Oh my god, no. Not even close to being comparable.
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NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
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Oh my god, no. Not even close to being comparable.
KH2 wasn't really finished (hell the versions NA JP EU are different).
So I always consider KH2FM when I talk about it.
Nier Automata isn't anywhere near KH2FM's gameplay, no. But not many games are.
The variety of the enemies, all your abilities, combos, movement abilities, the dozens of boss battles that are all unique and have tons of ways to approach... KH2FM is really one of a kind.
Can't wait for 60 fps on ps4.
Nier is a pretty cool game, and I like it quite a bit actually, but I really can't bring myself to say this is one of the best Action RPG I played, if that makes sense. It's missing too much on that front.
I'm gonna end up just watching it online. Can't get a 360 in time before it comes out.
It's a masterpiece ;__; You have to experience it.
Dont worry about it. You didn't have to play drakengard to understand Nier either. In the same way you dont have to know anything about Nier to understand the story of Automata
Only us obsessed Yoko taro nerds need apply
The game is perfectly accessible to those 'out of the loop' as it were.KH2 wasn't really finished (hell the versions NA JP EU are different).
So I always consider KH2FM when I talk about it.
Nier Automata isn't anywhere near KH2FM's gameplay, no. But not many games are.
The variety of the enemies, all your abilities, combos, movement abilities, the dozens of boss battles that are all unique and have tons of ways to approach... KH2FM is really one of a kind.
Can't wait for 60 fps on ps4.
Nier is a pretty cool game, and I like it quite a bit actually, but I really can't bring myself to say this is one of the best Action RPG I played, if that makes sense. It's missing too much on that front.
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°. But whyyyyyKain-Nosgoth
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posted the same question earlier, someone say you got it
by fishing
Kain-Nosgoth
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Dont worry about it. You didn't have to play drakengard to understand Nier either. In the same way you dont have to know anything about Nier to understand the story of Automata
Only us obsessed Yoko taro nerds need apply
well to be fair, there's way more thing linked to the first nier! Yeah it's not necessary but you will not understand the impact of some sidequest and characters
EDIT : whoops, sorry for the two post!
that's just as well since those things are not exactly pertinent
TissueBox
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Character action is still a bit barebones yeah, though progression is decent and customizable enough. RPG elements are strong and Nier-esque + open-world, if you don't mind the simplicity. But like others have stated it's sort of stuck in the middle in a way and without the advantage of any one standout quality (in the ARPG department). It is a bit too 'simple' in respects, but thankfully if you're the kind of person that can endure that you'll find a game that eventually surpasses the sum of its parts (to repeat an earlier post), I really think that. You know how it is with these games.
Yeah they said they found it at the (late-first playthrough location spoiler!)
-- which is the last zone you unlock in the first playthrough iirc. Haven't tried it though.
Yeah they said they found it at the (late-first playthrough location spoiler!)
flooded city
It's a really unique experience. If you have a feeling you'll like Nier, you're really missing out on not playing it since there's really nothing like it. The perfect example of more than the sum of its parts.
it seems like some people were expecting bayonetta or DMC level combat when we knew going in that they intentionally stripped it down to be a better platinum esque version of the original action RPG Nier game as opposed to a full on platinum action game experience
Well, people did predict this happening if I recall correctly.
predict some being disappointed? I dont get it tho since we've known about it for a long while
its still better than most action RPG combat, even though its not as comprehensive as usual Platinum efforts are being straight action titles
Dont worry about it. You didn't have to play drakengard to understand Nier either. In the same way you dont have to know anything about Nier to understand the story of Automata
Only us obsessed Yoko taro nerds need apply
I get that but the more I read the more I wish I'd played it forever ago. Too late now I guess though.
XANDER CAGE
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People going in expecting/demanding something exactly as complex and deep mechanically as Bayonetta or whatever will be disappointed, but this isn't even trying to be anything close to that. It'd probably be worse if it was, frankly.
who knows, the book has not closed on a remaster at some point
I would not go back to last gen to try and play it tho if you havent alreadyBasically, at least along the lines of Platinum fans probably being disappointed.
Now that I think about it, this is actually my first Platinum game D:
BRSxIgnition
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Yeah, because while many of us come from enjoying NieR and appreciating Platinum's expertise, many more came from Platinum, expecting their usual depth/etc.
That's just not what NieR: Automata aims to be, in the end.
Best bet if you can't/don't have the time to play the games now is to watch the Clemps series linked in the OP. He's putting out the third part in the NieR analysis sometime before March 7th.
Kain-Nosgoth
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why is it your first platinum game? You should be ashamed :3
Just never happened I guess. I played Viewtiful Joe though!
Oh, I guess I played the Transformer one for free, but it didn't appeal to me at all. As for Bayonetta...
I don't have an excuse, I'm sorry.
Well it should not be a problem for you since your not expecting anything. This game's combat surpasses most game combat even so, your gonna have fun
Yep, I was aware of Platinum being capable of at least that much, so I was sold from Day 1.
TissueBox
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Yep and frankly that's the thing, that this is not the next DMC or Bayonetta, but the next Nier with elements of that courtesy of Platinum. Sure I still think the game has a technical blemish or two but many aspects of it are still robust, especially in the context of the first. At the end of the day the soul of the game lies elsewhere. Platinum is its surface but inside it's Taro, which is still a miraculous combo. I mean the game could've gone with much worse lol. The fact this exists is still impossible to not appreciate.
Yu Narukami
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I was watching clamps recap stated in the OP and when it got interesting I noticed there is no final part for Nier! I want to know how it ends. His vids are really good.
Kain-Nosgoth
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that's okay, you'll do it someday, i forgive you child! As for myself i never played Shenmue, so there's that too (i intend to, i'll do them both when 3 is released)
ULTROS!
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I'll say that this is a much more polished NieR 1 game. Think of it as a better NieR game rather than a crazy mechanically deep Platinum game because... that's not what it's supposed to be.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I finally figured out the black dot on the minimap near the
- it's
. I've tried shooting it, jumping on it, spamming O at it from every angle, but nothing happens.
Is this a later in the game or NG+ thing? Or am I missing something obvious?
PS sorry for spamming the thread with inane questions
wrecked goliath
the goliath's head
Is this a later in the game or NG+ thing? Or am I missing something obvious?
PS sorry for spamming the thread with inane questions
Thanks I'll take a look.
I lowkey just want a Switch remaster if possible.
well said. still by far the most comprehensive and technically polished Yoko taro in existence and i think that goes with no exaggeration.
fighting adam in the copied city while going back and forth with him about the merits of the human race that no longer exists just brings me the feels on another level that only fighting shadowlord and the grotesqueries gave me
its about
10 hours for the first run, but you have to use different characters afterward and make different choices to actually complete the game, it should take you 20+ atleast to get to completion
Kain-Nosgoth
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I finally figured out the black dot on the minimap near the- it'swrecked goliath. I've tried shooting it, jumping on it, spamming O at it from every angle, but nothing happens.the goliath's head
Is this a later in the game or NG+ thing? Or am I missing something obvious?
PS sorry for spamming the thread with inane questions
you're supposed check his head with O, there should be a prompt! can do it really early! Maybe you missed this quest and are too far in the main story now, it's not available anymore?
I see, thanks!
KO Traveling Hobo
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A target shows up like I can interact with it, but I can't find a spot where it will let me ;_;
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
there's a small road piece that goes up, just in front of the head, try there!
TissueBox
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Oh that, I triggered the quest by going a bit in front of it (specifically by a slab of protruding ground) and then that started a mini-cutscene. Unless you did that already?
Kain-Nosgoth
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Maybe it's just yoko taro trolling... like
these golden machine
i'm not sure you can reach level 60 (a quest that i beat while lvl 30) in the first playthrough (dunno i you keep your level in the next playthrough)
XANDER CAGE
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The central hub area is pretty empty, but you travel through it quickly and also open up shortcuts as the game goes on. The mission areas are much more detailed and a lot of fun to explore. There's stuff hidden everywhere.
KH2 wasn't really finished (hell the versions NA JP EU are different).
So I always consider KH2FM when I talk about it.
Nier Automata isn't anywhere near KH2FM's gameplay, no. But not many games are.
The variety of the enemies, all your abilities, combos, movement abilities, the dozens of boss battles that are all unique and have tons of ways to approach... KH2FM is really one of a kind.
Can't wait for 60 fps on ps4.
Nier is a pretty cool game, and I like it quite a bit actually, but I really can't bring myself to say this is one of the best Action RPG I played, if that makes sense. It's missing too much on that front.
Not gonna lie, I can see myself skipping Nier for 60fps KH2FM.
SixMachine
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I see some people streaming english copies, did some people get early copies or are stores selling it early? My amazon says the game will be shipped to me in March, I was contemplating on canceling it for the pc version but it hasn't even shown up on steam yet for preorder.
They're not streaming english copies, they imported/ordered those copies since English is included with those releases (the release date in Asia already hit). Thus, people are playing them in English before the game releases in the West.
SixMachine
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Kain-Nosgoth
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Let's just be clear, the normal ps4 version runs like shit in the open world (almost never at 60 fps)! I'm playing on it and it's in a really sad state... I still enjoy it, but i will definitely rebuy it on steam on sales to play it at a steady 60 fps