Reminds me of Razor's Edge at times. :b
Res drops I can handle.
Now try the same one with gore on and let us know what happens.
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Ninja Gaiden 2+ |OT| The Feel of Ninja Gaiden 2
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Reminds me of Razor's Edge at times. :b
Res drops I can handle.
Now try the same one with gore on and let us know what happens.
leatherhat
Member
Its hard to compare youtube to real life (plus different missions) but my tag mission seemed smoother, there were some real harsh drops in that one. So at least from that it seems gore off does improve frame rate.
leatherhat
Member
Played the same mission with gore on and it did seem worse
Indeed, which I didn't find tolerable at all. One of the worst framerates I've ever experienced in an action game.
Anybody have a comparable single player vid up?
mullet2000
Member
Same guy as the tag mission one has one up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEmMY8tjUyc
Looks a lot better than tag mode.
DR2K
Banned
Makes TTT2 4 screen character res look like a high end PC game.
1. Nice of them to include the DLC bonus outfits free with the digital game, even if it is for a limited time.
2. Single player looks acceptable, tag mode much less so.
3. Enabling gore makes the game run worse and it isn't even really that much gore.
4. Probably going to pass on this one and wait for it to hit PS+ IGC.
2. Single player looks acceptable, tag mode much less so.
3. Enabling gore makes the game run worse and it isn't even really that much gore.
4. Probably going to pass on this one and wait for it to hit PS+ IGC.
Are the 3 new costumes you're talking about the same ones Gamestop was offering as a pre-order bonus? If so, that's pretty lame for people who bought from GS and didn't get the codes.
As soon as I got through the initial building areas and outside to the area with the Sakura trees, which coincidentally is the same areas as the first tag level, the game went to shit again.
Tried another tag stage and it was a little better, but still had a lot of slowdown issues. The resolution is also noticeably worse in tag mode.
There definitely seems to be a major problem with multiple enemies on certain parts of the stages.
Tried another tag stage and it was a little better, but still had a lot of slowdown issues. The resolution is also noticeably worse in tag mode.
There definitely seems to be a major problem with multiple enemies on certain parts of the stages.
Interesting.
Maybe Hayashi was on to something when he replaced it with purple mist. :b
That's nice. Might pick this up digitally if I like the retail version.
Didn't that area cause problems in Σ2 as well?
Thanks for the impressions by the way.
leatherhat
Member
Bosses run really well as far as I've seen
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
Game feels slower than the first, the games graphics seem to down grade themselves during a lot of on screen action. And my DLC code doesn't work!
But other then that I cant complain. I have the first game and the second game, and razors edge on my Wii U so im set!
But other then that I cant complain. I have the first game and the second game, and razors edge on my Wii U so im set!
OMG I am going blind as I near 40. I'm one of the biggest advocates of 60 fps for fast action games, proudly own a 144 hz monitor, have played a lot of Σ Plus since it came out on Playstation Plus... and have not once noticed it only runs at 30 fps. Despite the fact that I have also been playing NG3: Razors Edge or whatever on the Wii U, which I believe does run at 60 and should have made the low fps on Vita even more obvious. Shoot me now.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
So is the single player campaign okay in this, at least on par with NGS+?
I keep hearing massive framerate drops, like a slideshow. But is that only in Tag Mode?
I keep hearing massive framerate drops, like a slideshow. But is that only in Tag Mode?
OMG I am going blind as I near 40. I'm one of the biggest advocates of 60 fps for fast action games, proudly own a 144 hz monitor, have played a lot of Σ Plus since it came out on Playstation Plus... and have not once noticed it only runs at 30 fps. Despite the fact that I have also been playing NG3: Razors Edge or whatever on the Wii U, which I believe does run at 60 and should have made the low fps on Vita even more obvious. Shoot me now.
RE only kind of runs at 60fps, haha.
RE only kind of runs at 60fps, haha.
Oh man, I just saw the other posts dogging RE's framerate also. What are you guys going to tell me next, that Skyward Sword isn't HD or something? Looks good to me...
Michael "24 fps is cinematic" King, aka Tygertrip
mullet2000
Member
Hey guys, just wanted to chime in here.
I just bought the game and played the first tag mission, and even with the gore on because I forgot to turn it off first. It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't as bad as the video in this post:
I just did the first mission again with the gore off and yeah, it got another performance boost, though it still wasn't perfect.
I don't know if it's because i'm playing the PSN version or not (could that happen in comparison to retail?) but i'm at least getting a bit better than this video. Can anyone else with the PSN version chime in as well on this?
I just bought the game and played the first tag mission, and even with the gore on because I forgot to turn it off first. It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't as bad as the video in this post:
I just did the first mission again with the gore off and yeah, it got another performance boost, though it still wasn't perfect.
I don't know if it's because i'm playing the PSN version or not (could that happen in comparison to retail?) but i'm at least getting a bit better than this video. Can anyone else with the PSN version chime in as well on this?
rockman zx
Member
I will get the game tomorrow but all this info is a big let down
I guess they failed.....again.
I guess they failed.....again.
Well, I was looking forward to playing it on a handheld, but with all these issues I'm just going to wait for it to be on PS+.
lordchompy
Member
It doesn't seem to be unplayable, at least based on the few youtube videos up.
It is no surprise that the game runs a bit worse than Sigma +, because while that game was essentially an Xbox game, this is a full-on, current gen port.
Some may forget, but Sigma + had slowdowns below 30fps too, yet it was very enjoyable.
It is no surprise that the game runs a bit worse than Sigma +, because while that game was essentially an Xbox game, this is a full-on, current gen port.
Some may forget, but Sigma + had slowdowns below 30fps too, yet it was very enjoyable.
I finished the first and second tag missions with and without gore.
With gore they were unplayable, the framerate was really, really bad.
Without gore (you get the purple mist) they were fine at best.
Story mode (first 2 chapters) is also like tag missions with/without gore but with better performance.
Dynamic resolution is annoying and it becomes really bad for few seconds sometimes.
I'm having fun but I was hoping for something near NGS+ in performance.
Any news about Japanese voices ?
With gore they were unplayable, the framerate was really, really bad.
Without gore (you get the purple mist) they were fine at best.
Story mode (first 2 chapters) is also like tag missions with/without gore but with better performance.
Dynamic resolution is annoying and it becomes really bad for few seconds sometimes.
I'm having fun but I was hoping for something near NGS+ in performance.
Any news about Japanese voices ?
No news about Japanese voices yet. It currently seems like they aren't in for some reason.
When you say framerate, do you mean the action goes in slow motion like Ninja Gaiden 2's infamous stairway or are you talking about the framerate itself getting choppy?
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Welp. Guess I stick to vanilla ng2 and won't play it on the tram etc.
Say what you want about Itagaki, but quality got a huge drop when he left. At least for Ninja Gaiden.
Say what you want about Itagaki, but quality got a huge drop when he left. At least for Ninja Gaiden.
Yes, or online lag in co-op. XD
It becomes better without gore, though.
Speaking of which, when you turn gore "off", does it just remove the blood effect or replace it with purple mist?
EDIT: Oh, already answered. Derp on my part. :/
Another inferior version ? Vita can probably handle this game at 60 FPS if it was ported by a competent team.
I haven't played a NG game since the original Sigma on PS3, which was my first NG game ever. I've beaten it on Ninja Dog difficulty since Normal mode was pretty much awful thanks to the broken camera. I don't mind challenging games but I found NGS just cheap in many ways.
I was kinda interested in this port since I heard NGS2 was less difficult than the first, but now I'm totally skipping it.
I haven't played a NG game since the original Sigma on PS3, which was my first NG game ever. I've beaten it on Ninja Dog difficulty since Normal mode was pretty much awful thanks to the broken camera. I don't mind challenging games but I found NGS just cheap in many ways.
I was kinda interested in this port since I heard NGS2 was less difficult than the first, but now I'm totally skipping it.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Is the framerate pretty good in the single player? With or without gore? Is it at least pretty consistent like NGS+?
I saw the IGN gameplay trailer and it looked really good. That's got to be bullshots, right?
mullet2000
Member
Yeah, I think people have unrealistic expectations of the Vita sometimes.
Makes one wonder if Razor's Edge Plus will be possible.
If they do port it, it may perform worse, and online will likely be dropped (since disabling the Wi-Fi apparently allows the Vita to overclock the GPU, which NGΣ Plus, NGΣ2+, ACIII:L and Oddworld:SW make use of).
Most of the time it's good with gore and pretty good without it, but don't expect it to be as good as NGS+.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Ok. Thanks. As long as it doesn't slow to a crawl like a slideshow and the game is beatable, than I'll be good.
May want to pick it up then.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Makes me wonder if we get ++ versions of both sigmas on PS4. :>
Wouldn't mind a good fixed version with a stable 60fps of ng2.
Wouldn't mind a good fixed version with a stable 60fps of ng2.
the androgyne
Member
5 new vids including stairs
I really wanted to avoid the FPS arguments and just enjoy the game regardless but damn, some of the scenes really are crawling.
Most don't even seem particularly graphically rich or poly heavy either.
Hope it's not enough to deter me from playing through when i get it.
I really wanted to avoid the FPS arguments and just enjoy the game regardless but damn, some of the scenes really are crawling.
Most don't even seem particularly graphically rich or poly heavy either.
Hope it's not enough to deter me from playing through when i get it.
Since both NGS are the only beat'em up games you can find on Vita right now, I guess it's pretty much useless arguing either way. Vita is less powerful than PS3, I know that. But it's powerful enough to run some demanding games. I'm pretty sure the Vita could handle DMC4 @60 FPS in native resolution. Maybe it's just me, but NGS2 on PS3 doesn't really look more demanding than DMC4 to me.
But unless a developer release a similar game, with better or similar graphics and a 60 FPS (even unlocked) framerate on Vita, I won't argue anymore because it's pointless.
AcceptableGhost
Member
This looks literally unplayable.
Chance Hale
Member
The textures are so awful, what happened :/ I find Sigma Plus to be the most impressive game on the vita in a lot of ways but that just looks terrible. The framerate just splutters constantly too, what a disappointment.
Damn, which I could cancel this but it's already shipped. Game looks fucking terrible. Ugly visuals, choppy framerate, and other problems. What a mess. How did this get so much worse than Sigma+? I know NG2 is a more demanding game, but come on...
Sonic Transformed is sluggish on 3DS? Ran pretty well on Vita, I thought (similar to the console iterations with slowdown in many of the same places).It's really, really BAD. I can't decide which game is ruined worse by the horrible frame rate- this or Sonic Transformed on 3DS.
This is terrible. Definitely passing on it. Geez.
I have it on 360 and Vita; the framerate issues on those versions doesn't bother me at all. When I tried the 3DS demo, it was a sluggish, slowdown-filled mess that never appeared to even go as high as 30 FPS. No idea what happened there.