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I think this guy gives good perspective on the latest leaks, what do you guys think?
I have not seen a thread on this, I assume since we have DF thread, this is fair (he claims he has worked in the business for 20+ years).
Based on the amount of threads, videos, and haste at which it’s all pumping, the interest seems to be at critical mass.God this is getting tiresome now.
Who really cares? People certainly won't when they are playing Bloodbourne 2 or the next Spiderman. At that point even IF the Xbox was more powerful no one will give a shit. Just look at the Xbox One X. Most powerful console with pretty much fuck all exclusives to play.
Exactly.9.2 in a closed system is fucking a massive jump from the PS4 and Pro, not including the drastically better CPU. This with Sony's studios will produce some good shit. I don't understand the "oh noes" from some folks. It's good shit.
Lets not forget the pro and x are barely used for their potential other than running current games prettier.9.2 in a closed system is fucking a massive jump from the PS4 and Pro, not including the drastically better CPU. This with Sony's studios will produce some good shit. I don't understand the "oh noes" from some folks. It's good shit.
Where there’s smoke there’s fire, so many wanted to run with the Lockheart 4 teraflop Rumor. You don’t get to cut the cake both ways.As a guy with next to zero interest in another Xbox, I definitely do care if the PS5 is significantly weaker. It would make me think twice about the launch.
That said, I'd rather wait until we actually know what the specs are. There are so many threads about a single rumor already.
Even if its 9.2 vs 12 tgats about 29% difference . Ps4 was 40% more powerful than x1 and x1x was 45% more powerful than pro.so this is he smallest difference even if its true which the video says it isnt . So i dont know where u get the significant part fromTo be honest, that first PS5 game trailer that was released in december (forgot the games name) looks pretty shallow. If the PS5 is significantly slower then the next xbox, I guess I will skip the next console generation alltogether. Maybe get a Switch Pro if this thing becomes real.
If the PS5 is 'barely better' than the X1X, then the series X is 'barely better' than the PS5.LOL. Suddenly 9 TF is „good“ and not „bad“ hahaha 9 tf is barely better than the Xbox ONE X - a Lasten console! This is pathetic.
I'm not a flop evangelist, just a simple man. In my simple brain, 9 flops is significantly less then 12 flops.Even if its 9.2 vs 12 tgats about 29% difference . Ps4 was 40% more powerful than x1 and x1x was 45% more powerful than pro.so this is he smallest difference even if its true which the video says it isnt . So i dont know where u get the significant part from
Even if its 9.2 vs 12 tgats about 29% difference . Ps4 was 40% more powerful than x1 and x1x was 45% more powerful than pro.so this is he smallest difference even if its true which the video says it isnt . So i dont know where u get the significant part from
If the PS5 is 'barely better' than the X1X, then the series X is 'barely better' than the PS5.
Gatcha.
This. Also, anything more than that will result in a very expensive console that is either big or hot and loud.9.2 in a closed system is fucking a massive jump from the PS4 and Pro, not including the drastically better CPU. This with Sony's studios will produce some good shit. I don't understand the "oh noes" from some folks. It's good shit.
Xbox series X has also other power advantages over PS5, like dedicated hardware cores for ray tracing - PS5 uses GPU resources for that. Also, Xbox Series X has a dedicated chip for Variable Rate Shading
We'll see. Both 'sides' at this point are using incomplete data to either start pissing contests or conspiracy theories. Let's all wait and see before nailing that coffin.I've actually seen some people claim that the github data is incorrect, as the results pertaining to the 9.2tf result are due to a typo in the report (or test data).
Obviously they weren't going to make pro and x exclusive games and abandon their current userbase. They made that clear.Lets not forget the pro and x are barely used for their potential other than running current games prettier.
There was not a single game that was designed just for these consoles.
I got the upgrade due to my 4k tv but they are both a big waste of potential.
The new consoles be it 9 or 12 will be fully utilized and thats what counts.
You have no idea what you r talking about so just stopno, there is a huge difference.
but wait there is more: Xbox series X has also other power advantages over PS5, like dedicated hardware cores for ray tracing - PS5 uses GPU resources for that. Also, Xbox Series X has a dedicated chip for Variable Rate Shading
So, in total, the difference will be HUGE! It’s like a generational difference between those two!
Much bigger difference than EVER between Sony and MS.
also, people don’t get the Point. It’s also about the mindset. Again, MS has the strongest console. If they are the same price and there are no exclusive games at LAUNCH for PS5, why would people buy PS5 at launch?
Because we know Sony's first party studios and 3rd party partners well, and we know they will bring great games to the table. Who cares abut Gears and Forza.If they are the same price and there are no exclusive games at LAUNCH for PS5, why would people buy PS5 at launch?
Because we know Sony's first party studios and 3rd party partners well, and we know they will bring great games to the table. Who cares abut Gears and Forza.
CmoonnnnnnA lot of people do. Don't take the bait and engage in another ridiculous list war.
I'm not a flop evangelist, just a simple man. In my simple brain, 9 flops is significantly less then 12 flops.
EDIT: It'll all boil down to how 3rd party games perform on the PS5. If the PS5 to the XBX is like the PS4 against the XBO, I'll not buy a PS5. I remember the XBO running cod ghosts at 720P whereas the PS4 managed to run it at full HD. I will not tolerate such a huge difference.
Problems with percentages? Fine it can happen to all . Not that I am buying there is such wide difference.no, there is a huge difference.
You seem to be convinced of this for reasons apparently you only know (you’re welcome to share them though) and it is particularly pointless given the fact this is an SoC so having extra GPU resources or dedicated hardwired RT cores (which is nVIDIA’s solution, not AMD’s given AMD GPU parents and what they have said for the last few years) would not make much difference anyways as the space is fixed and you can fill it with any compute resource you want (unless your fantasy has one console with an obscenely bigger die).but wait there is more: Xbox series X has also other power advantages over PS5, like dedicated hardware cores for ray tracing - PS5 uses GPU resources for that.
No, I do not think so .Also, Xbox Series X has a dedicated chip for Variable Rate Shading
We will see... that it won’t be like that .So, in total, the difference will be HUGE! It’s like a generational difference between those two!
Much bigger difference than EVER between Sony and MS.
In such scenario, PS5 would likely be a lot cheaper and it would have exclusive games at launch, so I guess you answered yourself ?also, people don’t get the Point. It’s also about the mindset. Again, MS has the strongest console. If they are the same price and there are no exclusive games at LAUNCH for PS5, why would people buy PS5 at launch?
Cmoonnnnnn
no, there is a huge difference.
but wait there is more: Xbox series X has also other power advantages over PS5, like dedicated hardware cores for ray tracing - PS5 uses GPU resources for that. Also, Xbox Series X has a dedicated chip for Variable Rate Shading
So, in total, the difference will be HUGE! It’s like a generational difference between those two!
Much bigger difference than EVER between Sony and MS.
also, people don’t get the Point. It’s also about the mindset. Again, MS has the strongest console. If they are the same price and there are no exclusive games at LAUNCH for PS5, why would people buy PS5 at launch?
The CPU should provide better world simulation; physics, AI, damage, materials. And direct memory access to SSD should provide greater variety in density and scope.Keep in mind that increases in GPU TFlops have diminishing marginal returns. A 29% increase from PS3 to PS4 would be more noticeable on the screen than PS4 to PS5.
Exactly. The average consumer wouldn’t have a single clue what any of this means. When they walk in the game store on launch weekend and see Master Chief banners and hopefully God of War or Spider-man banners that’s how they’ll make their decisions.God this is getting tiresome now.
Who really cares? People certainly won't when they are playing Bloodbourne 2 or the next Spiderman. At that point even IF the Xbox was more powerful no one will give a shit. Just look at the Xbox One X. Most powerful console with pretty much fuck all exclusives to play.
You have no idea how the PS5 will handle VRS and RT. Stop taking information from your ass and wait for official info before shouting from the rooftops. What are you, eight?
To be honest, that first PS5 game trailer that was released in december (forgot the games name) looks pretty shallow. If the PS5 is significantly slower then the next xbox, I guess I will skip the next console generation alltogether. Maybe get a Switch Pro if this thing becomes real.
I'm not a flop evangelist, just a simple man. In my simple brain, 9 flops is significantly less then 12 flops.
EDIT: It'll all boil down to how 3rd party games perform on the PS5. If the PS5 to the XBX is like the PS4 against the XBO, I'll not buy a PS5. I remember the XBO running cod ghosts at 720P whereas the PS4 managed to run it at full HD. I will not tolerate such a huge difference.
huh? Cerny himself that there is only GPU accelerated RT. He NEVER said that there are going to be dedicated hardware cores for RT.
If they would use that, they would say that and not hardware accelerated.
yeah but its still annoying those games wont be on a more powerful consoleGod this is getting tiresome now.
Who really cares? People certainly won't when they are playing Bloodbourne 2 or the next Spiderman. At that point even IF the Xbox was more powerful no one will give a shit. Just look at the Xbox One X. Most powerful console with pretty much fuck all exclusives to play.
Well said and with microsoft working hard on new IP's.As a guy with next to zero interest in another Xbox, I definitely do care if the PS5 is significantly weaker. It would make me think twice about the launch.
That said, I'd rather wait until we actually know what the specs are. There are so many threads about a single rumor already.
These leaks are just marketing, sending a line to see what the people think......Who panics and who does not, we all have to wait.....Some people are saying they're buying XBOX because of this, when nothing is confirmed 11 months before launch.....It's crazy, I don't even think preorders are up yet......Yep, it's definitely the PR machine in play.....MS uses every opportunity for PR to change their outlook and this is what it is......As a guy with next to zero interest in another Xbox, I definitely do care if the PS5 is significantly weaker. It would make me think twice about the launch.
That said, I'd rather wait until we actually know what the specs are. There are so many threads about a single rumor already.
Hold your horses Pana, a bit too much hyperbole, so it means you're just baiting...….no, there is a huge difference.
but wait there is more: Xbox series X has also other power advantages over PS5, like dedicated hardware cores for ray tracing - PS5 uses GPU resources for that. Also, Xbox Series X has a dedicated chip for Variable Rate Shading
So, in total, the difference will be HUGE! It’s like a generational difference between those two!
Much bigger difference than EVER between Sony and MS.
also, people don’t get the Point. It’s also about the mindset. Again, MS has the strongest console. If they are the same price and there are no exclusive games at LAUNCH for PS5, why would people buy PS5 at launch?
Where on earth do you get that from?People who say stuff like "9tf is enough to have 4k games" make me laugh...
You know, 0.5tf is enough to have 4k games. And 20tf is nowhere near enough to have 1080p games.
You cant just make blanket statements like this.
Also, NXGamer is up there with Kotaku for being known as a Pro Sony site, and seeing as everybody cries that Rich from DF has a tattoo saying "MSDong" on his cock, I thought it best to be mentioned. You know, to even the playing field.
As for the 9tf vs 12tf, I said a long time ago, the power difference is nothing. As you get higher up with fidelity, the power gaps you need for anything significant increases A LOT. So, if Sony come in at 9tf but $100 less... Then MS are going to be ice skating uphill big time.
Stop proving to people that u don’t have any technical background and have no idea what you are talking about. Thankshuh? Cerny himself that there is only GPU accelerated RT. He NEVER said that there are going to be dedicated hardware cores for RT.
If they would use that, they would say that and not hardware accelerated.