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NPR: Bernie Sanders staying in the race 'Until The Last Vote Is Cast'

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If he wants to stay in, fine. He has zero chance of winning but he is more than free to stay in. The attacks on Clinton right now are especially shitty not because she is the clear and that he is now handing soundbites to Donald but because he said he was above petty attacks at the start of his campaign when in practice he was clearly not.
 
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Adaren

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Bronx-Man said:
Looks like Hillary's fighting a two-front war for the next month. Yikes.
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The extra obnoxious thing is that Hillary is caught in the middle, to the left of Trump and the right of Bernie, making it hard for her to convey her platform cohesively.

She could absolutely dismantle Trump by talking about global warming / affordable college / the minimum wage / LGBT rights / gun violence / women's issues / voting rights / worker's rights. Many of those issues aren't even on the GOP's radar. Trump would crumple.

Instead, Bernie's going to harassing her with his bullshit evidence-less conspiracy theories that are impossible to disprove ("You can't prove that she never promised Wall Street that she'd screw over the working class!"), distracting from the massive differences between her and Trump.
 
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Wiz said:
What Trump makes up for in Independents and Never-Hillary Bernie Voters, he will lose big time in every other demographic.

But that's another discussion. I'm just wondering what Bernie's rhetoric will be going forward...keep attacking Hillary? Or just do his own thing off to the side? Or maybe even start attacking Trump more often, since he already has the Republican nomination won?

So many timelines
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We've yet to see Trump aggressively go after Hillary, and aggressively pursue a bipartisan tone. If he turns out he's good at both, then the narrow victory path begins.

But yeah if he still tries to come off as hard right on everything even beyond a Hillary victory, then he'll lose, but not by much because i'm sure his campaign is already aware that there's a chance of swaying Bernie voters.
 
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Orbis Tabula

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I'll also add that I think fears of his attacks damaging Clinton in the general are overblown. He should have dropped out a month ago, he didn't, and attacked her instead. She doesn't seem too damaged by it. I can't imagine another month doing her in. She knows it, too. That's why she ignored Indiana.
 
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nib95 said:
That's because it became mathematically impossible for Cruz to win, whereas that isn't the case with Bernie yet. But of course if you want to draw silly parallels to suit your favoured narrative, so be it.
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Uh Hasent it been mathematically impossible for sanders for months now?
 
Kite

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lol Bernie has convinced me that the Democrats do not need our own version of the Tea Party nutters, cut their asses out asap.
 
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eu pfhor ia

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yeah, good

hopefully he starts expanding the issues he's talking about. Less about Wall Street, more about the mil-industrial complex (not that WS and MIC are mutually exclusive issues) and the insanity that is the discussion of US foreign policy in mainstream media. He has been pretty weak on this so far, I think. He has a difficult line to walk, though, between pointing out the failures of democrats on these kind of things and the absolute disaster of republicans.
 
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soundahfekz

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Just stop the negative and shit no one will have an issue with staying in.

Hillary's the captain now though, the race is effectively over.
 
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hydragonwarrior said:
We've yet to see Trump aggressively go after Hillary, and aggressively pursue a bipartisan tone. If he turns out he's good at both, then the narrow victory path begins.

But yeah if he still tries to come off as hard right on everything even beyond a Hillary victory, then he'll lose, but not by much because i'm sure his campaign is already aware that there's a chance of swaying Bernie voters.
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Well, he's had a good month to flip the script and present himself as Presedential©, and we've seen how well that's turned out.
 
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Netherscourge

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Good.

I'm not ready for the full-blown Liberal vs. Conservative-Authoritarian showdown yet.

It's only Spring for goodness sakes.

Trump vs. Hillary is best left for mid-to-late summer.
 
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eu pfhor ia said:
yeah, good

hopefully he starts expanding the issues he's talking about. Less about Wall Street, more about the mil-industrial complex (not that WS and MIC are mutually exclusive issues) and the insanity that is the discussion of US foreign policy in mainstream media. He has been pretty weak on this so far, I think. He has a difficult line to walk, though, between pointing out the failures of democrats on these kind of things and the absolute disaster of republicans.
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He doesn't care about foreign policy at all. That's why he's weak on it.
 
davepoobond

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i wouldnt be surprised if Trump sings the high praises of Bernie for the next 2 months. He attacks Clinton's credibility and can also recruit a lot of Sanders' working class voters who don't feel at home with Clinton at the same time.
 
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davepoobond said:
i wouldnt be surprised if Trump sings the high praises of Bernie for the next 2 months. He attacks Clinton's credibility and can also recruit a lot of Sanders' working class voters who don't feel at home with Clinton at the same time.
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Trump's already shouted out Bernie a few times.
 
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alr1ght

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davepoobond said:
i wouldnt be surprised if Trump sings the high praises of Bernie for the next 2 months. He attacks Clinton's credibility and can also recruit a lot of Sanders' working class voters who don't feel at home with Clinton at the same time.
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That's exactly what he will be doing. It won't just be confined to twitter posts either.
 
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eu pfhor ia

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Kusagari said:
He doesn't care about foreign policy at all. That's why he's weak on it.
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and what does that mean? Why has he called out Hillary on the Iraq war, PATRIOT act, Libya, etc, if he "doesn't care"? By that logic I guess Hillary doesn't care that much either, beyond boasting about her "experience"
 
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Prodigal Son

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Puts a smile to my face to see this many posters using their heads and accepting Bernie's continued candidacy.

You go Bern. Spread that socialism to them millennials.
 
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Wouldn't a democratic tea party be pushing more progressive policies? I don't see how that's bad. I'd like to see some progressiveness before I die. It shouldn't have to take 20 - 60 years to see some change.
 
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RustyNails

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As long as Devine and Weaver find gullible s4p keyboard warriors and other groups willing to sell their family heirlooms to fund Bernie's campaign, he's not dropping out. As simple as that. It's always money.
 
DietRob

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<+)O Robido O(+> said:
Wouldn't a democratic tea party be pushing more progressive policies? I don't see how that's bad. I'd like to see some progressiveness before I die. It shouldn't have to take 20 - 60 years to see some change.
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I guess if you like losing elections, fracturing the base, and blowing up your party then a Tea Party for the left is a great idea.

Las7 said:
What were the polls like in Indiana ?
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California is not an open primary. That makes a HUGE difference.
 
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Las7 said:
What were the polls like in Indiana ?
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Wait a minute, hopefully before anyone responds with the actual projections from Indiana.

Did he win by 35 points in Indiana? Did his campaign even hit their internal targets? No? End that line of discussion for your good, boo.
 
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VariantX

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Ziltoidia 9 said:
As long as he isnt attacked Clinton every day, im fine with it. Most of what he says is on princible and message in general, and not really attacks at her. I've heard tons of his stump speeches and he rip Clinton on much, really,
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Thats fine with me I'd rather both the hillary and bernie camps focus on beating trump as the R side has gotten its shit together now.
 
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