack is awesome but not when you play it if that makes sense.
The same happened in SS which I feel was a major step down after TP(which the internet hated because of shitty compression)
Now the game part....I don't have nice things to say so I won't say anything.
MaximusPrimus
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Funny thing is, I'm actually playing through both of these again on the Oculus Rift using DolphinVR and it is FUCKING MINDBLOWING. Both games work and run 98% native IMO. I haven't touched these games since I completed them upon release and this is the most fun i've had in VR so far. It's not even close.
moozoom
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Wind waker by a mile.
I liked metroid prime and it's a surprising good adaptation of metroid gameplay and atmosphere to the fps genre... BUT
Wind waker art style is timeless and it's the first 3d Zelda game in which Link became a likable character for me. The facial expressions and the way he reacts to the world with little animations made me feel empathy for him for the first time since Link's Awakening and its cute little chibi illustrations.
I played and liked the previous Zelda games, but I liked the puzzles and gameplay more than the main character which I always found bland.
When I first saw the trailer of WW, I felt an immense hype because it felt like after all those years, you could finally really play with a interactive cartoon. And not like Dragon"s Lair - it was a real game with a world you could explore. When I turned to the internet and saw the tears and the madness of people shitting on the visuals and demanding a REAL zelda, I couldn't believe my eyes. A few years later, and most people made a 180, saying the game was great after all...
I admit the triforce quest and the "missing dungeons" put a dent in the overall quality of WW, but Metroid Prime had weird difficulty spikes, and some moments that I really disliked. The end boss was super hard and it soured the experience a bit for me. I hate fps usually, but the exploration and atmosphere made up for the shooting bits that I didn't care for. Still, if you ask me my favorite games, there's no chance that Metroid prime finishes in the list, I wouldn't even think of it. WW would be in top ten.
I liked metroid prime and it's a surprising good adaptation of metroid gameplay and atmosphere to the fps genre... BUT
Wind waker art style is timeless and it's the first 3d Zelda game in which Link became a likable character for me. The facial expressions and the way he reacts to the world with little animations made me feel empathy for him for the first time since Link's Awakening and its cute little chibi illustrations.
I played and liked the previous Zelda games, but I liked the puzzles and gameplay more than the main character which I always found bland.
When I first saw the trailer of WW, I felt an immense hype because it felt like after all those years, you could finally really play with a interactive cartoon. And not like Dragon"s Lair - it was a real game with a world you could explore. When I turned to the internet and saw the tears and the madness of people shitting on the visuals and demanding a REAL zelda, I couldn't believe my eyes. A few years later, and most people made a 180, saying the game was great after all...
I admit the triforce quest and the "missing dungeons" put a dent in the overall quality of WW, but Metroid Prime had weird difficulty spikes, and some moments that I really disliked. The end boss was super hard and it soured the experience a bit for me. I hate fps usually, but the exploration and atmosphere made up for the shooting bits that I didn't care for. Still, if you ask me my favorite games, there's no chance that Metroid prime finishes in the list, I wouldn't even think of it. WW would be in top ten.
Dash Kappei
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Love 'em both to death.
If I had to choose one at gunpoint
I'd go with MP.
God I adored the Gamecube,
If I had to choose one at gunpoint
I'd go with MP.
God I adored the Gamecube,
SpartanSlayer117
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Metroid Prime no contest.
But it's the final boss, being hard should be expected. It's the last challenge the game throws at you.
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