Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Ah, thank you. No big loss then.Garcian said:
Does Black Label need to be bought on a J-360 account?
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Mushihimesama Futari 360 Thread of Region and Panties-Free Golden Explosion Shooting
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Does Black Label need to be bought on a J-360 account?
robot said:
Yeah,
They just rereleased it without all the extra brickabrack that the larger package came with. Not sure where you can buy it but I'd try Fujita. Just email them to see what is up. That is where I got mine (scroll way down to the bottom):
http://www.fujitacommunications.com/products.shtml
Is it just me or is this game hard?
This is coming from someone who owns every Cave home release and has been playing Cave games for a good decade now ^^; I'd played Futari in the arcade a few times but only the first 2-3 stages. Stage 4 is impossible for me right now. Usually I do ok in Cave games until the final stage, but Futari just seems damn hard. Either I'm missing something about the gameplay system, or for me personally this is the toughest Cave game I've played. Maybe I've just let my skills rust after playing Death Smiles for so long (which is fairly easy and player friendly for a Cave game).
This is coming from someone who owns every Cave home release and has been playing Cave games for a good decade now ^^; I'd played Futari in the arcade a few times but only the first 2-3 stages. Stage 4 is impossible for me right now. Usually I do ok in Cave games until the final stage, but Futari just seems damn hard. Either I'm missing something about the gameplay system, or for me personally this is the toughest Cave game I've played. Maybe I've just let my skills rust after playing Death Smiles for so long (which is fairly easy and player friendly for a Cave game).
souvlakispacestation
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Maniac is a good challenge, and Ultra is crazy, but Original is pretty easy. Way easier than most Cave games that came before it.
souvlakispacestation said:
Then I must be doing something wrong because I'm playing on Original and by stage 4 it's almost impossible for me.
I can get through Dodonpachi Daioujo, Espgaluda, Esprade, Ibara, Death Smiles no problem. I'm not sure why this seems much more difficult. It seems like the bullets are faster than the usual Cave speed I'm used too and it just seems like there are more bullets from more directions.
Then again I haven't read anything about the gameplay systems in Futari? I've just been playing it like Dodonpachi with standard shot & hold-down for laser. Are there systems that I should know about that make things easier? I didn't really play the original Mushihimesama much because I didn't like it.
iconoclast
Member
Stage 3 usually gives me way more trouble than stage 4 really. There's lots of enemies in stage 4 that will clear all the bullets once you kill them, so just make sure you get on them asap I guess. Other than that you might want to stick with abnormal Palm for 1.5 since he can get through the bosses pretty quickly with his laser. I prefer Reco in Black Label though.
If by "get through" you mean 1CC then it's really strange, Galuda and Rade are surely easier but DOJ is notorious for its insane difficulty, and Ibara is even worse.
But it's very hard to judge, because it really depends on how much time you put into the game and this kind of games in general. As of now, I'd say that Mushi1 Maniac is easier than Futari's Maniac, but adversity said the opposite. About the gameplay, if you don't play for score there's nothing different from the usual Cave fare: shoot, laser, bombs.
But it's very hard to judge, because it really depends on how much time you put into the game and this kind of games in general. As of now, I'd say that Mushi1 Maniac is easier than Futari's Maniac, but adversity said the opposite. About the gameplay, if you don't play for score there's nothing different from the usual Cave fare: shoot, laser, bombs.
Mailenstein
Member
Is it just me, or has the hype been bigger than the game's quality? It's the typical "NeoGAF hype is bigger than the game's worth" game 
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.â Narayan
Member
No. The game is, in fact, fucking awesome.Mailenstein said:Is it just me, or has the hype been bigger than the game's quality? It's the typical "NeoGAF hype is bigger than the game's worth" game
iconoclast
Member
U K Narayan said:
Indeed.
Mailenstein
Member
That's if you are really into all this anime stuff etc., but as for a shooter I've played way better ones :/.U K Narayan said:
Mailenstein said:
Anime stuff? Almost no one is talking about the characters or the story in this thread, 99% of the posts are about the gameplay and how awesome it is. In the bullet hell subgenre, this is one of the best games ever released. If you prefer a more classic style in shooters, fine, but the quality of Mushi is really out of the question.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I can't think of any better shooters at the moment.
Futari is already my favorite Cave shooter(beats ESP Ra De handily) so that just leaves Raizing's offerings.
Actually yeah fuck it this game is better than Raizing's work cause I don't have to worry about rank control just to survive.
So after Cave and Raizing what's left? Okay well there's Treasure but they're a non-factor cause Radiant Silvergun sucks, Gradius 5 is too long, and I just don't like Ikaruga.
Psikyo? Well they're alright I guess but no the only game I really like from them is Sengoku Blade and that's probably for reasons aside from the actual game.
Alfa System and Milestone? Haha fuck them get the hell out.
Seibu Kaibatsu...okay yeah I love Raiden Fighters but sometimes I just prefer the raw intensity that Futari brings. The rest of the Raidens can suck it IMO.
Don't say Irem cause I don't care for R-Type, don't say Konami cause -dius is old and repetitive, definitely forget about Taito cause I can't even play their best shooter(G. Darius).
Still a 1,001 other shooter devs to write-off so instead of wasting more space writing their games off I'm just going to end it here.
EDIT: Just turn the voices off then.
Futari is already my favorite Cave shooter(beats ESP Ra De handily) so that just leaves Raizing's offerings.
Actually yeah fuck it this game is better than Raizing's work cause I don't have to worry about rank control just to survive.
So after Cave and Raizing what's left? Okay well there's Treasure but they're a non-factor cause Radiant Silvergun sucks, Gradius 5 is too long, and I just don't like Ikaruga.
Psikyo? Well they're alright I guess but no the only game I really like from them is Sengoku Blade and that's probably for reasons aside from the actual game.
Alfa System and Milestone? Haha fuck them get the hell out.
Seibu Kaibatsu...okay yeah I love Raiden Fighters but sometimes I just prefer the raw intensity that Futari brings. The rest of the Raidens can suck it IMO.
Don't say Irem cause I don't care for R-Type, don't say Konami cause -dius is old and repetitive, definitely forget about Taito cause I can't even play their best shooter(G. Darius).
Still a 1,001 other shooter devs to write-off so instead of wasting more space writing their games off I'm just going to end it here.
EDIT: Just turn the voices off then.
Mailenstein
Member
It's just my opinion, you know. Different people, different opinions. It's just too much overloaded with girly screaming and shit imho.danmaku said:
â Narayan
Member
Yes. That must be why I enjoy this game, let alone purchased it. Because of all of the anime stuff. Yes. Makes perfect sense.Mailenstein said:
Mailenstein
Member
I didn't say that, but good for you if that makes you buy it.U K Narayan said:
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Mailenstein said:
¿Mailenstein said:
"God's Beard!"
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Just wait. He's going to say Ikaruga, I can feel it.
I have a few questions:
1. How does the scoring system work in 1.5?
2. What does Black Label change? Gameplay mechanics or just scoring mechanics?
Yeah, I think I just need to put more time into. I played DDP & Esp to death and I've only played Futari maybe 5 times in the arcade and 2-3 times at home so far. I think I just need to click with it. Not feeling it right away, probably because I really dislike Mushihimesama and it's my least favorite Cave title. Futari is much better even from the start, but I think it needs to grow on me. Bug theme has never been my thing, I prefer ships or winged people or goth demons.
1. How does the scoring system work in 1.5?
2. What does Black Label change? Gameplay mechanics or just scoring mechanics?
danmaku said:
Yeah, I think I just need to put more time into. I played DDP & Esp to death and I've only played Futari maybe 5 times in the arcade and 2-3 times at home so far. I think I just need to click with it. Not feeling it right away, probably because I really dislike Mushihimesama and it's my least favorite Cave title. Futari is much better even from the start, but I think it needs to grow on me. Bug theme has never been my thing, I prefer ships or winged people or goth demons.
Mailenstein
Member
As for bullet hell shmups, I really love Batsugun and Donpachi. MFv1.5 comes nowhere near those two games imho.
Mailenstein
Member
Who said I did? I just said I've played better games. But judging by your avatar, I've hit there a sensitive spot. The game is just not clicking for me. If I was up to games like this, I could just boot up perfect cherry blossom. Seriously, there are way better shmups.andymcc said:
Mailenstein
Member
You guys just don't get the point. It's not the pink bullets. Why can't you just accept that this overhyped game is not rasing the bar for me at all? Jesus...Dambrosi said:
Never heard of BAPE, huh :lol?Dambrosi said:
adversesolutions
Member
Bebpo said:
1. Check out the op.
2. Mostly scoring mechanics, but Abnormal and Normal Reco and Palm have been combined, so both characters are much stronger, and Reco has options which latch onto things around the screen.
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Re: Mailenstein's intervention, personally I think Mushi Futari is the first shooter in years to really deliver on the hype, thanks to an amazing port by M2, and the gameplay already present in both arcade versions. I suppose Mileage may vary, but geez, Donpachi and Batsugun came out years ago...if you're still content playing those, then maybe you don't need to be buying new shooters at all...?
I would be more understanding if someone leveled this criticism at Dodonpachi Daioujou, which is a hellish game basically unfun for those who don't sit down and accept the beatings to the face directly. If someone said that this doesn't live up to the hype, I can't blame them; I'm not sure why myself I put in enough time to get a decent score and 1CC the thing.
But Mushi is fun the whole way...at least for me. Every mode except for Ultra really. I have a feeling Mailenstein just didn't really understand the scoring system, or couldn't get very far.
Mailenstein
Member
Wow, the game doesn't click for me = stupid to understand scoring aka suck at shmups. Awesome. As I said before - different people, different opinions. Just accept it, thanks.adversesolutions said:
adversesolutions
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Mailenstein said:
Prove me wrong. Post scores.
Mailenstein
Member
You guys are really mature . And I'm not going to start any scorewars, since it wouldn't change anything. Game sucks for me, but rocks for you. Fair enough and no reason to flame. Thanks, kids.
. And I'm not going to start any scorewars, since it wouldn't change anything. Game sucks for me, but rocks for you. Fair enough and no reason to flame. Thanks, kids.adversesolutions
Member
Thought so. Bye.
Mailenstein
Member
Sorry for not taking part at scores you are proud of, sonadversesolutions said:
.Seriously guys, just get over it. It's not like I was insulting anyone. There are ppl that like Mario and some don't. Some like Halo, some don't. Just because my opinion doesn't fit yours, it's no reason to flame someone being a bad shmup gamer :lol.
Ok, after reading how the scoring system works I'm really enjoying the game. I still don't understand why but I do better in Maniac than Original (same thing with the original Mushihimesama). Even though there are more bullets somehow it feels like the bullets themselves are easier? The chaining system is more my style there too.
Is there a post somewhere that lists everyone's gamertags for the leaderboards? I only have like 2 friends on the leaderboards
My nick is Bebpojp
Is there a post somewhere that lists everyone's gamertags for the leaderboards? I only have like 2 friends on the leaderboards
My nick is Bebpojp