Lets just say agree to disagree on Sunshine and DK64. If i did not borrow DK64 and payed full price for it back in the day it would probably be in my top 5 most hated games. I wont pretend that Sunshine is the best 3D Mario or anything but it was the most fun i had with a 3D platformer since Banjo Kazooie. DK64 was a chore list turned into a video game with no satisfying mechanics keeping it together. For me it is the Other M of DK games.
I paid it full price a mere month after JFG at a time I don't think I had the means to spare for it, even got a 2nd expansion pack for no reason thanks to the game.
It's not a DK64 thread but I'll say that the mission based design of 64 was broken in Sunshine for no reason and DK64 instead chosed a more freeform of gameplay that's more about exploring the areas to find the next challenge to tackle.
It's very open (some would say far too much) and the challenges are quite fun to tackle although it is overwhelming at times.
I probably would hate the game if the bosses and the music were subpar.
It's by no mean the best n64 Rare game (it's way below GOAT JetForceGemini and the fantastic BadFurday) but it's certainly fun.
It's full to the brim with content and nice callbacks to the SNES games. It should have needed to cut on some content that was going way overboard.
They should have cut on the mandatory content, put different endings and make the last part before the last boss a real level.
I guess if you feel as strongly about DK64 as I do for Other M I won't convince you here.
As for jungle beat its not bad per say but does not even begin to stack up to any of the DKC games. As far as mainline DK games go the N64 and Gamecube dropped the ball heavily on that series. It is a bit funny that Jungle beat received a kind of a similar reaction to the one Federation Force received. Metroid and DK have allot in common actually. In terms of how both I.Ps were handled.
As I said, I don't really care about JB. But while I don't doubt that the GC DK games were that interesting compared to the SNES ones they're still fairly competent.
From I've seen they didn't do that badly either.
It's not a StarFox situation that went to shit quite quickly.
MK i do not think was ever a great franchise until DS and i my opinion has only gotten better since. MK64 looked embarrassing when compared to something like Crash Team Racing back in the day. Sales wise yeah MK is untouchable.
SMK is one of my fav SNES game ever, among the greatest like SMRPG, Yoshi's Island and co.
MK64 was disappointing and DD was only worth it for the fact that it got me the zelda collection disc.
Every single MK after that is golden.
I got my DS with MK DS and expected to hate it. It's fabulous, the retro tracks were awesome, the music fantastic, the only downside was the online that was shit if you didn't snake.
MKWii, 7, 8 and 8D are the best racers made this side of FzeroX.
MK is at a place right now that I wish 3D Mario, Metroid and Zelda (before BotW) would be. And I mean quality wise.
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How much more perfect can you get than this?
See we can agree on things!
At this point that's the most irrational thing I heard in a while. And we just had a guy think Nintendo was making a phone.
I'm not saying it's gonna be shit, I'm saying it's not gonna be for me.
I doubt it's gonna do BotW level too because 3D Mario never did anyway and I don't this one doing anything differently.