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New Nintendo hardware confirmed.
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ShockingAlberto
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GBA SP hit in Japan in February 2003, America a month later.DeathbyVolcano said:
DS hit in November of 2004.
So a little less than two years.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
ShockingAlberto said:
That's...exactly my point. DSi came out last April...we can assume that the rumors are pointing to a end of year release for another handheld...what's so out of the ordinary?
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
i'm not shouting it, i'm just kinda. . . mumbling it
ds successor
ds successor
ds successor
ds successor
Grampa Simpson
Banned
I think I know how it would be accomplished... Double the horizontal resolution, and then have an overlay that restricts each eye to viewing either even or odd columns dependent on the viewing angle. They've used them in those image changing cards for years. I just hadn't been aware of anyone applying it to LCD displays before. That would provide a rather shitty viewing angle too. Might be appropriate for a handheld, but could cause problems due to how close the LCD is to the user.ShockingAlberto said:
ShockingAlberto
Member
Well, I wasn't really arguing so much as showing that he said "It hasn't even been a year" and presenting the facts, but I will say the GBA/DS situation is incredibly different from the DS/DS2 situation.DeathbyVolcano said:
DeathbyVolcano said:
You'd do well to realize that the DS is not a Gameboy successor but just fell into the role (Nintendo had a GB succesor that was cancelled when the DS took off). That's where people get hung up on these rumors. It's unfathomable to most to think new hardware outside of those two are possible, and yet as far as any of these rumors go it's the most likely scenario.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Is it though? The Game Boy platform was still very successful before the DS was even announced, all revisions included. I don't think it's prudent, when dealing with Nintendo, to base all your assumptions on their future business decisions off of how healthy a product is.
DeathbyVolcano said:
As I recall (correct me if I'm wrong), the Micro was basically created for NOA, who didn't want to stop selling the GBA.
NOA's current position is that they don't want to stop selling the DS Lite.
So basically, putting out a totally new handheld platform at this point means NOA gets caught out two systems behind.
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's not a matter of GBA's health at the time, but GBA's presumed health in the face of competition. Nintendo correctly assumed that the PSP was a GBA but better in every way. They had to release something else to compete.DeathbyVolcano said:
Is the PSP2 going to be a DS but better in every way? It would be stunningly stupid of Nintendo to show their hand first.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
I don't think Nintendo needs to worry too much about Sony's handheld decisions, based on their recent, erm, ventures in the handheld market. Might as well be more concerned about Apple, to be honest.
Andronicus
Banned
penis heartbeat sensor that looks like a vagina, bookmark this you heard it here first
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
Watch it be a phone that you can use whenever you are by an internet hotspot for free and has some games on it too.
Black-Wind said:
Go ahead and blurt out your idea's...there's some of us open for speculation anytime! I've actually been blasted on this forum for doing it too much, especially with my portable/console hybrid (AKA 3RD Pillar) ideas...which seem to be having a following now.
I'm not against a next-gen DS, in fact, I believe it would come before any form of a "Wii HD" would...plus it's more needed. It's just I don't think it's coming as soon as most are saying.
The PokeMon "evidence" is sorta, meh...they may just be assuring people with the current DS (and potential current DS buyers) that the next PokeMon is coming to it and not to the next DS. That doesn't rule out DS's successor coming out near then either. I think the next PokeMon would actually coincide near the launch of the next DS even though it's for the current DS. That way they get more money from the huge base of current DS owners while capitalizing on the obvious "Next DS" exclussive features like they did with past big-time handheld transitional titles.
Onto the "next" Wii...
I think it's a ways off (not this year). Think about the following 2 strategies...
#1- Half-Assed Mid-Gen Bump Super Wii HD + 2 Electric Boogaloo Pachter Edition
Okay, so let's say this potentially PS360-level Wii comes this year...in the face of PS360, it's going to look desperate and too soon. Natal & Arc make it more difficult in this strategy 'cos to get the "maximum effect" with them you just have to buy those peripherals for their established systems, to get the "maximum effect" with Nintendo you'd have to buy this whole new system that won't be established (starting over) and thusly could greatly backfire in a multitude of ways including current Wii owners who're basically forced to re-investing in a new system which could in turn cause them to go with one of the more established HD twins instead. You can talk of a Wii HD coming soon being "preimptive" but the bulk of the Wii userbase (being new buyers) will see the Wii brand as something they have to upgrade every two or three years which isn't a good investment when the PS360 have much longer lifespans as a result. And let's face the facts, even a full-scale Wii HD dream machine would still NOT be on-level with the more established HD twins...it just wouldn't. Then, Nintendo is put in the same red ocean possition again when they have to play catch up to PS4/X720 once they come out (which can now be sooner since the market leader decided to cut this generation short allowing the competition to do likewise).
#2- What Actually Should Happen
Nintendo is market leader, there's no real pressure on them to have to add HD, that's not what the Wii has been about anyways, otherwise it wouldn't (still) be doing so well. They are established as the new control scheme/motion controls/casual destination, Natal/Arc are reactions from the competition. Vitality Sensor will be Nintendo's way of raising the bar before the competition even gets there. When Natal/Arc/3D all fail to reach the mass appeal that Wii has garnered then Sony/MS will be forced to move into next generation that much sooner to try to uphend Nintendo as market leader...THEN...that's when Nintendo should release thier next console, in line, so it's not brick-walling the current Wii's (and it's users) until then. Doing so any sooner may give them a "head start" in one way, but it could potentially mean the competition can copy whatever innovations the next Wii might have...we all know Nintendo is secretive like that, they're also not one's to start a new generation first, especially when they're the market leader. In the mean time until this "next" Wii comes out next generation they can leave the consumers wanting more (HD) while also keeping the competion guessing what else they'll do until then.
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Back to my portable/console next-gen DS 3RD Pillar idea...it potentially could satisfy lot's of different market needs by itself even before a stop-gap mid-gen Wii HD would be needed. That is if the next DS will have a Tegra2 powered/HDMI output design.
VGChampion
Member
It's going to be the return of the Gameboy. They will have the DS for cartridge / new games, Wii for console, and Gameboy for Virtual Console that plays all the old Gameboy games that has a slot that can play any Gameboy cartridge.
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GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
OMG, Nintendo has an active R&D division? Mind = Blown
perfectchaos007
Member
GrotesqueBeauty said:
I know right? With all the success of the Wii and DS, I thought Nintendo wouldn't worry about trying to develop anything new.
Black-Wind
Member
Sorry but things arnt that simple.ShockingAlberto said:
Theres a Pokemon movie featuring these new 5th gen Pokemon taht people still don't know that comes out in a matter of months. Got to promote that because thats gonna promote the games.
And if the game is gonna come out in Japan sometime this year they are gonna need people to know about it. So yeah . . . I think its in their best interest to promote this game with or with out DS2 being known of if its DS2 exclusive AND if DS2 is soon to be revealed. They would simply lay off showing screens and vids and rely on Pokemon reveals if it looks like something DS can't do.
Its not really a "conspiracy" at all. :/
Dash Kappei
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VGChampion said:
The Gameboy Advance then?
Cool.
Two GBAs duct-taped together or just one will do?
PhatPhucGabe
Banned
And the fanboys would still tell everyone it is the greatest thing ever created and anyone who isn't interested in it doesn't know how to have fun.Dogenzaka said:
Nir3m3diados
Banned
If miyamoto is talking that means they are ready to announce it to the public
they are always working in a new system, I hope is not nintendo next console system, but the new ds or portable device.
they are always working in a new system, I hope is not nintendo next console system, but the new ds or portable device.
ShockingAlberto
Member
WhatBlack-Wind said:
Lucario was revealed in early 2004, a month or two after Fire Red and Leaf Green came out. They didn't say it was a GBA game, they just said it was for the next Pokemon generation.
So they're doing it differently now because ????
Nir3m3diados
Banned
I read that Ubisoft talked about it, and even THQ, first I thought it was just a rumor but since Miyamoto is talking it is coming this year or next one.
This means UBI and THQ are working already for it.
I like this strategy since some people think it is Ipod strategy but it not since they released the DS XL.
Microphone and Sony got to worry about Nintendo.
Since nintendo is the leader and leads the way of gaming industry.
This means UBI and THQ are working already for it.
I like this strategy since some people think it is Ipod strategy but it not since they released the DS XL.
Microphone and Sony got to worry about Nintendo.
Since nintendo is the leader and leads the way of gaming industry.
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MikeE21286
Member
no shit they're making new hardware....the question is when is it coming out, not if it's coming out.
Night_Trekker
Member
PhatPhucGabe said:
You know what they say about glass houses, don't you?
Black-Wind
Member
Because the game is coming out this year, the movie SHOWING the next gen of Pokemon is coming out at the half point of this year and its important to gather hype for it (the game).ShockingAlberto said:
The 4th gen came out in 2006 . . . 2 years into the DS's life and 2 years after the 7th Pokemon movie which featured the first known 4th gen Pokemon (Mucnhlax) was out which was months after the DS was revealed (Jan-20/2004). There was NO reason to say the 4th gen was GBA . . . the DS was revealed before the first 4th pokemon was and 2 years before they were gonna release the games.
I do believe this is the first time the first new gen Pokemon has been revealed for a new gen the exact same year the game comes out.
Shit is already crazy, which is why some people STILL don't think this is the 5th gen.
V
Vilix
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Deku said:
That's quite small actually.
Eteric Rice
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Err, wouldn't Tegra be backwards compatible with the DS? They could release a Pokemon game and release a new handheld at a later date.
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Vilix
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Instro said:
Not sure about MS, but my guess is that Sony has spent billions into the R&D of the Cell processor.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
And what do you expect from a junior who's username appears to be based on a bannable meme?Night_Trekker said:
IsntChrisL
Member
Wii games look worse by comparison each year. I want it to be the Wii successor because of that, alone. It's likely another handheld though.
abstract alien
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What a pointless "news" story. Who in tarnations didn't know this? :lol
AceBandage
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abstract alien said:
Apparently, 1Up.
MattyGrovesOrMe
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It's a future-gen, HD console built in collaboration with Microsoft, XWii 720, the result of a massive shadow campaign to dethrone Sony started in the late 1990s.
The plan was to build two fronts on which to fight the PlayStation brand, then surprise the competition by combining fronts after both were strong enough. Nintendo "threw" the GC generation so the Xbox 1 could get a toehold in the market, but now that the X360 and Wii are market leaders, the time for their Voltron-like amalgamation is upon us.
Proof is in the pudding.
The plan was to build two fronts on which to fight the PlayStation brand, then surprise the competition by combining fronts after both were strong enough. Nintendo "threw" the GC generation so the Xbox 1 could get a toehold in the market, but now that the X360 and Wii are market leaders, the time for their Voltron-like amalgamation is upon us.
Proof is in the pudding.
AceBandage
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People always say the proof is in the pudding, but no one ever provides said pudding.
Nir3m3diados
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That is a big insult, that is just a picture, besides Nintendo is the leader in the market xbox360 is not, and ps3 is catching up.MattyGrovesOrMe said:It's a future-gen, HD console built in collaboration with Microsoft, XWii 720, the result of a massive shadow campaign to dethrone Sony started in the late 1990s.
The plan was to build two fronts on which to fight the PlayStation brand, then surprise the competition by combining fronts after both were strong enough. Nintendo "threw" the GC generation so the Xbox 1 could get a toehold in the market, but now that the X360 and Wii are market leaders, the time for their Voltron-like amalgamation is upon us.
Proof is in the pudding.
Microsoft wanted to buy nintendo lol, and even sega but both said "no"
and then they came out with their video game system, proving that just with money they can have a gaming machine without any knowledge about gaming
To this day m$ still has money in nintendo
I hope they never buy nintendo, M$ sucks Ubuntu linux will beat them one day.
MattyGrovesOrMe
Member
I kinda think the picture of Bill Gates shaking Yamauchi's hand is akin to a tasty dessert of some sort.AceBandage said:
ryūkotsusei
Member
MattyGrovesOrMe said:
The reliability of a Nintendo console and an online experience of the 360. That would be nice. What event is that image from?
When was this? I don't remember - is there an article?Nir3m3diados said:
AceBandage
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MattyGrovesOrMe said:
Aged Nerd Cheese Cake?
FullMetal said:
I think that was the 1998 StoneCutters retreat.