So you have no argument what so ever and you are a perfect example of toxic masculinity. Because as soon as a man shows any signs of emotions, like crying, he is apparently becoming a woman.
"Men have only one real problem: other men"
And you are a perfect example.
I agreed with the part that toxic mascunlinity is a problem.
A man being the man he wants to be without being plagued by other men telling him he's not a man. Without being called soyboy, beta or cuck.
That he can cry to whatever he wants.
He can eat what he wants.
That he can be as emotional he wants.
That he cares about the things he wants.
That he can play with dolls or wear pink if he wants.
That he can take his fiancees surname in marriage and not be plagued by people telling him he is being emasculated.
That a man can wear his baby in a papoose without being told by another man that he is being emaculated.
"That he can cry to whatever he wants." - That can be toxic too. If someone just crys whenever they feel like it it can have a negative impact on their life. It's toxic.
Don't buy into this "Toxic Masculinity" bullshite mate. Is it true that some men are fucking terrible people? Yup. Is that horribleness an inherent feature of masculinity? Nope.
Is there such a thing as Toxic Femininity? Can you give me some examples?
Maybe it's just that some women can be awful people too but it's not a feature of femininity?
It's going to fucking wreck your head when you discover that some men are emotional and sensitive, not afraid to cry, not ashamed of going vegan, willing to take their wife's name, willing to let the wife bang other dudes, willing to take care of the kids and not give a damn what society things AND STILL are horrible fucking cunts who do shitty things that your average "toxic male" would never dream of doing.
Thanks. So, you've listed categorically feminine traits or cultural markers of female gender identity.
Masculinity is toxic if it's masculine, and non-toxic if it's feminine? Does that not strike you as a strange assertion?
He's one of those guys. Hanging around waiting for his chance.
A man being the man he wants to be without being plagued by other men telling him he's not a man. Without being called soyboy, beta or cuck.
That he can cry to whatever he wants.
He can eat what he wants.
That he can be as emotional he wants.
That he cares about the things he wants.
That he can play with dolls or wear pink if he wants.
That he can take his fiancees surname in marriage and not be plagued by people telling him he is being emasculated.
That a man can wear his baby in a papoose without being told by another man that he is being emaculated.
I think the major issue here is to even call characteristics and behaviour masculine or feminine if they are observable in both sexes and in a very large range. Of course, there are characteristics or interests that are statistically more common in males or females, or even are linked to sexual hormones (thinking e.g. aggressiveness), but identifying them beyond statistics to sex is a major issue that leads to identity problems and I feel it is one of the big reasons we even have the whole gender discussions and a majority of transgender cases: internalised expectations of behaviour and interests based on sex.I don't judge men who engage in more feminine activities but their freedom should not come at the cost of men's freedom to be masculine.
Maybe let me try to list a few things that are more common with males or commonly associated with male sex (be it right or wrong, I'm no biologist to be able to validate if these things are actually linked in a way to male sex) that are not (per se) toxic:Thanks. So, you've listed categorically feminine traits or cultural markers of female gender identity.
Masculinity is toxic if it's masculine, and non-toxic if it's feminine? Does that not strike you as a strange assertion?
Thanks. So, you've listed categorically feminine traits or cultural markers of female gender identity.
Masculinity is toxic if it's masculine, and non-toxic if it's feminine? Does that not strike you as a strange assertion?
A man being the man he wants to be without being plagued by other men telling him he's not a man. Without being called soyboy, beta or cuck.
That he can cry to whatever he wants.
He can eat what he wants.
That he can be as emotional he wants.
That he cares about the things he wants.
That he can play with dolls or wear pink if he wants.
That he can take his fiancees surname in marriage and not be plagued by people telling him he is being emasculated.
That a man can wear his baby in a papoose without being told by another man that he is being emaculated.
I'm legitimately shocked that thread wasnt locked.https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-era-so-particularly-angry-this-2019.93449/#post-16869170
Tremendous post right there, much better than the typical ERA whining, dude nails it on every front
I'm legitimately shocked that thread wasnt locked.
^ There’s just been too many of them to ignore. Basically, the optics™ would look worse if they closed every meta thread criticizing the forum instead of keeping the occasional one open and then drop a ‘run it’s course’ after 4 or 5 pages.
Yeah, pretty much nailed it.https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-era-so-particularly-angry-this-2019.93449/#post-16869170
Tremendous post right there, much better than the typical ERA whining, dude nails it on every front
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-era-so-particularly-angry-this-2019.93449/#post-16869170
Tremendous post right there, much better than the typical ERA whining, dude nails it on every front
Crying used to be manly and pious until that frigid shit British Empire took over everything.
Page 9 (100 posts a page) of that thread is a fun read.https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-era-so-particularly-angry-this-2019.93449/#post-16869170
Tremendous post right there, much better than the typical ERA whining, dude nails it on every front
You’re just a big tough fancy guy aren’t ya?(100 posts a page)
He's a guy with a broken calculator because there are only 10 pages at 50 per page.You’re just a big tough fancy guy aren’t ya?
A man being the man he wants to be without being plagued by other men telling him he's not a man. Without being called soyboy, beta or cuck.
That he can cry to whatever he wants.
He can eat what he wants.
That he can be as emotional he wants.
That he cares about the things he wants.
That he can play with dolls or wear pink if he wants.
That he can take his fiancees surname in marriage and not be plagued by people telling him he is being emasculated.
That a man can wear his baby in a papoose without being told by another man that he is being emaculated.
Little bit more context from memory: NoMoreTrolls actually was banned last year for making a similar post, or so i remember rather vividly.https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-era-so-particularly-angry-this-2019.93449/#post-16869170
Tremendous post right there, much better than the typical ERA whining, dude nails it on every front
If they would, it would cause an outrage against self.it’s so on the $$ that I don’t even think they can action his ass
Little bit more context from memory: NoMoreTrolls actually was banned last year for making a similar post, or so i remember rather vividly.
I think the major issue here is to even call characteristics and behaviour masculine or feminine if they are observable in both sexes and in a very large range. Of course, there are characteristics or interests that are statistically more common in males or females, or even are linked to sexual hormones (thinking e.g. aggressiveness), but identifying them beyond statistics to sex is a major issue that leads to identity problems and I feel it is one of the big reasons we even have the whole gender discussions and a majority of transgender cases: internalised expectations of behaviour and interests based on sex.
Maybe let me try to list a few things that are more common with males or commonly associated with male sex (be it right or wrong, I'm no biologist to be able to validate if these things are actually linked in a way to male sex) that are not (per se) toxic:
- Eagerness (unless it extends tow zealotery)
- Competitiveness (to reach new heights e.g. in science; basically as long as competitiveness is motivating to improve the own work rather than diminishing others)
- Persuasiveness (unless it extends to harassment)
- Rationality (unless it extends to cruelty / heartlessness)
- Braveness (unless it extends to stupidity)
At the very least he is now marked and stuff like this will play a part later on when he gets banned for something else.Willing to put money on it that shortly after that thread has been closed, he will be banned for that post.
Too obvious to do it whilst the thread is still active.
Willing to put money on it that shortly after that thread has been closed, he will be banned for that post.
Too obvious to do it whilst the thread is still active.
Who says it will get closed? The negativity thread from December I linked to is still open and had the same type of comments in it. I don't think it generated any bans either (at least that I can recall from then and I spent a lot of time in it).
They don't seem to mind criticism of the site too much unless it's things like bashing them for banning people for things like "dismissing transphobia/sexism/racism" that go against the safe space mantra the site has (and is listed in their FAQ with site rules).
I'm sure the mods/admins hate most of the anger/negativity as it generates a ton of fighting and work for them. They don't mind the bashing of whoever said something they see as bigoted, but the general anger/negativity/hostility that permeates the forum has to suck for mods and admins. It's bad everywhere on the internet anymore, but that place is extreme on those fronts.
I was perma banned for criticising the site re-design a few times. I had no prior warning or bans.
I agree, though it also is not specifically masculine. It is just something humans (of both sexes) may do.I don't know why people are troubled by this post. None of these things are inherently feminine besides the last name thing, and that's only due to years of custom based on patriarchy.
You know, for someone who goes on and on (and on and on) about being over it and having better things to do and (paraphrasing): “I’m going to be spending waaaay less time on the internet, I’m over forums, you won’t see me much ‘round here no more”, you sure do pop up on the regular to dispel negative (truthful) comments about resetera. You’re “nothing to see here” posts stand out like dog’s balls.Who says it will get closed? The negativity thread from December I linked to is still open and had the same type of comments in it. I don't think it generated any bans either (at least that I can recall from then and I spent a lot of time in it).
They don't seem to mind criticism of the site too much unless it's things like bashing them for banning people for things like "dismissing transphobia/sexism/racism" that go against the safe space mantra the site has (and is listed in their FAQ with site rules).
I'm sure the mods/admins hate most of the anger/negativity as it generates a ton of fighting and work for them. They don't mind the bashing of whoever said something they see as bigoted, but the general anger/negativity/hostility that permeates the forum has to suck for mods and admins. It's bad everywhere on the internet anymore, but that place is extreme on those fronts.
Pretty much. It's also stuff that some may seem as weak in men. That's what the poster was getting at.I agree, though it also is not specifically masculine. It is just something humans (of both sexes) may do.
A man being the man he wants to be without being plagued by other men telling him he's not a man. Without being called soyboy, beta or cuck.
That he can cry to whatever he wants.
He can eat what he wants.
That he can be as emotional he wants.
That he cares about the things he wants.
That he can play with dolls or wear pink if he wants.
That he can take his fiancees surname in marriage and not be plagued by people telling him he is being emasculated.
That a man can wear his baby in a papoose without being told by another man that he is being emaculated.
You know, for someone who goes on and on (and on and on) about being over it and having better things to do and (paraphrasing): “I’m going to be spending waaaay less time on the internet, I’m over forums, you won’t see me much ‘round here no more”, you sure do pop up on the regular to dispel negative (truthful) comments about resetera. You’re “nothing to see here” posts stand out like dog’s balls.
Just an observation, carry on.
Men are genetically wired to do dumb and stupid shit..no escaping evolution
Which is why I love my mrs as she is my perfect counter weight to balance me out
Now excuse me I have to go
To be fair, a majority of my posting over there the past month has been bitching about the negativity and hostility the the threads linked above.
My problem is I've been on forums 25+ years and have had little fun and gotten little out of them the past 5+ years after loving them for the most part for the better part of two decades. The problem is probably partly just that society and the internet have gotten more negative, angry, jaded and hostile and partly just that I'm older and most people my age or older quit forums long ago so I'm left bickering with teens and twenty to early 30 somethings I mostly don't enjoy engaging with in real life either.
In any case, my bitching and clinging to the past is pathetic and it's time for me to really cut back. This site needs cut as there's just pretty much no content here that I enjoy so I just end up checking this thread. Era I just need to never go to Etcetera, check the gaming first couple of pages for news once a day and otherwise just book mark my watched threads list which is just OTs/communty threads for games I'm playing News and those threads were all that was worthwhile on GAF before and on Era now.
I've failed at stopping posting here for a more than a month or two a couple times, so I'll request a ban this time and you guys can poke fun at Era in peace.
I doubt he is going anywhere. He has repeated the same monologue ad nauseum and he’s still here. Just seems like some weird attention seeking mixed with the resetera defence force.Sorry to see you go, mate - but honestly a lot of the issue is on you. I don't think forums have become more jaded, negative, or angry in general - you just became lazy and entitled. Nearly 80% of your posts since the schism has been either you defending ResetEra or whining that forums are too political (and you failing to see the irony in that). When requested to actually help make this forum less political and one you would enjoy given your preferences, you refused. You didn't want to put forth any effort to see the change you wanted and expected everyone else to conform to your whims.
Oh well, all is in the past. Enjoy your break.
You know, for someone who goes on and on (and on and on) about being over it and having better things to do and (paraphrasing): “I’m going to be spending waaaay less time on the internet, I’m over forums, you won’t see me much ‘round here no more”, you sure do pop up on the regular to dispel negative (truthful) comments about resetera. You’re “nothing to see here” posts stand out like dog’s balls.
Just an observation, carry on.