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New Gunda-- Warhawk debate thread (aka DoomBringer melts)
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Doom_Bringer
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You guys have to realize that Incognito has never made a good looking game...I mean look at this
They don't know graphics and shouldn't be compared to the likes of Factor 5.
They don't know graphics and shouldn't be compared to the likes of Factor 5.
How can you make that broad statement without seeing the actual game? Warhawk has all of that and more (and improves upon all of those aspects).
They've really only shown us that island and the sea and there are very few real shots out there. Also, there are over 75 individual crafts on screen in this shot and we can assume there are more in the area. That's pretty many, I think. Finding them all in some giant pack like that early shot isn't likely for gameplay reasons, but it seems that the engine could handle it. There's nothing unrealistic about that old shot and I think the current engine could easily handle it.
I disagree. Twisted Metal Black, for instance, looks poor in media...but in person, it's impressive. The particle are insane, the worlds are massive and detailed, the framerate is 60, the game just looks awesome.
Doom_Bringer
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dark10x said:
I have seen the HD vids many times. The game has static geometry, no dynamic lighting, low poly enemies, and weak explosions. The only good thing about Warhawk are the clouds and the water THATS IT!!! 75 low poly enemy don't do squat for me
dark10x said:
I have TMB and I think it looks like crap. Vigilate 8 on DC is a better playing game and it looks better as welll
Doom_Bringer said:
There are no volumetric clouds in RS. And it's not like you can land and get out of your x-wing at anytime like one can just park the Warhawk and start running around. Warhawk is more of a sandbox game, not to mention Warhawk supports 32 players multiplayer while RS does not.
Can't wait to see Lair in-game though.
They aren't low poly and the environments are not static.Doom_Bringer said:
What's that? A building blowing up? Considering that all of their PS2 titles had environments that could be destroyed...it's not suprising.
Oh, and yeah, that's not a great shot...but you can see that there is a lot of geometry in those structures for such a large, open world. They didn't just use flat walls all over, but rather, actually modeled the buildings with real detail.
You're officially insane. V8 looks HORRIBLE on the DC, has tons of slowdown, and plays like shit. TMB is the best car combat game ever made.
Doom_Bringer
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Bad_Boy said:
YES HUNDEREDS OF LOW POLY ENEMIES THAT LOOK LIKE INSECTS. HOLY ITS ACE COMBAT 4 ALL OVER AGAIN
Doom_Bringer
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kaching said:
I beat Twisted Metal Black multiple times and I don't think it looks good at all...even at 60 FPS the controls are irresponsive
Funky Papa
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Every time Doom_Bringer talks about graphics shit happens. It's like gift, he can't control it!
Show me ONE screen with even 50 enemies on screen at once in AC4.Doom_Bringer said:
They AREN'T low poly either.
I can't even believe you are a real poster anymore. You shouldn't hijack Doom_Bringer's account, whoever you are, as you are giving him a bad name.
Did you even play the real game? The controls are ultra responsive (and it's unresponsive, by the way, not irresponsive). It's V8 that has incredibly bogus controls.
What are you smoking?
Doom_Bringer
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dark10x said:What's that? A building blowing up? Considering that all of their PS2 titles had environments that could be destroyed...it's not suprising.
Oh, and yeah, that's not a great shot...but you can see that there is a lot of geometry in those structures for such a large, open world. They didn't just use flat walls all over, but rather, actually modeled the buildings with real detail.
You're officially insane. V8 looks HORRIBLE on the DC, has tons of slowdown, and plays like shit. TMB is the best car combat game ever made.
Red Faction had destructible environments too....Sorry but Warhawk just screams "I AM A UPGRADED PS2 PORT" to me. I have a feeling that the game was in development for PS2 then moved to PS3. Show me a battleship crashing into the ground and taking out buildings or show me a battleship crashing in the ocean and creating massive waves...now that would be next gen. The screen you posted above is not next gen..weak smoke effects, hardly any debris, piss poor firecracker explosion! Is this next gen :lol
And Vigilante 8 rocks! It destroys Twisted Metal balck and its shitty controls
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Doom_Bringer said:
okay im not even going to touch the graphics arguements with a ten foot pole, but i need to second the V8 comment.. the only car combat game ive ever had a considerable amount of fun with.
Doom_Bringer
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dark10x said:
What I meant was that AC4 has tiny little enemies with low details. The game is exactly like Warhawk. You have a highly detailed plane with selfshadowing and the rest of the planes in the game are low poly...Warhawk is exactly the same.
No its me DB
I had to play the game with cheats because of the controls. V8 was a lot of fun on both PSX and DC
Doom_Bringer
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meltpotato said:
yeah the school bus was awesome! I don't know what gaffers have against Vigilante 8
Doom_Bringer
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dark10x said:
I was just saying that it has destructible environments...how about u comment on the rest of my previous post smart ass?
Doom_Bringer
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jett said:
Replace nice with barren.
How about you realize what I was responding to originally, huh? You said 'The game has static geometry' and I said, no it doesn't. Then you go off about Red Faction?Doom_Bringer said:
You are COMPLETELY ignorant on the subject of visuals. I'd tell you to stop, but this is fairly entertaining.
Doom_Bringer said:
Doom Bringer said:
You mean the, Red Faction has destructible environments, ergo Warhawk that also has destructible environments is an upgraded port of a PS2 game line of logic?
Yeah, if it wasn't so hilarious of a comment, you'd probably be banned on the grounds of sheer idiocy.
BlueTsunami
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Doom_Bringer always had that touch of insanity, its just now that its really bubbled over
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Doom_Bringer
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dark10x said:How about you realize what I was responding to originally, huh? You said 'The game has static geometry' and I said, no it doesn't. Then you go off about Red Faction?
You are COMPLETELY ignorant on the subject of visuals. I'd tell you to stop, but this is fairly entertaining.
Screw all of you seriously. I don't see what you guys see in Warhawk. It is not a huge leap over RS, Yager or Crimson Skies. It doesn't have any next gen fx like motion blur, depth of field, or any post processing effects. The physics suck, the geometry is mostly static with the exception of a few buildings and radio towers and even those are accompanied by PS2 like firecracker explosions. The on foot segment is also pathetic.
Incognito sucks at graphics. THE END
I can't wait until videos and screens from the mainland in Warhawk. I am tired of seeing that little island and all the spectacular looking water.
This game (Warhawk) will rule co-op with friends. Remember that it will have 4 player split screen too and that all 4 can join a 32 player mp game.
This game (Warhawk) will rule co-op with friends. Remember that it will have 4 player split screen too and that all 4 can join a 32 player mp game.
:lol :lolduckroll said:This is the wrong thread to talk about Gundam, but here, you can have some of my popcorn. I bought extra.
I think hes going to hurt himself or somthing. That "screw the world" mentality cant be good for the brain. Maybe we went too far. It's all my fault, i should of never mentioned warhawk.Doom_Bringer said: