Maximilian Kolbe
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Or announce date?since PS4 already announced=720 100% announce later than PS4 and Titan already announced+releasedHmmm, they're also indirectly predicting that PS4 will launch first.
Or announce date?since PS4 already announced=720 100% announce later than PS4 and Titan already announced+releasedHmmm, they're also indirectly predicting that PS4 will launch first.
The interesting thing about this graph that's going to be ignored is the widening gap between PC and consoles. I honestly wonder why/how the 360 and PS3 were on par with the high end GPUs and the PS4/Nextbox aren't.
Dumbest response ever read.
Oh god, here we go again.
Let me pre-cap the thread:
- salty
- console optimization
- to the metal
- carmack
- overhead
- $3000 PCs
Did I miss anything?
PS4 will be like 399 with cpu, ram, mobo, case, controller etc.
Wasnt the titan not the best nvidia card today?
:lol
The interesting thing about this graph that's going to be ignored is the widening gap between PC and consoles at launch. I honestly wonder why/how the 360 and PS3 were on par with the high end GPUs and the PS4/Nextbox aren't.
I know you were trying to discuss how much cheaper PS4 is than a single titan, but pffffffft. We will be lucky if its 399.
They're not on par with high end GPUs because the high end GPUs of today draw far more power and generate far more heat than what's reasonable for a console sized box. Die sizes for the high end GPUs of today are also rather big, so yields wouldn't be very good for chip that tens of millions of need to be produced.The interesting thing about this graph that's going to be ignored is the widening gap between PC and consoles at launch. I honestly wonder why/how the 360 and PS3 were on par with the high end GPUs and the PS4/Nextbox aren't.
Price.The interesting thing about this graph that's going to be ignored is the widening gap between PC and consoles at launch. I honestly wonder why/how the 360 and PS3 were on par with the high end GPUs and the PS4/Nextbox aren't.
I don't think they had $1000 GPUs during that time, but I might be wrong.
You make it sound like videocard never go out bad. =X
But I also do agree that this gen's console had some high failure rate. I don't expect next gen would follow its footstep, however. (with all talk about efficiency over power craziness)
Or have lesser specs.Because PS4/Nextbox are coming later than usual, go back to 2011 and how would it stack up? Of course, PS4/Nextbox would also be more expensive with similar specs back in 2011.
There are two main reasons for that:The interesting thing about this graph that's going to be ignored is the widening gap between PC and consoles at launch. I honestly wonder why/how the 360 and PS3 were on par with the high end GPUs and the PS4/Nextbox aren't.
To be honest with you PC graphics power over consoles are meaningless to most people even in this gen, and it'll be even more meaningless next gen, when there are no PC exclusives that push the graphics envelope. All you're playing are console ports with better image quality, and the image quality difference will be even less with PS4/720 since they'll get 1080p resolution and 60 fps will be a lot more common too. Who cares if the Titan has 3X the horsepower of the PS4 if a game is being optimized to run at 1080p/60 on the PS4? What else are you going to get with the Titan? Multimonitor and >1080p support are niche stuff that won't amount to a lot of sales, so all I can really see is supersampling, which won't make a dramatic difference in IQ over the PS4 already running at 1080p with AA.
To be honest with you PC graphics power over consoles are meaningless to most people even in this gen, and it'll be even more meaningless next gen, when there are no PC exclusives that push the graphics envelope. All you're playing are console ports with better image quality, and the image quality difference will be even less with PS4/720 since they'll get 1080p resolution and 60 fps will be a lot more common too. Who cares if the Titan has 3X the horsepower of the PS4 if a game is being optimized to run at 1080p/60 on the PS4? What else are you going to get with the Titan? Multimonitor and >1080p support are niche stuff that won't amount to a lot of sales, so all I can really see is supersampling, which won't make a dramatic difference in IQ over the PS4 already running at 1080p with AA.
You make it sound like videocard never go out bad. =X
The interesting thing about this graph that's going to be ignored is the widening gap between PC and consoles at launch. I honestly wonder why/how the 360 and PS3 were on par with the high end GPUs and the PS4/Nextbox aren't.
The interesting thing about this graph that's going to be ignored is the widening gap between PC and consoles at launch. I honestly wonder why/how the 360 and PS3 were on par with the high end GPUs and the PS4/Nextbox aren't.
Why is NVIDIA talking crap about consoles all of a sudden?
Why is NVIDIA talking crap about consoles all of a sudden?
Why is NVIDIA talking crap about consoles all of a sudden?
A 7800 GTX was 600 USD.Anyone remember how much the top of the line single GPU card cost in late 2005? I don't think it was anywhere near $1000.
Nvidia should Just make a console.
perfect time to sell their overpriced graphic cards, engines changing, new consoles soon that will raise the min requirements. good time to come out and say our stuff is 10x better than ps4 and xbox 720.....Why is NVIDIA talking crap about consoles all of a sudden?
You think that Nvidia would be talking shit about Vita since they made a direct competitor to it.
They are not saying that though, they are sticking with the facts.perfect time to sell their overpriced graphic cards, engines changing, new consoles soon that will raise the min requirements. good time to come out and say our stuff is 10x better than ps4 and xbox 720
Why is NVIDIA talking crap about consoles all of a sudden?
I played ME3, Just Cause 2 and some others on the PC. Yes having higher resolutions and framerate are nice but not really worth giving up an UI that's designed to be navigatable only via a single controller, and trophies (Steam Achievements are a joke)Do you even PC? This gen even when I was running an 8800GT the PC was better then consoles. The difference in IQ and frame rate was large. Why do you think next gen will be different?
None of those are not even mid-market let alone mass-market.VR (Oculus Rift), 4K and hardware intensive games like Star Citizen, Rome II Total War and ArmA 3. When used together (Star Citizen VR) you'll need a powerful rig, more than the next gen consoles without any compromises.
They are not saying that though, they are sticking with the facts.
Vita gotta compete to be In competitionYou think that Nvidia would be talking shit about Vita since they made a direct competitor to it.
I played ME3, Just Cause 2 and some others on the PC. Yes having higher resolutions and framerate are nice but not really worth giving up an UI that's designed to be navigatable only via a single controller, and trophies (Steam Achievements are a joke)
What I'm saying is that's this gen. We have a hard limit of 1080p as 4K, VR are all going to be niche for the duration of the next generation consoles, that's why I don't see PC gaming being very appealing over console gaming when graphics advantages are compared.
..and trophies (Steam Achievements are a joke)
yea, my badThey are not saying that though, they are sticking with the facts.
You get a level and individual counts of trophies you get at each level with the PSN system. It's better than a lumped score like the 360 uses. If you're talking about implementation and how slow PS3 is syncing trophies, that's different.Trophies are a joke compared to the 360 achievement system, so its not that you think Steam achievements are a joke.
We don't know that, but given how unpopular PC is with console ports this gen, I expect that trend to continue when the difference between PC and console is even less.Also, 60fps is not going to be happening with any consistency this console gen. So there's that.
Not built into the OS (Windows) so not the same thing.They're the same goddamned thing.
I played ME3, Just Cause 2 and some others on the PC. Yes having higher resolutions and framerate are nice but not really worth giving up an UI that's designed to be navigatable only via a single controller, and trophies (Steam Achievements are a joke)
What I'm saying is that's this gen. We have a hard limit of 1080p as 4K, VR are all going to be niche for the duration of the next generation consoles, that's why I don't see PC gaming being very appealing over console gaming when graphics advantages are compared.
What facts? FLOPS? From what I recall PS3 supposedly 2x more powerful than 360, I never saw that difference.
NVIDIA: PS4 GPU 3x less powerful than Titan
but more powerful than Xbox 720