JB-the-Hunter
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That's easy to say as a random user on NeoGAF.
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netgrimoire
Member
It was confirmed during the latest direct.
With the Direct airing at 8am in the morning lmao
I seriously LOLd
It's not. But coupled with it not hitting E3 something feels off/wrong. Like the NX is encountering some sort of development hiccups at least.
Orniletter
Banned
So, is it ahead of Double Dash ?
JB-the-Hunter
Member
Nintendo makes people crazy.
They confirmed they would "TALK ABOUT IT" in 2016.
Edit: Oh wait, you're talking about Zelda. I should have looked at the comment you replied to. I thought you were talking about the NX.
they could have had some decent momentum going from wii u to nx with a november 2016 launch
instead, wii u for the second half of 2016 is doing to be dry as FUCK and once again nintendo leads into their new console with zero momentum. i can't even imagine how low the holiday sales will be for wii u this year.
this is so insane.
instead, wii u for the second half of 2016 is doing to be dry as FUCK and once again nintendo leads into their new console with zero momentum. i can't even imagine how low the holiday sales will be for wii u this year.
this is so insane.
I love the received wisdom that you absolutely have to launch a new console for the holidays.
Yet, the same people will say it's also a huge mistake to launch a console before it's ready.
Because I'm sure the NX could be ready for Holiday 2016, and Nintendo is holding it back because they just fucking feel like it.
Yet, the same people will say it's also a huge mistake to launch a console before it's ready.
Because I'm sure the NX could be ready for Holiday 2016, and Nintendo is holding it back because they just fucking feel like it.
I'd be fine with all of these to be honest. The NX Skipping E3? That is some dumb shizz.
Oh hey it's not the worst selling entry to the series as expected lol.
I guess they see the Wii U as fucked anyway and they know that no matter what shit they pull on their consumers, they will still bend over and take whatever Nintendo gives them.
Fixed.
To be factually accurate, a decade and a half. PS2 launched in March 2000 in Japan, missing the New Year sales rush of 1999, and was pushed to October 2000 for North America.
This is without mentioning that this generation saw a staggered launch of PS4 that pushed its release past the holiday period in that region, as well.
To do it globally? Yeah, that hasn't been heard of since... well, ever?
SinCityAssassin
Member
Can't rush it like last time.
Let's put it another way, without being armchair analysts :
It's a fucking delay and it fucking sucks, especially when the the fucking WiiU doesn't have a damn game coming for the whole goddamn rest of the year.
they did not rush the wii u out nor would they be rushing the nx out
they didn't announce didley shit for 3ds or wii u at last years e3. their big first party teams have to be working on SOMETHING.
missing the holiday is just hurting them, less so the consumer (we're just a bunch of impatient fanboys). there's a reason why so many major consumer products are released in september to november...
serenewarfare
Banned
Yeah, Zelda was confirmed for 2016 the last time they showed it.
And I call bullshit on the idea that nine months is too early. PS4 had its reveal nine months prior to launch and it's doing just fine and has been from the jump.
Captain Europe
Member
Holy shit, I came in this thread for hype and Zelda March 2017 hit me right in the feelz... man that hurt!
No NX at E3 is super weird.
No NX at E3 is super weird.
-Mutsukki-
Member
From another thread, seems like NX might have it's own event: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202003117&postcount=690
It makes plenty of sense, they either
A: believe E3 is past its time and won't affect anything
B: Are not aiming for hardcore gamers
C: Are going to hold their own massive events
D: They don't want NX to be thought of as a console because its cross tech (Phone etc)
E: Don't want to be over shadowed by rivials at E3 again
Or any combination of the above, considering how Nintendo have been completely shat on for the last decade at E3 its easy to see why it may not be worth the trouble.
A press event at their own show will get more press than E3 if E3 2014 is anything to go by, they had the best show but the press hardly even mentioned them or treehouse coverage.
So people should buy Nintendo consoles when they are sure it is successful enough to release their biggest announced titles on? They are sitting on Zelda, holding it captive to give their next console a boost. The Last Guardian is a completely different situation, they could release Zelda at any point but refuse to due to deservedly poor wii u sales.
My guess is their "radical" new design/plan is simply not coming to fruition as quickly as they want, and they were forced to push the NX launch into 2017. This could be in regards to NX launch games, third party support, the new gimmick not working properly yet, not being able to produce enough consoles to satisfy a 2016 release, or anything -- launching a new console is a huge undertaking, and it only takes one issue to stall the whole process. If we can all see how disastrous this holiday season will be for Nintendo, the company and its pocketbook are certainly aware of it. It can't be a 100% choice on their part to skip the holidays.
I also think the e3 news is disappointing, but might not be a big deal in the end; if a Nintendo Direct hits a month after e3 with an NX blowout, would you really be that shocked?
I also think the e3 news is disappointing, but might not be a big deal in the end; if a Nintendo Direct hits a month after e3 with an NX blowout, would you really be that shocked?
If it's not ready, who is that on? Nintendo. It's their business to be ready when they should be.
you do remember wii u was announced in june 2011 and released in november 2012, right?
there was no rush. it's not like they were pumping out wii games in the meantime. nintendo is just incompetent sometimes.
Azure Dream
Member
At one point Miyamoto and Aonuma were swearing up and down, on video, it was absolutely coming out in 2015. Along with Star Fox.
So, yeah. 2016 was the "delayed" date already.
Dagobert Duck
Member
I think it has beaten Double Dash last time we had numbers. Dunno if it has beaten another in the series after that though.
Perhaps they were afraid to pull another Wii U launch again? Meaning, releasing the console and then going through 6 months of game droughts that even the CEO has to apologize for the lack of games. If that's the case then let's hope that releasing the system in March means they will have a strong launch lineup to follow through 2017.
GustyGardens
Banned
There could be a number of reasons they're holding out for a couple of months. The main thing could be that there's just too much shit coming out. Sony has seemingly got the end of the year covered.
Maybe this thing just wasn't ready. They could have rushed it with another bad launch, or take their time with it. They're missing Holiday 2016, but come Holiday 2017 they'll have a good line up of games and bundles to sell. Then there's also the Summer months when folks have a more free time.
Launching in the spring has worked for their handhelds. I'm excited to see how this goes.
serenewarfare
Banned
Even if the reasoning is that it isn't ready, that still reflects badly on Nintendo that their internal planning and development couldn't get the console ready in time for a holiday launch.
It's not as if the idea that a console should be launched in the holiday season is some internet myth. Every console since the Saturn has launched in the September-November timeframe in NA, and there's a reason for that.
People are overestimating E3 significance. Yeah this is NeoGAF where it's the biggest thing in the world but your average joe don't care. In a era of internet and fast spread of information you can have your own show like Nintendo Direct which gets the same coverage from all the biggest gaming sites.
Nintendo decided that they don't wanna play with the rules. They do this their own way. Maybe it fails maybe it's a success. Who knows. I don't so I just have to wait.
This year will be pretty bad but it's not the first time in Nintendo's history. 2012 was another pretty bad year even though we got new console back then. But didn't change a thing because the games weren't there. We had to wait like 8 months before finally Pikmin 3 came out being the first notable good game.
So I'm completely fine with NX and Zelda launching in 2017. But only IF this means that this time we'll get a good first year lineup. Otherwise I don't understand why they would skip the holiday season. They need to have a good launch or they will lose.
Nintendo decided that they don't wanna play with the rules. They do this their own way. Maybe it fails maybe it's a success. Who knows. I don't so I just have to wait.
This year will be pretty bad but it's not the first time in Nintendo's history. 2012 was another pretty bad year even though we got new console back then. But didn't change a thing because the games weren't there. We had to wait like 8 months before finally Pikmin 3 came out being the first notable good game.
So I'm completely fine with NX and Zelda launching in 2017. But only IF this means that this time we'll get a good first year lineup. Otherwise I don't understand why they would skip the holiday season. They need to have a good launch or they will lose.
So Space World returns then, basically. Interesting.
I agree that the Wii U wasn't really rushed. At best a delay would have just allowed it a stronger launch lineup. The reason it didn't do well has to do with flaws that exist at the core design of the console.
That being said, I think delaying a console if it needs to be delayed is a good decision. This is very important, Nintendo needs to not rush it. It's more the "not being shown at E3," part that has me worried. Either there are issues with the console's development (maybe just something minor like latency issues that means that they can't show it off, but still), or Nintendo is definitely adopting a "keep your fans in the dark about most of your upcoming releases," strategy when it comes to showing off their game and consoles.
That being said, I think delaying a console if it needs to be delayed is a good decision. This is very important, Nintendo needs to not rush it. It's more the "not being shown at E3," part that has me worried. Either there are issues with the console's development (maybe just something minor like latency issues that means that they can't show it off, but still), or Nintendo is definitely adopting a "keep your fans in the dark about most of your upcoming releases," strategy when it comes to showing off their game and consoles.
Poimandres
Member
Come on man, no need to be hyperbolic! The Wii U has like 3 games coming for the rest of the year. Get excite!
Silent_Ocarina
Member
This is what I find most intriguing about it all.
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
Perhaps we will find out tomorrow during the results briefing.BUT WHEN!
HandsomeCharles
Member
Erm... yes. If you want to play a game that isn't out yet and you buy the console prior to it's release then you are taking a gamble and have no ground to stand on to complain if that game gets delayed/cancelled. Why is that hard to understand?
You (as a consumer) should only buy a console if there are games on it that you want to play right now. You lose literally nothing by waiting. If anything, you make gains due to price drops or bundles appearing.
GustyGardens
Banned
Don't worry, in the morning you're going to see a thread like, "Can Nintendo survive a holiday without NX?"
