It's not certain if they've implemented the code to put other players into your game though. You could just spend 50 hours trying to meet up with someone and never be able to interact with them. They've been coy about persistence and the ability to interact with other players. Didn't they say even if you saw another player you won't be able to tell they are a player?
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It's not certain if they've implemented the code to put other players into your game though. You could just spend 50 hours trying to meet up with someone and never be able to interact with them. They've been coy about persistence and the ability to interact with other players. Didn't they say even if you saw another player you won't be able to tell they are a player?
im glad other ppl realise this.
cus i was being told i was dishing out misinformation.
Icyflamez96
Member
Sean said one of the ways to figure out how you look like would be someone seeing you and telling you. He'd also talk about the possibility of seeing someone flying in a ship and not realizing it's a real player.
Cymbal Head
Banned
Let's say you have a friend in Pakistan, and you're telling them about the US. Your friend asks, "if I immigrate to the United States, could I be struck by lightning while collecting my Powerball jackpot winnings?"
If your answer is "you sure can, buddy!" you're being irresponsibly misleading.
A proper answer requires a contextualizing the sheer unlikelihood of such a thing happening, and a warning that if you want to try for it, you're going to be going to a lot of effort to ultimately disappoint yourself. There might be good reasons to immigrate to the US, but that isn't one of them.
The most honest answer is that it's theoretically possible, but practically impossible.
If your answer is "you sure can, buddy!" you're being irresponsibly misleading.
A proper answer requires a contextualizing the sheer unlikelihood of such a thing happening, and a warning that if you want to try for it, you're going to be going to a lot of effort to ultimately disappoint yourself. There might be good reasons to immigrate to the US, but that isn't one of them.
The most honest answer is that it's theoretically possible, but practically impossible.
Icyflamez96
Member
Only for coming across a random person. Coordinating to meet in the same place in NMS isn't random or based on chance. It's entirely methodical, unlike the scenario you presented.
Cymbal Head
Banned
You're right. It's more akin to a pair of intelligent earthworms digging their way to one another from opposite sides of Russia. And then getting hit by lightning.
Look I just like lightning strikes in my analogies.
habithipster
Member
I find this quote intriguing:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/24/ask-sean-murray-anything-about-no-mans-sky?page=2
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/24/ask-sean-murray-anything-about-no-mans-sky?page=2
Icyflamez96
Member
i like lightning as much as the next guy but that's just no good
I actually hate lightning
Yeah someone posted that a month or two ago. Brilliant.
Karspankey
Banned
Thanks for that IGN link! I was wondering last night if we could bookmark and set waypoints to planets!
Yes but it doesn't really matter which planet you're put on or how it looks if you're going to be interacting with it the same way every time. We've seen the gameplay mechanics of the game. You walk around procedurally generated planets and gather resources.
The market has had 10 billion games in this genre over the past few years. When human hands aren't putting together the content, the chances of it being boring go up exponentially. This isn't the case of you being so enlightened that you can see the possibilities of the game where others can't. You're optimistic that caves generated by a computer will have fascinating lore to uncover and I'm pessimistic of that being the case.
The game is almost certainly a 100% single player game also, in a genre that has benefited greatly from being able to play with friends. This is why everybody is shitting their pants about a tiny potential chance of being able to find other real people so long as some effort is put in.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
You get sent back to the start where you meet yourself but struggle to communicate 'danger ahead' because you materialised as a large pineapple.
Icyflamez96
Member
Anyone else feel like that 10% life rule has been changed to some extent? How unlikely was it that this guy didn't start on a completely barren planet? All of the pre-release footage we've seen definitely doesn't convey 10% 90% rule, so I wonder if Sean just decided to alter it at some point.
I agree with you, this is a post I made elsewhere:
The big problem with procedural games like this is that you may think that the exploration will be fun, but the problem is that nothing actually DOES anything.
Yes, things may look different but they will all behave the exact same and work the same and do the same things.
You'll never come across something really amazing happening that makes you go "woah" because it's all the simplest AI.
You might see a cool looking monster but all it does is walk around the same way as all other monsters.
You might find a place that looks cool but nothing ever happens there.
So once you have seen all the mechanics at work, you have seen the entire game and nothing will ever surprise you anymore.
That's the problem with procedural generation:
scripted/handcrafted > procedural every time
You probably get trapped in your daughter's bookcase spread across time.
LiquidSword
Member
I like this theory
im not entirely sure what just happened but i read your comment as dead serious for a second i dnt think i have been more confused lol.
so i have a question or 3 i dnt think has been answered but im pretty sure the answer is no.
could there be Quasars or pulsars?
are there binary stars/ black holes?
can i fly into a sun,,,, just for the lol'z
worm holes?
Vincent Grayson
Member
If I had to guess, they probably make sure you don't start on an empty, completely lifeless world. Bad first impressions and all.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
We have no context based on what Sean considers 'barren'.
More_Badass
Member
That quest blurb makes me think of The Swapper and its Watchers. Maybe those Monoliths are sentient. Calling to you. Hacking into your suit and telling you to find them
bananafactory
Banned
The wait for this is becoming unbearable.
Need some more leaked screens or something
Need some more leaked screens or something
dripdripsplash
Member
Really ? Are you able to do that for any possible friend on my friends list ? Too see what their route is for example ?
That's hella cool.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
You got the reference though, right?
We have portal hubs like this. Perhaps black holes send you to different galaxies and these send you different planets in the same galaxy:
Icyflamez96
Member
I don't know about seeing their whole route.
i mentioned this a few pages back.as i pointed out im my sumation of the 10%-90% at which i proved im retared.
like 10% of 18q is still 1q .. thats such a huge number on its own but then you compare it to the number of possible planets and my brain melts because even tho that number is so big, its tiny in comparison.
i said i wouldn't be surprised if that number was bumped even a little within a few weeks
Stunning.
legacyzero
Banned
I was about to get pissed at the terrible image quality. Then I saw it was an Imgur link.
Scared the fuck out of me LOL
ScatheZombie
Member
This isn't true at all. That may be your personal opinion based on your own personal preference for developer-generated content... but it isn't universally true in design. Emergent content and gameplay has always been more interesting and had more longevity than tailor-made experiences - outside of a handful of the best-of-the-best narrative exceptions. You can't compare something like No Man's Sky to something like The Last of Us and say that the former is lacking in engaging lore and story - because 99% of games would also fail that comparison, regardless of their content generation methodology.
Plus, Bethesda has repeatedly proven that content 'put together with human hands' can still be derivative and boring.
i did indeed
i was just pondering if they may be in the game, im a huge space nerd and i think im playing the game for a different reason than the majority (im the type of tit that will try and manually fly to the next planet) most of my time will be spent in space just looking at it.
Yeah i would think thats a fair guess.
im happy we are starved of info but at the same time... i just .... i need to know.
You got the reference though, right?
We have portal hubs like this. Perhaps black holes send you to different galaxies and these send you different planets in the same galaxy:
The artwork is simply outstanding.
Vincent Grayson
Member
That and the actual universe we live in is itself not made with human hands (and arguably, is procedurally generated), yet is still full of incredible things that we value for their beauty.
You sadly can't compare the complexity and thereby achievable beauty of the randomness of real life to a game that has to run on PS4 hardware procedurally generating content.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Maybe you can't. I can do it just fine.
Cymbal Head
Banned
I think you've got this right. I think once people dive into the game and see the practicalities of distance and travel in the universe, a lot of the talk of going out to meet up with your mates will dry up. "Some effort" is a stellar mass worth of understatement.
Although I'm sure there will be a small number of dedicated players out there who might pull it off, I won't expect to see it until the game has been out for quite some time.
O......k then
Cymbal Head
Banned
Not sure about pulsars/quasars.
I think I read something about binary systems, and IIRC Sean confirmed black holes in an interview.
I'd guess that flying too close to a star will just fry your ship.
I think the portals that warp you around are the equivalent of wormholes.
yeahhhh buddy. i remember him saying aboot blk holes and im sure he confirmed binary aswell but id need to go and find it to be sure.
yeah its guna kill me but it has to be done... how close is too close lol.
yeah those portals were just mentioned.
Man, get outta here Klyka you goddamn troll
I remember arguing with you 5 months ago when you were trying to convince everyone that The Division was the second coming of jesus. We all know how that turned out. Your opinions on games suck, and all you're doing is shitting on everyone else's genuine excitement and hype for this game. That makes you a bad person. Let them make up their own damn minds and let them experience the game how they want to experience it. You aren't the fuckin video game general who lays down ground rules about which games can be enjoyed and to what extent they can be enjoyed. You don't like NMS? That's totally cool with me, but why are you still here acting like a thorn in everyone's side? Go away
I don't, as well as the whole MP talk thing, for at least two reasons
1) It's not what the game is, or was meant to be. Ever.
2) Putting any form of mp (or any major featire really) behind finishing the game would be akin to giving people the rope they woudl use to hang you. Basically admitting the feature exists, is in game, but locked behing 30-40hours of what many people would then consider "grind".
The outcry would be so huge that HG would be forced to unlock the MP feature within days, a month at most.
So... I rather hope not.
Cymbal Head
Banned
Can you name your ship?
I really want to name my ship.
I really want to name my ship.
dripdripsplash
Member
Jesus.
Can we relax a bit. Just a week to go. Take a deep breath everyone and remember: no matter the hype, it's JUST a video game.
Never argued that, just always answered things with facts about the game, as I have always done, but ok.
So,sure, go ahead and argue that a game's procedual generation has the complexity of REAL LIFE.
All good, not my problem.
yes and no... "ships are discoveries so you can name what you discover if you find a class of ship before other you can name it that way and it will be called that for everyone else who gets one"
Sangetsu-II
Member
You can interact with plants by pressing square and getting carbon to recharge the multitool, it's in the video too. You won't break the game, you'll just have to look harder until you recharge your multitool
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