Exactly, it's like me asking them to fund me to help me become a solicitor and if they do, I'll represent them one time for free when I get my degree.
Sound ridiculous? That's because it is.
Also, here's a hilarious comment by her made 2 years ago on this TechCrunch article:
I've highlighted the best bits.
I went on her about.me page by accident, I almost fell of my chair.
Does anyone else feel that this could become a great franchise?
Episode 1: McKenzie vs RPGMaker
it´s live now on Kickstarter
Episode 2: McKenzie vs The Pony Remark
- Kenzie´s mean brothers say she can´t ride a pony because she´s a guuurrrll. Susan decides to start a new Kickstarter project to show them. Target is to raise $829 for pony camp. Extra money will go to the purchase of the pony and the stable. $10K reward tier has the boys clean the stable as a punishment. Every backer will get a video of Kenzie riding the pony and a horse shoe with the Keep Up! logo.
Episode 3: McKenzie vs The Pool
- Kenzie´s mean brothers say she can´t swim a kilometer because she´s a guuurrrlll. Susan decides to start a new Kickstarter project to show them. Target is to raise $829 for swimming camp. Extra money will go to bathing suits and a pool in the garden. $10K reward tier has the boys clean the pool when autumn sets in and it´s full of leafs. Every backer get a bathing cap with the Keep Up! logo.
Susan, if you plan on using any of the above ideas, let´s split $.
Isn't KS setting legal precedent by keeping this up? What happens when the next person comes and they get theirs taken down? Can't they cite this one and now say they are being unfairly treated?
Exactly, people are defending it by saying it might bend the rules a bit but doesn't completely break them. What if I created one for myself to help pay for my University fees but I'd promise to create something for backers once I'm done. Would it get taken down? Maybe I should try.
Does anyone else feel that this could become a great franchise?
Episode 1: McKenzie vs RPGMaker
it´s live now on Kickstarter
Episode 2: McKenzie vs The Pony Remark
- Kenzie´s mean brothers say she can´t ride a pony because she´s a guuurrrll. Susan decides to start a new Kickstarter project to show them. Target is to raise $829 for pony camp. Extra money will go to the purchase of the pony and the stable. $10K reward tier has the boys clean the stable as a punishment. Every backer will get a video of Kenzie riding the pony and a horse shoe with the Keep Up! logo.
Episode 3: McKenzie vs The Pool
- Kenzie´s mean brothers say she can´t swim a kilometer because she´s a guuurrrlll. Susan decides to start a new Kickstarter project to show them. Target is to raise $829 for swimming camp. Extra money will go to bathing suits and a pool in the garden. $10K reward tier has the boys clean the pool when autumn sets in and it´s full of leafs. Every backer get a bathing cap with the Keep Up! logo.
Susan, if you plan on using any of the above ideas, let´s split $.
I'd say people like this woman is what makes true, honest, hard working people look bad.
I don't think I've met any 9 year old girls who list Borderlands 2 and Dragon Age as their favorite games..
It's more than possible, but that speaks volumes for how a good a mother this woman is.
Something about strangers buying a 9year old daughter swimsuits... will clearly attract the news... for maybe a different reason.
Well I posted my personal response, not as a representative of anyone but myself. It's still kind of surreal that she ended up commenting on my small, personal Destructoid blog.
I'm still honestly not sure what to think about the whole situation, but I felt I should say something.
Isn't this the exact outcome you wanted? The whole issue started when this project was allowed to exist and go forward by kickstarter and its backers. The people with an actual stake in the project..
And now we, the unrelated third parties, get a say in how their money gets spent. We can even demand that she refund the money to the backers, because as we know, that's not something the backers can figure out for themselves. It's our duty to protect them.
Not the exact outcome, but I have no regrets. It's incredibly shady, and I'd rather KS just canceled it.
Her and Kickstarter are the only ones with a say in it. Honestly, her even offering 4 Chan the option to decide makes it look like she doesn't value her backers' contributions at all. I told her to cancel it, or ask the backers in as transparent a way as possible.
She openly admitted she has no real plan for spending their money.
Well we should just flood Kickstarter with similar male Fund My Life campaigns.
To be equivalent it'd be preferable if it was someone who didn't need the money.It would be good if a GAFer who actually needed the money to purchase a dream would do that.
Does anyone else feel that this could become a great franchise?
Episode 1: McKenzie vs RPGMaker
it´s live now on Kickstarter
Episode 2: McKenzie vs The Pony Remark
- Kenzie´s mean brothers say she can´t ride a pony because she´s a guuurrrll. Susan decides to start a new Kickstarter project to show them. Target is to raise $829 for pony camp. Extra money will go to the purchase of the pony and the stable. $10K reward tier has the boys clean the stable as a punishment. Every backer will get a video of Kenzie riding the pony and a horse shoe with the Keep Up! logo.
Episode 3: McKenzie vs The Pool
- Kenzie´s mean brothers say she can´t swim a kilometer because she´s a guuurrrlll. Susan decides to start a new Kickstarter project to show them. Target is to raise $829 for swimming camp. Extra money will go to bathing suits and a pool in the garden. $10K reward tier has the boys clean the pool when autumn sets in and it´s full of leafs. Every backer get a bathing cap with the Keep Up! logo.
Susan, if you plan on using any of the above ideas, let´s split $.
Episode 46. McKenzie vs. a New Mortgage
She will probably get her mortgage kickstarted.
edit: ooh, I get it. She'll get everything kickstarted. Good one, guys.
I really don't think Kickstarter considers making a game in RPG Maker a "Fund My Life" campaign, because there's been plenty Kickstarters like that in the past. If you want to make an RPG Maker game, you can make a Kickstarter and ask for money. Others have done it before and been successful.
What does it mean to "fund the game"? Making a game in RPG Maker generally doesn't cost anything but time and the price of the software. Kickstarters are used to make a creative project, and the way to get to that end goal isn't so strict, if past Kickstarters are any indication.The difference is that this isn't to fund the game, at all. It's to fund tuition to camp (in one of the updates she clarifies it's not even to fund camp, so much as girl power rahrahrah as the girl was already going to camp prior to the brothers insulting her and driving the creation of the campaign.) One of the camp activities is making a game by the end of the week--this isn't to get her training to then go home and make a game, it's paying for her to go to camp and getting the result of whatever she makes there. As far as I know, this is the first time Kickstarter is being used to pay for a class with the project being essentially taking the class.
It's a violation of the standards Kickstarter has previously claimed to have; their rules, they can change them, but they lose ground to reject other projects for failing to meet standards because they're choosing to allow this one.
I don't see why paying for camp or a laptop is any different than pocketing the money as a salary or spending it on equipment or paying someone else to create art or whatever, as long as the game gets made and released.
Tomorrow evening my "Get me to the SuperBowl" kickstarter is going up.
Personally, I still think it's totally different because we're talking about education. Doesn't Kickstarter require that people have a reasonable chance of completing the projects they promise?
If you literally are saying that you don't even have the knowledge and skills to deliver the product, but if you go to school (and pass the class) then maybe you might ... does this really qualify as someone having a reasonable chance for success here? They literally don't have the knowledge of how difficult it even is to make the product yet, because they don't even know how to make it yet. They can't even tell if they will be able to make it, because they don't even know what making it entails yet.
I can see why that doubt exists, but this isn't a current policy, unless I've missed it, so the Kickstarter isn't breaking any rules. That's why I think Kickstarter hasn't taken down the project. Any of the projects on Kickstarter have to be taken somewhat on faith that the person will be able to do them, and if one doubts that they don't have to donate.I get that's what you think, but at this point you're just repeating it over and over.
Personally, I still think it's totally different because we're talking about education. Doesn't Kickstarter require that people have a reasonable chance of completing the projects they promise?
If you literally are saying that you don't even have the knowledge and skills to deliver the product, but if you go to school (and pass the class) then maybe you might ... does this really qualify as someone having a reasonable chance for success here? They literally don't have the knowledge of how difficult it even is to make the product yet, because they don't even know how to make it yet. They can't even tell if they will be able to make it, because they don't even know what making it entails yet.
It seems totally different from someone who wants to do a photography project, but say, needs a camera.
Tomorrow evening my "Get me to the SuperBowl" kickstarter is going up.
Here's a question: Let's say I want my son to become a race driver in the future, would it be within Kickstarter's TOS to get his own personal Ferrari kickstarted so he can train on the track?
Here's a question: Let's say I want my son to become a race driver in the future, would it be within Kickstarter's TOS to get his own personal Ferrari kickstarted so he can train on the track?
There has to be a specific creative project, the rules state that a project "has a clear goal, like making an album, a book, or a work of art. A project will eventually be completed, and something will be produced by it. A project is not open-ended." It can't be used to fund someone's life goals without a specific project attached. The project is some sort of produced object.Here's a question: Let's say I want my son to become a race driver in the future, would it be within Kickstarter's TOS to get his own personal Ferrari kickstarted so he can train on the track?
Here's a question: Let's say I want my son to become a race driver in the future, would it be within Kickstarter's TOS to get his own personal Ferrari kickstarted so he can train on the track?
Damn, IndieGogo is cool and lets you make campaigns for anything. I don't even have to be cryptic or anything.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/i-need-to-move-out-and-get-a-new-video-card/
The difference is that this kickstarter is not about the product. Nobody cares about the thing being produced. I think the pledges are being given largely as acts of charity.What does it mean to "fund the game"? Making a game in RPG Maker generally doesn't cost anything but time and the price of the software. Kickstarters are used to make a creative project, and the way to get to that end goal isn't so strict, if past Kickstarters are any indication.
If the path is: Create Kickstarter ---> [???] ---> release a product, many many Kickstarters fall under that, where the ??? isn't as important or nonexistant. There's even a past RPG Maker Kickstarter where the money was only used to send backer rewards, the rest was pocketed by the guy who made the game.
I don't see why paying for camp or a laptop is any different than pocketing the money as a salary or spending it on equipment or paying someone else to create art or whatever, as long as the game gets made and released.
So I got an email from Kickstarter this morning.
Last night I sent an email to Susan Wilson complaining about how her project was unethical. Today, Kickstarter sent me an email saying I had abused their system and now features on the site are going to be withheld from me.