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NeoGAF Games of the Year 2009 Awards
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EmCeeGramr
Member
look mister this thread is about super-nerdy crap like complaining that your favorite game isn't high enough, not hyper-nerdy crap like saying you're glad something is low THERE IS A DIFFERENCE*
*not really but still
*not really but still
sm owns and is fun and ur probably bad at video games[/spoils]
edit fucked that up but don't care
edit fucked that up but don't care
i think this thread is pretty much exactly for commenting on the various games and their rankings. The conversation had switched to people discussing Silent Hill's abysmal ranking, which I think is pretty accurate to the quality of the game. GAF got it right, in other words! Bravo GAF.
Hey, at least I purchased it. You guys who actually liked it can't blame me for it not selling, if it didn't sell.
Hey, at least I purchased it. You guys who actually liked it can't blame me for it not selling, if it didn't sell.
EmCeeGramr
Member
i didn't vote for it because i hadn't even played it yet since it came out so late. gaf's gaming media-inspired "QUICK GET THE VOTES IN AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE" tradition screwed it over. I'd have lent it 2 points at least :crycry
anyway you're just upset because you kept looking at all the drug and booze references and the game gave you a bad personality profile. seriously, i laughed at the "ABC's of Drugs" poster at the school and my Harry's response reminded me of something you would say, which is probably indicative of my own psychological problems that i'm glad the game did not comment on
anyway you're just upset because you kept looking at all the drug and booze references and the game gave you a bad personality profile. seriously, i laughed at the "ABC's of Drugs" poster at the school and my Harry's response reminded me of something you would say, which is probably indicative of my own psychological problems that i'm glad the game did not comment on
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
It didn't sell. It's probably your fault since you did purchase it.
If anything, I'm more upset that the game features nothing that has traditionally made a Silent Hill game fun. That obviously biased me a bit up front. But if it was only that, I could admit it was a good game. And I'm not talking about updating the gameplay, because Silent Hill games obviously could stand to get their features polished and to have a stronger foundation. But basically Shattered Memories threw out the baby with the bath water - removing not only what has always made the series flawed, but everything that ever made it good.
To add to that, it added a host of its own issues - from the seriously redundant and irritating chase sequences with had zero fun factor, to the boring to explore ice world, to the admittedly high potential psychological profiling which ended up resulting in a host of surface cosmetic changes and dialogue changes on par with some low level western RPG. It was an extremely shallow result to what could have been an amazing feature.
The controls themselves generally worked pretty well, some of the individual moments in the game were clever (
), but the game design was seriously unappealing. It wasn't just a poor Silent Hill game.
Anyway, I guess this is becoming a little too in-depth a conversation for this topic. I just didn't want to interrupt the circle jerking in the official thread
Hurray!
To add to that, it added a host of its own issues - from the seriously redundant and irritating chase sequences with had zero fun factor, to the boring to explore ice world, to the admittedly high potential psychological profiling which ended up resulting in a host of surface cosmetic changes and dialogue changes on par with some low level western RPG. It was an extremely shallow result to what could have been an amazing feature.
The controls themselves generally worked pretty well, some of the individual moments in the game were clever (
the car flooding being the most memorable
Anyway, I guess this is becoming a little too in-depth a conversation for this topic. I just didn't want to interrupt the circle jerking in the official thread
John Harker said:
Hurray!
SonOfABeep
Banned
Only one I can really argue with is Killzone 2. That game was instantly forgettable.
The list as a whole kinda shows this forum's Sony leanings, but I can't argue. Sony had a good year.
The list as a whole kinda shows this forum's Sony leanings, but I can't argue. Sony had a good year.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
I'm so fucking tired of opening threads and seeing boring, cliche post after post on tangential, mostly off-topic, thread derailing things brought to you by Amirox.
No one else would get away with this shit.
No one else would get away with this shit.
iconoclast
Member
Tain said:
Eh, it was bound to happen since it is likely the most played game on that list by a massive margin. I haven't played enough of S&P2 to decide on its quality, but the rest of the list is how I'd rank them.
S&P2 is pretty awesome though.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Damn I just saw this thread.
UC2 was really the only game that could have taken GOTY. Well deserved.
Great list through and through.
I can't imagine how much time this took you Timetokill(obviously) but thanks for the effort you did a great job.
UC2 was really the only game that could have taken GOTY. Well deserved.
Great list through and through.
I can't imagine how much time this took you Timetokill(obviously) but thanks for the effort you did a great job.
BlazingDarkness said:
That's just a crime! That's why this happened
Code:
64 Half-Minute Hero 15I think it's awesome that KZ2 won best FPS. At least GAF remebered that it came out.
I have to say though that I am not a fan of the voting system this year either. Gives the small games no chance to stand out.
timetokill
Banned
Xater said:
... you're not a fan of small games?
^ That's really cool.
I didn't think there was any other thing to discuss except why one thinks a game should or should not make a list! My mistake for believing it'd be better to provide in-depth commentary on why a game should or shouldn't make a list, instead of ":lol @ KILLZONE 2!!!" or "Suck it Modern Warfare 2 ahhaha!"
Anyway, to summarize, GAF GOTY List is a good list. It made good decisions this year. Demon's Souls should be #1 on all lists, though.
Rez said:
I didn't think there was any other thing to discuss except why one thinks a game should or should not make a list! My mistake for believing it'd be better to provide in-depth commentary on why a game should or shouldn't make a list, instead of ":lol @ KILLZONE 2!!!" or "Suck it Modern Warfare 2 ahhaha!"
Anyway, to summarize, GAF GOTY List is a good list. It made good decisions this year. Demon's Souls should be #1 on all lists, though.
KZObsessed
Member
EviLore said:
WOW that'd be great to see. Hope they do it.
SonOfABeep
Banned
swap Killzone 2 with Silent Hill: SM and I'm happy.
13 year old centric generic dudebro shooter (yeah, I know about the ending, but still) vs the best written story of the year, or at least one of the best.
tough choice :lol Good thing one was a PS3 exclusive.
13 year old centric generic dudebro shooter (yeah, I know about the ending, but still) vs the best written story of the year, or at least one of the best.
tough choice :lol Good thing one was a PS3 exclusive.
timetokill
Banned
That is just way too coolEviLore said:
I guess I don't understand the sentiment, then. A lot of the smaller games stood out this year. This format arguably helped them, actually.Xater said:
Thanks for all the kind words, everyone. It was a lot of fun for me to do!
Good list. Gaf, I approve. Except I'd put shadow complex up a few places (loved that game) and assassin's creed II down a few places (totally didn't get what people saw in that, missions might have been better but controls and stealth mechanics were just as clunky as the first game... just my opinion).
glad kz2 pipped fucking mw2.
glad kz2 pipped fucking mw2.
Miburou said:
singleplayer storyline was awful, hysterically over the top, whereas it was quite good in the first one. contrary to what IW said the AI is still pretty predictable, does the same thing every time. unlimited respawns have just been replaced by hundreds of enemies, not really an improvement there. aside from graphics it generally did not feel particularly improved over cod4. no russian mission was a pathetically desperate attempt at being clever, looked absolutely ridiculous following a fucking snow mobile chase.
multiplayer: overemphasis on kill streaks vs the first one. way too much autoaim for shooting to be satisfying. level design *generally* not as interesting as cod4.
more than anything i think it just feels a little stale.
SonOfABeep
Banned
Miburou said:
succeed at what? the silent hill discussion picked up and I really, really loved that game. It's just a shame that because so few played it compared to that hyped piece of shit killzone, it gets ranked far lower. A real shame.
Lagspike_exe
Member
SonOfABeep said:
When you come to this thread and comment how a meta 90 "hyped pos game" pwned a meta 76 game just because it way hyped, isn't it, I don't know, normal to say at least why the #1 game is a pos and the 2nd one is such a master piece deserving to get #7 overall in a selection of over 200 games?
SolidusDave
Member
ah fuck, I missed the voting
Was it a sticky thread as well? I swear I notice these less :lol
I would have made Afrika game#315 :/
:lol :lol @ the bitter tears of anti-KZ2-people.
Though I'm a bit surprised as well, it sold less than its (partly even multiplatform) competitors, came out in February and had quite some backlash.
Was it a sticky thread as well? I swear I notice these less :lol
I would have made Afrika game#315 :/
:lol :lol @ the bitter tears of anti-KZ2-people.
Though I'm a bit surprised as well, it sold less than its (partly even multiplatform) competitors, came out in February and had quite some backlash.
RedRedSuit
Member
I would've preferred Ass Creed II were a little higher. Granted, I'm not halfway through the game yet, hence I didn't vote for it, but it just keeps getting better.
Other than that, great list. Uncharted 2 was fantastic. Killzone 2 absolutely deserved it, as well.
Other than that, great list. Uncharted 2 was fantastic. Killzone 2 absolutely deserved it, as well.
Lagspike_exe
Member
stupei said:
I didn't play Silent Hill, because, in general, I don't play horror games, so the only way I can compare both games is through press reviews.
SonOfABeep said:
At getting whatever reaction you're looking for by repeating the same thing, except going a step further each time.
You're like "Killzone is forgettable", and then some posts further "hellooo? I said Killzone is for 13 year olds". And finally "Are you people deaf? I think Killzone is a hyped piece of shit". It's just amusing.
DQ5 DS was a bit too low IMO... do people just not like remakes or something? Still funny how a remix of a game from 1992 is more poignant than most of the big budget releases of the year. Also, guess my tastes in RPGs is vastly different from the average GAFfer - Dragon Age looked extremely sterile to me (haven't played it yet, so I'm willing to rescind my opinion when I finally do) and I have never even heard of Torchlight (euro PC game or something)?
Lagspike_exe
Member
djtiesto said:
Donwloadable game, similar to Diablo/Titan Quest. Go buy it.
timetokill
Banned
djtiesto said:
Coming in 34th place isn't bad at all, considering it's a remake of an old game like you said, and it's also a handheld game... handhelds have always gotten a bit less love on GAF, and actually if you look at the awards listing Anihawk posted earlier, there's been a decline over the past few years in votes for handheld games. I think the "new, exciting" feeling has sort of worn off of the DS/PSP stuff and, as a forum for mostly core gamers, tends to favor the bigger console and PC releases.
Also, you'll see that it ended up on the Top 20 in the "High Quality" list, meaning those who voted for it tended to vote for it pretty highly. I think it got quite a bit of respect here.
So again, I think where Dragon Quest V ended up is pretty high and definitely a statement of recommendation from GAF.
velvet_nitemare
Member
Grats to U2, great game.
pslayer666
Member
Best GOTY list this year by far. Kinda bummed I missed the voting.
Also great discussion and loved the number analysis on the data. A lot of hard work has been put into doing this.
Much appreciated!!
Also great discussion and loved the number analysis on the data. A lot of hard work has been put into doing this.
Much appreciated!!
timetokill
Banned
u_neek said:
Ah, that's right, I had it on the list but I see I didn't include it in the final. It got just your 1 point from what I recall. I'll add it back in.
Reginald P. Linux
Banned
Congratulations to the winners! Wish I could have voted, but i'm happy to see some of my favorites right up there
RadarScope1
Member
EviLore said:
Nice. This is the only GOTY list that matters, IMO.
Version 3.0
Member
I'm a tiny bit late (for some reason I'm blind to the sticky threads), but good job, timetokill!