Metalmurphy
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Drive Club isn't a sim.
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Drive Club isn't a sim.
SneakyStephan
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Who gives a shit, it's a videogame they need to get that shit out of it.
Gran Turismo is the only Sim. Forza & Drive Club are not sims.
Syphon Filter
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shots fired?
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Just trolling.
dumb
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Agreed. There is a point where realism becomes a hindrance in a video game.
Unfortunately the whole MS debacle has fried people's brains. It's like anything from MS is meh and jaggies festooned and rubbish, while anything from Sony is absolute gold!
Sure, people have the right to be angry at MS, and yes, even worryingly hateful, but c'mon, enough with the bullshit already and move on...
Pound_lb003
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Anyone actually recognise the guy with Dan Greenawalt at the end? I swear he used to present Gamespot E3 Live showfloors?
Anyone?
EDIT: And he's talking about there only being 250 of those cars in the world. I got overtaken by one the other day in my hometown
I was in awe, looked like a UFO and I got caught behind it in traffic.
Anyone?
EDIT: And he's talking about there only being 250 of those cars in the world. I got overtaken by one the other day in my hometown
I was in awe, looked like a UFO and I got caught behind it in traffic.
SenjutsuSage
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Yeap. Brian Ekberg. He is community manager at T10 (I think for 2 years already).
Pound_lb003
Member
Cool, though I was going mad.
Not just Youtube...
I just... don't know any more
Couldn't have summed it up better. Kudos!
This is probably the best footage out there imo of the recent gamescom/PAX build containing Laguna Seca. Make sure you download the 1080p footage for the best visual quality.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_gc_forza_5_gameplay-14463_en.html
You can form your own conclusions as to how it compares to the Laguna Seca Twitch.tv livestream footage from PAX which is now on YouTube.
*link corrected
Looks great.
phosphor112
Banned
Someone went shitball crazy when I pointed this out when we first saw the Leguna Seca footage.
So rare that we aren't even going to see a complete Forza.
gaming_noob
Member
Single out those posts or it didn't happen.
Lysander518
Banned
Really? It's a sim. Blinding light is a part of real racing and even everyday driving.
idrinkalone
Banned
I would be more worried about the horrible sun/camera flare than the jaggies.
moai
Member
you are gonna be accused of persecution complex and that "this is the most hyperbolic comment i've seen".
They can probably very easily turn those down. They're baked in after all. Jaggies and textures will be more difficult as improvements are costlier resource and performance wise.
ss_lemonade
Member
The game was tearing bad near the top of the screen when I tried it during an xbox one event a day before pax. Old build?
I don't think I've seen as much one sided persecution complex of late as I have at any other point. Were you asleep when it came to posts regarding the initial reveal of DriveClub and Knack?
gaming_noob
Member
It's not "persecution complex" so much as it is 'ignorance'. Could it be that these legitimate complaints are coming from people who don't visit Knack or Driveclub threads? Why yes of course. Stop throwing that mental illness term so sparingly!
phosphor112
Banned
I hear lens flares are realistic for eyes.
To me making such claims without the knowledge or evidence to support them is sort of proof of a persecution complex in itself. In any case, It's a silly point that is often regurgitated from people who are too attached to one side to realise their statements carry no weight or validity.
you can get lens flares through window glass. Just saying it is possible.
phosphor112
Banned
Windshield isn't a lens. You can get glare lines on a windshield, but not that specific flare.
Yikes. And we're talking about Forza being rushed...
Askherserenity
Member
That TV looks like it is in showroom mode. Brightness turned up way too high and color saturation is too high. Plus the green frame around it is causing the video camera's light balance to tend towards the blue end of the spectrum for the TV.
Looking forward to seeing this on my calibrated 60" TV at 1080p/60.
Lmao. Jesus, nice save. The green frame part was really good.
Also, wtf is up with the sun in this game? Jesus. Expecting major headaches while playing.
Iced_Eagle
Member
I played Driveclub today (three hours ago).
That thing is aliasing city.
It seemed to have more stuff going on in the background with the track they had (such as trees and bushes), but even the car's dashboard was aliased to hell, and the painted lane lines on the road were shimmering as they were coming up on you. The powerlines that went around the track weren't even visible because of the heavily aliasing in the distance, whereas that was way lessened in Forza. In my opinion, Forza had way, way better image quality. Car models looked way more realistic, aliasing was nowhere near as noticeable (didn't ask if they used AA or not though), driver hands looked incredible, etc. I've also seen some videos of Forza going through foresty areas, but I didn't get to see that in person, so maybe Forza will be able to match Driveclub in the background effects will still having good IQ.
Regardless, I'll still try out Driveclub PSN+ when I get my PS4 because of course they'll be improving the game up to launch, but with the 5 minutes of hands on time I've had with the games, I've decided Forza is getting my money this November.
What save? I'm not wrong. That video was terrible.
Go to Gamersyde for decent videos. 60fps, too.
NullPointer
Member
Sounds like messed up priorities at this stage. I won't have much if any tolerance for jaggies in the finished product, but for god's sake the road being visually clear and crisp is equal to if not more important than the cars.
I would also add the shadows and shadow resolution/filtering and mapping on car as something that still will clear up.
I mean, ok, realtime and such, but it needs some working otherwise the "realistic" effect is kind of spoiled.
still, both racing games are work in progress, and both being launch games etc, it is only reasonable to expect up to the very last minute rubbing and polishing etc 8)
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Drive club certainly has more trees and plant life than Forza 5 but car-wise and road-wise, Forza 5 has Drive club beat in the graphics department. It's also cool that Drive-club has dynamic lighting but Forza's feels more realistic given its focus on the limited time-of-day lighting scheme. That said, its silly to compare these two. A more apt comparison would be Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 if that ever comes out.
not if horizon continues to be an open-road racing game.
driveclub most valid comparison right now will be with the new nfs.
MrCookiepants
Member
Laguna Seca was an eyesore in FM4 and they managed to make it even worse from the looks of things. Hideous overuse of lens flare. The aliasing is disappointing too.
The only impressive thing about this game is the metallic paint shader.
The only impressive thing about this game is the metallic paint shader.
well, depends what you are looking at.
for example, look at this
http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_forza_motorsport_5_gc_gameplay_2-30618_en.html
reality is that they ADDED a lot of stuff in laguna seca going from forza 4 to forza 5
Metalmurphy
Member
I would also add the shadows and shadow resolution/filtering and mapping on car as something that still will clear up.
I mean, ok, realtime and such, but it needs some working otherwise the "realistic" effect is kind of spoiled.
still, both racing games are work in progress, and both being launch games etc, it is only reasonable to expect up to the very last minute rubbing and polishing etc 8)
What exactly is wrong with those shadows? You're getting all the branches and leaves being cast, that's exactly how I would expect them to look.
You should take a good look at those trees.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
You're right! Up till now, I was under the impression that it was. Now this just makes me wonder if we'll ever get a Burnout Paradise 2? :'(
EDIT: Driveclub only seemed impressive when I thought it was open-world... I'm a little bit (just a smidge) less impressed now :3
velociraptor
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After being so impressed with the Prague videos, this looks horrible. The visuals look like they've taken a hit. Good to hear about the heavy focus on the driving model and the physics engine though - I have always preferred Forza's driving model compared to GT, and this is coming from someone who exclusively buys GT games because they're GT games.
Barkley's Justice
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Arm animations look horrible and "puppety"
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