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[airmangataosenai]

if they showed footage equal to Witcher 2 maxed out, i'd be impressed right now.

i'm not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u541wKmf0UU

This honestly looks like CG to me. I can't find a single flaw anywhere. Not an off shadow, not a jaggy, not a flat texture. I've never seen anything like this before.

 

[ferr]

If you're going to compare, maybe compare ps3 launch titles versus (maybe) ps4 launch titles?

CoD3 PS3 Launch Title

Killzone Shadow Fall

 

[Pristine_Condition]

I can't understand this at all.

I mean, it looked pretty obvious to me that iN the Evolution racer, the freaking TEXTURE budget alone wouldn't even come close to being possible if you duck taped a PS3s RAM to a 360s RAM.

 

[Darryl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u541wKmf0UU

This honestly looks like CG to me. I can't find a single flaw anywhere. Not an off shadow, not a jaggy, not a flat texture. I've never seen anything like this before.

Yep. Looks like some CG to me as well.

 

[just tray]

Launch titles and target renders, for all we know they weren't even developed on PS4 devkits but instead were developed on PC hardware. It's way too early to make any judgments.

Not to mention the first waves of PS3 and 360 titles didn't look that much better than the top echelon of PS2/Xbox games, either.

Knowledge is power

 

[Phonomezer]

I'm happy.

The best thing about this gif is that it gives me hope that From Software can meet their Dark Souls II target render.

 

[USC-fan]

Crazy how things go with console launches. Someone else has to remember Xbox 1.5 . Compare Xbox 360 games to Xbox games now.

Funny reading the same threads every console launch.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

It looks very good, but doesn't match the wow factor that the last jump had. KZ2, MGS4 etc were just absolutely unbelievable, while this just makes me go "yeah, that looks really good!"

 

[Soi-Fong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u541wKmf0UU

This honestly looks like CG to me. I can't find a single flaw anywhere. Not an off shadow, not a jaggy, not a flat texture. I've never seen anything like this before.

I wouldn't go that far. There's some jaggy's and imperfections. Still beautiful though.

 

[BruiserBear]

Did the OP come to this conclusion based on a shitty stream?

 

[teiresias]

there's an bunch of guided CGI segments, an few areas with excessive bloom, and then you arrive in corridors with generic FPS gameplay. i don't get what you find so impressive, but i'm glad that you're excited at least.

Please tell me which parts of the Killzone demo were CGI.

 

[nikos]

They look incredible in direct feed videos and, in the end, they're still launch games. Look at launch PS3 titles compared to some of the better looking games. I can't wait to see what'll come down the line in a few years.

 

[ArkkAngel007]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

*Takes deep breath*

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Were you not around for the initial Xbox 360 unveiling? How everyone was calling it Xbox 1.5 or how awful Perfect Dark: Zero looked when it was initially unveiled? Do you not remember how people were laughing at wall guy or Dead Or Alive 4 for basically looking like a high res Xbox game?

The games Sony showed today were a gigantic leap over anything on consoles today.

Good times, good times. There wasn't even much of a gameplay leap initially back then like so many want to make it out to be.

I'll admit though, Killzone, Quantic, and Media Molecule were the only ones that really impressed me.

Infamous looked ok, mostly due to me being distracted by some bad textures and not caring much for in-game cinematic footage. Knack and The Witness (robots taking over after man's extinction, calling it now!) looked interesting, but nothing that couldn't be done now and be serviceable. Capcom and Square Enix using target renders (Edit correction: Square Enix's Luminous Eng. tech demo) didn't do much for me, though I loved the shield rim melting in Deep Down. Watch Dogs was awesome, but I expected it. Destiny is all about the actual gameplay in selling me this world, visuals be damned.

I guess it depends on your mindset and how familiar you are with hardware, costs, and all that jazz.

 

[EatinOlives]

This is what I mean. If you told me "these are PS4 screens" I'd believe it. No SNES to N64 or PS1 to PS2 leap, that's for sure.

They benefited from being early HD games, which automatically made them look much nicer on modern TVs. I mean, come on.

Are you really making this call off a series of gifs from a comparably shitty webfeed of the actual footage?

 

[RM8]

Did the OP come to this conclusion based on a shitty stream?

Even from low quality video/screens you could definitely see a huge leap from, say, PS1 to PS2. This kind of proves the point.

This applies to the above post.

 

[JordanN]

What game is that second gif?

The gif I posted? Wonderful 101.

 

[ferr]

Problem might be that the best we saw is not much better than what some games look like on current PCs.

 

[Lion Heart]

I'm happy.

Thats insane.

 

[Chamber]

Pachter was wrong as usual. I'm more impressed by KZ Shadow Fall now than I was with Resistance in 2006.

 

[Fox318]

Not quite 240fps (unless we're talking Pong) but still some nice looking grafx



Dudes arms must be strong as fuck to hold on to a rope being swung wildly from a future helicopter and maintaining a steady aim

Probably was using his balls to grab a hold of the rope.

Manly as fuck

 

[teiresias]

Good times, good times. There wasn't even much of a gameplay leap initially back then like so many want to make it out to be.

I'll admit though, Killzone, Quantic, and Media Molecule were the only ones that really impressed me.

Infamous looked ok, mostly due to me being distracted by some bad textures and not caring much for in-game cinematic footage. Knack and The Witness (robots taking over after man's extinction, calling it now!) looked interesting, but nothing that couldn't be done now and be serviceable. Capcom and Square Enix using target renders didn't do much for me, though I loved the shield rim melting in Deep Down. Watch Dogs was awesome, but I expected it. Destiny is all about the actual gameplay in selling me this world, visuals be damned.

I guess it depends on your mindset and how familiar you are with hardware, costs, and all that jazz.

Square Enix didn't show a target render.

 

[airmangataosenai]

Yep. Looks like some CG to me as well.

Except it isn't CG so.... you're saying it's impressive?

 

[ArkkAngel007]

I can't understand this at all.

I mean, it looked pretty obvious to me that iN the Evolution racer, the freaking TEXTURE budget alone wouldn't even come close to being possible if you duck taped a PS3s RAM to a 360s RAM.

What about 10 Wii U systems?

I kid, I kid. I love my Wii U and I hope that due to some of the rising costs this is bound to have, a few developers will spend some time on the Wii U and upscale those games to go multi-plat on the PS4/Xbox if that route is so important to them.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Next-gen has finally arrived.

So you mean PC? Cause that's what Watch_Dogs was running on, right?

:3

 

[FluxWaveZ]

If you're going to compare, maybe compare ps3 launch titles versus (maybe) ps4 launch titles?

CoD3 PS3 Launch Title


Killzone Shadow Fall

I might have underestimated the graphical improvement from PS3 to PS4. That really puts things into perspective.

 

[ultrazilla]

launch titles..

First post as usual.

Crazy to make any judgements on graphics this freaking early. Same thing
with the WiiU.

 

[Camp Lo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u541wKmf0UU

This honestly looks like CG to me. I can't find a single flaw anywhere. Not an off shadow, not a jaggy, not a flat texture. I've never seen anything like this before.

I seen a lot of blemishes in the headlights. That said, I think the term 'CG' will be gone this upcoming gen. If it's not in-engine, why even do it

 

[raven777]

leap from late PS3 games -> Deep Down is bigger than any PS2->PS3 launch window titles I have seen.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

The visuals were significant leaps. People also need to keep in mind these games were likely developed on hardware not representative of the 8GB revealed today. These are games being made on transitional hardware for launch.

 

[Tom Penny]

How you put this in a trailer is mind boggling.

 

[CambriaRising]

So you mean PC? Cause that's what Watch_Dogs was running on, right?

:3

Ubisoft wouldn't be making a game that looked like that unless we were getting new consoles.

 

[sp3000]

I'm not sure anything can impressive me as much as the 2006 Crysis trailer

 

[Krowley]

Are you really making this call off a series of gifs from a comparably shitty webfeed of the actual footage?

If you have to have super-hi-res footage to tell the difference, then it's not a huge leap.

That's the definition of diminishing returns. Things may look substantially better, but you get less bang for your buck. You have to look closer, and closer, to tell the difference. Eventually you're counting nose hairs and nobody cares anymore.

 

[just tray]

It looks very good, but doesn't match the wow factor that the last jump had. KZ2, MGS4 etc were just absolutely unbelievable, while this just makes me go "yeah, that looks really good!"

I think because we already made the jump to HD and KZ2 was prerenderd. MGS4 took forever to come out. Devs will have more time with the PS3 than they will with the PS4.

 

[ArkkAngel007]

Square Enix didn't show a target render.

Sorry, that was the Luminous tech demo. I'll correct it.

 

[Fox318]

How you put this in a trailer is mind boggling.

??

 

[RM8]

If you have to have super-hi-res footage to tell the difference, then it's not a huge leap.

That's the definition of diminishing returns. Things may look substantially better, but you get less bang for your buck. You have to look closer, and closer, to tell the difference. Eventually you're counting nose hairs and nobody cares anymore.

Exactly my point.

 

[ferr]

??

Same models standing next to each other. It's not an oversight, they are clones and stuff.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

 

[Blades64]

The graphics were amazing. You can't get that kind of visual fidelity on current console hardware (I'm still holding out final judgement of the Wii U). It's exactly what I wanted. PS4/Wii U/PC is going to be so good this gen.

 

[Radec]

Some probably forgot to click the HD option on their stream/video player.

 

[boutrosinit]

launch titles..

Remember the shitty 360 Launch?

Perfect Dark Zero?
That Tony Hawk game?

 

[Darryl]

Except it isn't CG so.... you're saying it's impressive?

i just use CG as short-hand for anything that's not gameplay, and none of that is gameplay, and nothing that isn't gameplay doesn't impress me

edit: actually i think what you linked me may have been CG

Please tell me which parts of the Killzone demo were CGI.

see above

 

[Phonomezer]

How you put this in a trailer is mind boggling.

I noticed some of the NPCs had the same heads as well, lol.

 

[IrrelevantNotch]

I think the focus of next gen games will be more on physics than visuals, which means trailers will never have that same wow factor again.

 

[ironcreed]

I don't know, looks pretty good for an unfinished launch game.

 

[AppleSmack]

I don't know, looks pretty good for an unfinished launch game.

Oh man... I gotta start saving up.

 

[JayDub]

There were only 4 games last gen that made me think, "wow."

(In order of when it happened)
Gears of War
God of War 3
Uncharted 2
Killzone 2

Considering Gears of War was the first "wow, next gen" game of last gen, it doesnt hold up today. God of War, UC2 and KZ2 STILL makes me go "wow" today.

This gen got progressively better, I didnt even notice. But those games definitely were points when I felt the bar was raised.

Goddamn, I remember thinking "this looks better than the CG from God of War 2" and "Wow, this is almost exactly like the tech demo" for KZ2.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Ubisoft wouldn't be making a game that looked like that unless we were getting new consoles.

My point is that he's saying that the next gen has "finally arrived" when the PS4 isn't out yet and that footage has been taken from a PC. I think that's funny.

 

[boutrosinit]

That is a target-ass render right there. There's no way.

However, give it a couple of years and it will happen.

Res Evil 4 on Gamecube made me believe in some weird shit.