whyreggielie
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Yuna for sure. First character I thought about when I saw the title.
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Most developed, fleshed out Final Fantasy character?
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The one and only
Delita Heiral.
"All of them swept up in a mighty current, a current they cannot see or feel... I simply swim against it. Nothing more".
My favourite character in the FF series, one that starts from nothing as a puppet of the nobles and reaches the absolute top, only to loose everything as a consequences of having played himself with everyone else.
I don't see him as evil but more of a chaotic neutral antagonist, one for which "the ends justify all means" is the absolute gospel, wether it leads to good or bad outcomes.
1Manipulator, cold, willing to kill everyone for his sake, i still think Ramza is the only one he wouldn't have truly killed, because he was Delita's absolute opposite and as such developed a particular affection for him (on top of their original friendship).
Others are:
-Ramza Beoulve
-Celes Chere
-Terra Brandfrod
-Vivi
King
"All of them swept up in a mighty current, a current they cannot see or feel... I simply swim against it. Nothing more".
My favourite character in the FF series, one that starts from nothing as a puppet of the nobles and reaches the absolute top, only to loose everything as a consequences of having played himself with everyone else.
I don't see him as evil but more of a chaotic neutral antagonist, one for which "the ends justify all means" is the absolute gospel, wether it leads to good or bad outcomes.
1Manipulator, cold, willing to kill everyone for his sake, i still think Ramza is the only one he wouldn't have truly killed, because he was Delita's absolute opposite and as such developed a particular affection for him (on top of their original friendship).
Others are:
-Ramza Beoulve
-Celes Chere
-Terra Brandfrod
-Vivi
Delita is probably my favorite revenge story of all time. Such a good character too in they way he fades in and out of the story.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
How are you not mentioning his love for Ovelia. That's what elevates him above every other "antagonist" or even antihero IMO. That's what makes him unique
and what causes his downfall in the end.
I feel like people aren't arguing that she didn't have any development at all (well some are but let's ignore them). They're arguing that they feel that her development wasn't executed. I've played all three games as well and never felt any connection to Lightning and the other characters (outside of maybe Serah and Noel).
AdmiralMikey
Member
Most developed and fleshed out indeed, ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)
Worldshaker
Member
That's the whole thing about FFVI, it's not the numbers of lines, the complicated story.. like in other games, this man has 2 simple stories, that defines him and his life.
Great choice! I'd have to agree with this one. Celes' story is on par.
Hickbilly Deluxe
Banned
Anyone who doesn't say Ramza or Delita is wrong and should be ashamed.
SoulUnison
Banned
The correct answer is Hope Estheim.
Everybody seems to hate him, but he's my favorite XIII party member and my favorite Black Mage in the entire series.
He's the only party member who seems to really understand and be affected by the ridiculous gravity and hopelessness of the situation they're in, and by the end of the game he's standing up to physical gods alongside everyone else, even though he's terrified.
Everybody seems to hate him, but he's my favorite XIII party member and my favorite Black Mage in the entire series.
He's the only party member who seems to really understand and be affected by the ridiculous gravity and hopelessness of the situation they're in, and by the end of the game he's standing up to physical gods alongside everyone else, even though he's terrified.
SilverArrow20XX
Walks in the Light of the Crystal
He mentions Bartz by name in FFIV: The After Years.
He starts to say it in VIII "Ba...." and also mentions the Interdimensional Rift by name.
The Final Fantasy XIII-2 Ultimania (which are canon) explicitly states that he got his weapons from several other Final Fantasy worlds and lists them by name.
Final Fantasy XIV doesn't flat out say anything about Gilgamesh, but Lightning and Iroha appear from other FF worlds via similar dimensional travel methods.
It's canon.
LordKasual
Banned
If it makes you feel any better, Squall was a little cunt too. It's just that Squall's defining moment was telling an emotionally distressed Quistis to go talk to a wall. Lightning's was telling some frightened kid who's mom just died to fuck off and die alone so she can take care of herself. ( Claire Farron, Guardian Corps. )
But i guess i should go play Lighting Returns...but I probably wont, because i played the demo and facepalmed my nose to pieces every time a cutscene played.
I'll probably break down and play it one day. I played the hell out of XIII-2 and that game's story was horseshit.
NOPE
(holy shit ive been spelling his name wrong this whole time. I thought his name being "LEON" in KH was random.)
(which is funny because i named him "LEON" on my first playthrough in 1999 solely because he reminded me of the RE2 guy.)
(this is a 3-way mindfuck for me)
I mentioned Mihli from XI's Aht Urghan regions
Ayame's at her most interesting when dealing with people who saw her grow up, like her family and and folks that trained her in Norg, since otherwise she tends to be strictly business and exasperation with Naji, again as part of her work duties.
Aphmau had some moments, and Prishe seemed like a staff favorite, but out of the XI "mission girls" Lilisette to me had the more interesting arc, since we got to see a counterpart of her that took far more pragmatic measures, but still got to show a hearfelt emotional core when issues of family came up - that at least to me made up for the recurring "Future Fabulous" stuff she was always spouting. And the devs' masteries of facial expression by then helped.
I do wish they had developed Aldo more though - we see him as a kid in the opening experiencing the war, and by the time we meet him in-game he's become a major figure involved with a crowd of shady reputation - the game IMO is still missing the story of how he got there during the 20 years that separate the opening from the game's events.
Zeid has some pretty interesting issues going on - one of my favorite things about the Rhapsodies ending was how that subtly gave him some closure, showing him reuniting with his Bastok colleagues after being astray for so long.
Ramza and Vivi are the only correct answer.
Lightning is lol. Spends half the game punching people in anger and then runs off to do her own thing? Hell the entire cast of XIII has severe communication problems. TALK TO EACH OTHER DAMMIT.
Lightning is lol. Spends half the game punching people in anger and then runs off to do her own thing? Hell the entire cast of XIII has severe communication problems. TALK TO EACH OTHER DAMMIT.
Not even the true MC of XIII, Vanille is. If only she had a less annoying voice/ridiculous animations.
Vital Tundra
Member
If it's not a character from the tactics series, it's wrong. No seriously, nothing tops characters like Delita and Ramza.
Also this boy just said Lightning! LIGHTNING!
Dude put away the Ff13 boner.
Also this boy just said Lightning! LIGHTNING!
Dude put away the Ff13 boner.
CrimsonSquall
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