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I have no doubt that LCD will eventually kill OLED, it will match it in contrast and blacks while destroying it in every other regard.
If MicroLED can be made in a cost effective manner and live up to its potential, then I agree it absolutely should be the preferred display tech. But, it's not a given that will happen. Pixel density is an R&D headache right now. Getting the pixel density down to where it can accommodate enough pixels for a 4K display (especially 8K) at 55" inches has been in a word challenging. Do I think it will get there? Yes, eventually, but it aint gonna be tomorrow. It's also important to note that while sharing a similar name, MicroLED is in many ways different from current LED, so it's not a proven that it will be able to carry all the advantages of LED and negate the disadvantages. It should mind you.I have no doubt that LCD will eventually kill OLED, it will match it in contrast and blacks while destroying it in every other regard.
LG have a lineup of Mini LED sets this year too. "QNED"
So 2021 to be the battle of Mini LED? Is it finally happening?
Hope it works out and can come in small sizes. Computer monitors really need a revolution and considering OLED burn-in, it won't come from that technology.
Yea but Mini LED is an in between until Micro LED can become affordable after it finally releases.Isnt MiniLED just how the backgroundlight works? (no / less booming and higher brighness)
instead of just having 30 light zones we have now 2500+??
IMO MicroLED is the TV tech we should be most exited about. The true OLED successor without the burn ins + higher brightness
Once Micro LED hits the mainstream but you're talking probably in another 6 - 8 years.I have no doubt that LCD will eventually kill OLED, it will match it in contrast and blacks while destroying it in every other regard.
It's the worst.edge-lit local dimming it's awful, not good at all. My Lg has it
You'll have a permanent dark spot, obviously.What happens when one of the LEDs dies on you and you're left with a permanent dark spot?
Wow. Nice to see my thread get resurrected. Whats sad is that MicroLED's situation doesn't seem like it's improved and is still a long ways off. Very little I have heard about the tech this past year.
MiniLED could be a nice stop gap, but it's hard to imagine it being preferred over OLED since the price of MiniLED is going to be more expensive the OLED.
So we only know how many zones are in the 86" 8K set - 2500 - is there any part in the official press releases where they actually say they are all independently controlled though?
How many would you guys estimate for the 4K flagship? In 55, 65 and 75, the sizes most people will be buying.
I reckon 480-~1250 across those sizes, maybe around 1500 if there is an 86" 4K set and only breaking 1500 when you go to the 8K sets. They can't price them higher than the OLEDs surely so I wouldn't be surprised if a count of 2500 zones is really just for the 8K and/or 86" models. It could be a sharp drop off in zone count once you go down to 4K models, since Samsung gubbed their 4K flagship in 2020, LG has no reason to try and make their 4K LCDs any better than that.
I'm so excited to see what Sony have planned, I want to see something really new and exciting, they had great leaps in image processing and BFI in 2018 and 2019 but there hasn't been a properly amazing dimming quality advancement since 2017 imo.
I would guess around 1000 in the 65. Can't see them performing worse than existing FALDs from Samsung. I hope they keep prices competitive.
I am looking forward to micro-LED reaching mainstream. I do want to see the LG QNED at ces this year.
That is the clarity I am waiting for. Just that amazing crystal clear lifelike picture. So I can watch shows filmed on tape in the 80s.
Thought it’s not clear if LG is going to position it higher in price than their OLED lineup. They might be using IPS panels and keep it in the mid range. They don’t want to upset their OLED dominance. Check out the vid.
Can't wait to see what LG and Samsung do this year with mini led
I'm unclear as to whether you need more "mini-LEDs" to give the same brightness/coverage as a "normal" backlight LED.
Like for instance, if it were to compete with Samsungs 2019 Q90R, in terms of zone count, that would mean 240, 320 and 480 zones in 55, 65 and 75 respectively. I wonder if you'd need double or even quadruple the numbers of "miniLEDs" to equal the same dimming performance. 4x would kind of line up with the figures we are estimating, so ~960, ~1280 and ~1820 in the 55, 65 and 75" 4K flagship respectively.
JohnnyFootball The Sony announcement is on the 7th of January btw, I can post the video here if its miniLED related if you like? I'd assume it is since LG and Samsung have "announced" their sets.
LG already said this is inferior to oled and its going to be between nanocell and oled TVs. Why would LG, or anyone else, position the inferior technology above the superior one?
This thread is full of misconceptions and misinformation unfortunately.
LG already said this is inferior to oled and its going to be between nanocell and oled TVs. Why would LG, or anyone else, position the inferior technology above the superior one?
This thread is full of misconceptions and misinformation unfortunately.
Sammy won't go oled I don't think. They are the forefront of micro led and are pushing hard for that. They will be the one company that skips itpretty sure Samsung will switch to OLED this year, or so I heard.
they want to basically switch all over to OLED screens with Quantum Dot layers to enhance color accuracy and brightness.
and after OLED they plan to switch to a 100% Quantum Dot based screen (QDEL)
Sammy won't go oled I don't think. They are the forefront of micro led and are pushing hard for that. They will be the one company that skips it
LG isn't, others like Samsung will. Like I was saying to another poster, check the vid.
I'm not an expert, I'm an enthusiast too. I didn't quote previous posts as they were more than a month old so didn't want to go back to that.No one here is an expert, we're just enthusiasts, if you think you know more then just say it. In this example you've could've just wrote why thats very unlikely, for people that don't know why that would be. You can't learn without making mistakes.
Sammy won't go oled I don't think. They are the forefront of micro led and are pushing hard for that. They will be the one company that skips it
prett sure I saw a news article about Samsung switching first to QD-OLED in 2021 and then in the future (most likel 2025/26) to QDEL
Yes but it's going to take a long time before it's cheap enough to bring to consumers.I’ve got a ks8000 which I’m perfectly happy with.
this gen launch has shown that current tvs with all the latest tech hdmi 2.1 vrr and 120hz just quite isn’t ready yet. I’m waiting until it matures to buy.
is/will micro led be better than Oled?
It's already technically possible if they wanted to. It's just that flashing the backlight at lower rates that 90hz creates a lot of flicker, like the CRT does, and it's training on the eyes so not the best for most consumers. This sacrifices motion clarity for a calmer image. Response time is also kinda possible, if they wanted to, monitors can do it, there is no limit for TV to not do it. It's just what the manufacturers think the market want sadly. Movie experience has been the driving force for TVs but that will hopefully keep improving as many like to game on large TV.How many decades until we reach CRT quality response time and motion resolution?
I'll look. Last I saw was them finally coming to mini LED andprett sure I saw a news article about Samsung switching first to QD-OLED in 2021 and then in the future (most likel 2025/26) to QDEL
Wait when did sony switch from using lg displays to Samsung?Of course Samsung will as currently they're making only LCDs and Mini led is still an lcd technology but much better.
I'm not an expert, I'm an enthusiast too. I didn't quote previous posts as they were more than a month old so didn't want to go back to that.
I've lalready explained why LG won't position mini led tvs above oled.
Sorry if I was rude, I should've phrased it differently. My mistake.
Samsung displays is already making oled displays, namely qd oled which are somewhat different to LG's WOLED but for the common folk they're the same. Samsung electronics, company which makes actual TVs we buy in stores, is resistant to oleds as they've run aggressive anti oled campaigns in the past so they can't back off easily. So for this year Samsung display's qd oleds will be in Sony and other manufacturers TV sets.
Samsung display company and LG display company run independently from Samsung electronics and LG electronics respectively.
And on top of that Samsung and LG are arch rivals in Korea.
As I've written above, we're probably not going to see Samsung oled tvs this year but maybe next year due to aforementioned reasons.
I’ve got a ks8000 which I’m perfectly happy with.
this gen launch has shown that current tvs with all the latest tech hdmi 2.1 vrr and 120hz just quite isn’t ready yet. I’m waiting until it matures to buy.
is/will micro led be better than Oled?
I'll look. Last I saw was them finally coming to mini LED and
Wait when did sony switch from using lg displays to Samsung?
This year or in 2020? Last I read LG was supplying the panels for Sony
Ideally it can be, bar the worst situations for local dimming type displays (star fields). But we’re probably still talking about the higher end Micro LED with 30k LEDs or more, so price could be very high to start with.
is/will micro led be better than Oled?
TCL already makes the 2019 8 series with it but I'm waiting for a more reliable TV OEM to make one.Yup I passed on a new TVs for the last 2 years waiting for mini led.