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Better make it a good one since we’re getting rumours of AAA titles being 4K and 90FPS. Or GT aiming for 4K, 120FPS and Ray-Tracing.
Better make it a good one since we’re getting rumours of AAA titles being 4K and 90FPS. Or GT aiming for 4K, 120FPS and Ray-Tracing.
First party devs can do some magic, but thats not going to happen. Not at $400-500 hardware. Everygen people get over hyped and set themselves up for dissapointment.Better make it a good one since we’re getting rumours of AAA titles being 4K and 90FPS. Or GT aiming for 4K, 120FPS and Ray-Tracing.
So let's say we want to compare the performance of an Xbox One X to a PC not even next gen. I'm not in the U.S. so no idea what the cost of that console is at the moment, let's say its $400 USD. You're telling me that right now, someone can build a PC which is of equivalent performance of the X for that same amount? Yeah I call bullshit on that one.Like the poster above said PC gaming is about what you want to make of it and not being stuck to a static hardware. PS5 and XsX I'm sure are going decent machines, but you don't need to pay an arm and a leg for a better than console experience. We have hardware today that's already supieror and it will only get cheaper from here on out.
Well your first statement is confusing because you just said you spend what you want to get the experience you want, but If your budget is tight, you aren't going to be getting an experience better than console so being at the mercy of devs is irrelevant because in that situation you are getting better on the console than on your budget PC. The X puts out Dynamic 4K 60fps on some games now and how old is that hardware tech? Ancient!The point about PCs is that it really doesn’t matter what the next guy is running, you spend what you want to get the experience you want. You’re not at the mercy of the devs and manufacturers who have different and conflicting goals (manufacturers have to keep price down, devs often focus on graphics over frame rate to sell games). I don’t know what sub par PC means in this context.
I don’t know what the next gen of consoles will do, I’m sure they will be decent machines, but I also don’t know what PC hardware will look like at year end, and how they will compare.
You are right in everything you say, PC's are great except that some people don't like that much control or options. Some people are simply not into modding or tweaking game settings. If it's something you like than great, but a lot of people like you that love it struggle to understand why people don't. This is where i see a lot of debate between console and PC.Do it.
This generation I built my first PC. I have been playing my PS4 but not so much. I only used it for games like Bloodborne, Persona, Horizon, etc. Currently playing RDR2 because the PC version is a mess.
Going into next gen, usually I'd buy a new console asap but this time I'm waiting for a few games on PS5 that I can't play on PC. If that happens day or 3 years down the line then whatever.
This year the money I was going to use to buy a console + TV will instead go to PC. I recently bought a 1440p 144hz monitor in place of a new TV and instead of a new console I'm gonna get a new GPU.
PC really is a great platform. If you prefer playing on a big screen with a controller you can. If you want to sit close and use a kB/m you can. You can mod games. You have complete control over games. You want 1080/1440/2160p? You got it. 30/60/120/144/240hz(FPS)....if your pc is powerful enough you got it. You can play at 720p 30fps or 4k 144hz. It's up to you!!
There is so more you can do on PC but I ain't got all day.
Just build a pc it's the right thing to do if you are serious about games.
So let's say we want to compare the performance of an Xbox One X to a PC not even next gen. I'm not in the U.S. so no idea what the cost of that console is at the moment, let's say its $400 USD. You're telling me that right now, someone can build a PC which is of equivalent performance of the X for that same amount? Yeah I call bullshit on that one.
Also static hardware does not need to be upgraded like PC does, most games are made and optimised for console. If you have the money great, build/buy a PC but that's not the world and reality that most people live in. Console has allowed gaming to become more mainstream and accessible. Some of the greatest games were created because of consoles.
For the exact same price? Maybe not as we don't have the benefit to buying parts in bulk like MS. But this budget build from a year ago outperforms the xbox one x in games. Keep in mind too we don't need an online subscription to play multiplayer and games are much cheaper go on discount much faster than console platforms.
As time goes on hardware that is superior will only get cheaper and will always be superior.
How is it clutching at straws? It's a supieror experience. It's even Ray Tracing capable too which the Xbox one x can not do at all.All I can say is this video is clutching at straws. I've seen this video before.. I don't even need to explain why.
For the exact same price? Maybe not as we don't have the benefit to buying parts in bulk like MS. But this budget build from a year ago outperforms the xbox one x in games. Keep in mind too we don't need an online subscription to play multiplayer and games are much cheaper go on discount much faster than console platforms.
As time goes on hardware that is superior will only get cheaper and will always be superior.
This dude built his PC for $500 which is not significantly more expensive than the Xbox One X. The point is it's possible to have a superior experience without breaking the bank at all. Would i personally do it? No because gaming is my number one hobby and i have the disposable income to splurge on a premium experience.The issue with videos like thia is that you’re comparing a $300-$500 video card against a $350-$500 console.
The console is all you need to play games whereas you’ll need to stack on $200-$400 worth of extra hardware on top of the video card to get a functional PC.
Nobody is denying that PC gaming offers higher fidelity but it’s almost always a higher cost of hardware if you’re trying to make something comparable.
Not everyone have that kind of money to buy all the consoles and buy/build PC to play everything.Again.
Buy all the consoles. Get or build yourself a PC.
Play everything.
Again.
Buy all the consoles. Get or build yourself a PC.
Play everything.
What’s it like being disgustingly wealthy? Pretty cool I bet.
I hear this shit before every gen, including the last one. We saw how that turned out. PD talks all sorts of baloney before every new game comes out. It's all marketing hype.
First party devs can do some magic, but thats not going to happen. Not at $400-500 hardware. Everygen people get over hyped and set themselves up for dissapointment.
Well I hate to burst your bubble, but 1st or 3rd party it's simply not going to happen unless it's some indie game. Even my 2080 Super has to make sacrifices for that to happen in current gen games.The 4K/90FPS was a multiplatform game.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
99% here probably doesn't even know what ASMR is.www.neogaf.com
As a primarily PC gamer and mostly for older games/preservation/emulation etc these days...
There is nothing to gain from throwing in the towel now. The good old days of PC gaming having its exclusive set of releases that make it worth going out and buying a pc for ended back in the early 2000's. Escape from Tarkov, Crysis 1, Metro 1/2 and hopefully soon, Star Citizen have been the only real PC games that I felt were worth having a high end pc to play them on in the last...almost ten years. Im excluding mods and indie here, but lets face it, you're not getting into pc gaming to buy the latest spiritual successor to Quake or Doom released in early access on Steam.
I spend a lot if time with emulation, none of the emulators out there for last gen consoles are going to be stable and providing a setup and run experience for atleast another year and that is dependent on the game. For a one build for all of that last gen consoles games...another two years, even with the fast progress theyve made.
In terms of playing exclusives:
The only way to play Zombie U as it was intended (and worth it if you can spare the money to get the game/console), is on a WiiU and its easily one of the best zombie and gaming experience out there. The game does not work on Cemu, wont for some time and it will never recreate the wiiU pad experience so integral to the game.
RPCS3/Xenia/Dolphin/PCSX2/EPSXE. So you got a build for that one game you remember being good and its running at 60fps 4k. How many times you plan on playing its SP campaign?
I could go on, but Im hungry.
This is gaming we're talking about. If you cant afford it, dont go around belittling people who can.
Well I hate to burst your bubble, but 1st or 3rd party it's simply not going to happen unless it's some indie game. Even my 2080 Super has to make sacrifices for that to happen in current gen games.
Sony and MS can't magically turn a rx 5700 xt into a super beast.
It’s envy, if anything.
Have fun playing the last of us 2 in 2030 while the rest of us will be playing in 2020
Not everyone have that kind of money to buy all the consoles and buy/build PC to play everything.
No one said you had to buy everything all at once. However, I don't know where this idea that gaming was supposed to be a relatively cheap hobby comes from. If you really are going to spend years devoted to this, you should be seriously putting money into it. This whole fanboy/company worship nonsense needs to go. The focus needs to be on the games themselves.What’s it like being disgustingly wealthy? Pretty cool I bet.
Yes everything comes crumbling down on PC when a driver isn't configured correctly. And Skyrim was a joy to play on consoles.Until something about your hardware setup or driver configuration causes it to all come crumbling down. There's always one thing or another that just isn't right or quite perfect when it comes to PCs. I remember when I first encountered the Z-fighting in Skyrim. What a nasty little surprise that was as I was tromping across that dull brown marshscape. I'm not anti-PC. I build my own ever so often. Still there are benefits to just gaming on a $400 box and accepting that we're all getting basically the same packaged experience free of troubleshooting.
More like 2021 on PS Now.Have fun playing the last of us 2 in 2030 while the rest of us will be playing in 2020
I'm ready to say fukk it and go PC.
Sony putting exclusives on there next gen, Microsoft already putting all there exclusives and gamepass on PC, Pretty much every third party game drops on PC.
There are two Switch emulators in the works.
Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U emulators are playable now
You can run android for your mobile gaming needs if you want to.
All the emulators for all the classic consoles make it a true king in the backwards compatibility department.
Most games are going cross play for multiplayer so you don't even need to pay monthly for online.
Steam deals are sometimes cheaper than console.
You can play the three gamepads from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.
With the Master Race you can never loss and are pretty much covered in every aspect.
Looks like someone won't be playing The Last of Us 3.
I already have a pc but if sony doesn't put his games day one on pc i don't think that a lot of people are gonna wait months if not years to play certain exclusives sony games... I know that i can't because i'm an hyped gamer.I'm ready to say fukk it and go PC.
Sony putting exclusives on there next gen, Microsoft already putting all there exclusives and gamepass on PC, Pretty much every third party game drops on PC.
There are two Switch emulators in the works.
Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U emulators are playable now
You can run android for your mobile gaming needs if you want to.
All the emulators for all the classic consoles make it a true king in the backwards compatibility department.
Most games are going cross play for multiplayer so you don't even need to pay monthly for online.
Steam deals are sometimes cheaper than console.
You can play the three gamepads from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.
With the Master Race you can never loss and are pretty much covered in every aspect.
Sure, but don't complain if the console isn't as powerful as you want or not enough games run at 60fps or whatever. With consoles, you're always playing on the terms set by the manufacturer.
Are you sure about that? Remember Batman Arkham Knight? You're always at the mercy of devs, no matter what you think. Optimizations matter a lot.The point about PCs is that it really doesn’t matter what the next guy is running, you spend what you want to get the experience you want. You’re not at the mercy of the devs and manufacturers who have different and conflicting goals (manufacturers have to keep price down, devs often focus on graphics over frame rate to sell games). I don’t know what sub par PC means in this context.
PC gaming is cheaper on account of game prices, and most price-conscious PC gamers, swap parts out individually, instead of outright buying the whole PC+monitor all over again when an upgrade is necessary.The issue with videos like thia is that you’re comparing a $300-$500 video card against a $350-$500 console.
The console is all you need to play games whereas you’ll need to stack on $200-$400 worth of extra hardware on top of the video card to get a functional PC.
Nobody is denying that PC gaming offers higher fidelity but it’s almost always a higher cost of hardware if you’re trying to make something comparable.
PC gaming is cheaper on account of game prices, and most price-conscious PC gamers, swap parts out individually, instead of outright buying the whole PC+monitor all over again when an upgrade is necessary.
It ends up costing the about the same or less, and gives a superior experience in the long run.
The only reason to get a console is to play some exclusive which is unlikely to come out on PC. There are very few of those.
Or if you're a simpleton or don't want to deal with anything that PC gaming entails.
The price isn't really the barrier if you have your wits about you.
Mmm. My PC was over £900 and I literally use it to play mmo's, Skyrim, and the occasional indie game. Money well spent...Don't do the same mistake my friend did which is spend over $2000 for PC gaming.
I still don't know which group is more obnoxious: pcmr or switch beggars ;p this thread might sway my opinion tho, lol
when you need good links for great cheats for mp games on pc you can Google it.I'm ready to say fukk it and go PC.
Sony putting exclusives on there next gen, Microsoft already putting all there exclusives and gamepass on PC, Pretty much every third party game drops on PC.
There are two Switch emulators in the works.
Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U emulators are playable now
You can run android for your mobile gaming needs if you want to.
All the emulators for all the classic consoles make it a true king in the backwards compatibility department.
Most games are going cross play for multiplayer so you don't even need to pay monthly for online.
Steam deals are sometimes cheaper than console.
You can play the three gamepads from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.
With the Master Race you can never loss and are pretty much covered in every aspect.
PC Master Race.I still don't know which group is more obnoxious: pcmr or switch beggars ;p this thread might sway my opinion tho, lol