No, I don't see diminishing returns like that. The system is still several months from launch and people are comparing last gen PS3 titles to first gen PS4 titles. If you look at early PS3 titles, they didn't look all that impressive in comparison to what came much later. Let's compare Resistance and Genji to Uncharted 3 just to see how huge of a difference experience with the machine makes.
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Pachter was right about PS4 graphics
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lol, i'm more than impressed.
Is an on-rails segment really that impressive?
dude i don't even know how you're supposed to play deep down. it looks like a CGI render. i don't see any fun or even possibilities for fun yet.
This. The difference in quality was substantial in just how clean and crisp everything looked alone. Not to mention the overall fidelity, and these are just work in progress launch games and tech demos. Look at what is still being squeezed out of the PS3 and then consider the hardware that the PS4 is packing. Imagine what we will be seeing down the road on this thing. You folks not expecting a big jump will be in for a surprise.
As others have said anyone who was expecting more then what they got were fooling themselves. The days of Ps2 to Ps3 like leaps are over. To be honest if you want more then that it might be time for you to consider spending the money to get a high end PC sometime in the next year or two.
For me personally I was happy with what I saw and think the Ps4 will be a nice addition to my gaming PC now that the no used games rumor is debunked.
For me personally I was happy with what I saw and think the Ps4 will be a nice addition to my gaming PC now that the no used games rumor is debunked.
Uno Venova
Banned
I'm happy.
Mhmm.
Baconsammy
Banned
This is going to be one of those movies/gifs that we joke about years from now. "Remember that time Capcom showed off CGI with a fake UI on it and pretended like it was actual gameplay? Good times."
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I dont think people are having unrealistic expectations but having expectations based on history. Especially from a longer console cycle. Nobody is saying its not impressive they look absolutely stunning but its like seeing a new game with new graphics. Next gen is almost should be dubbed, "The continued gen" or something because thats how it feels if you want to base the generation on power. Like I said these graphics did not sell me on ps4 the console sharing features and stuff did. That feels more next gen to me than these graphics.
toastyToast
Member
Not quite 240fps (unless we're talking Pong) but still some nice looking grafx
Dudes arms must be strong as fuck to hold on to a rope being swung wildly from a future helicopter and maintaining a steady aim
lol, i'm more than impressed.
Dudes arms must be strong as fuck to hold on to a rope being swung wildly from a future helicopter and maintaining a steady aim
Deep Down is def a real-time mockup. It's all canned animation made to look like gameplay, no way will the actual game look that fluid.
Lol. I'd like to play the games you're playing on PS3 then...
Did you see the rest of demo? Surely you're not making commentary on the capabilities of a console based upon a gif that's a few seconds from a live played demo of a possible launch window title?
The game looks great.
XtremeXpider
Member
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
*Takes deep breath*
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Were you not around for the initial Xbox 360 unveiling? How everyone was calling it Xbox 1.5 or how awful Perfect Dark: Zero looked when it was initially unveiled? Do you not remember how people were laughing at wall guy or Dead Or Alive 4 for basically looking like a high res Xbox game?
The games Sony showed today were a gigantic leap over anything on consoles today.
Yes. Particularly when you consider how bullshit skyboxes are in most current generation titles.
Boss Man
Member
That is a target-ass render right there. There's no way.
I'm happy.
However, give it a couple of years and it will happen.
Wyndstryker
Member
Graphically, they're definitely better than PS3. Can't really argue with that. I may be jaded but graphics are definitely a step up. Might not be the crazy step people expected but thats probably from having crazy expectation.
PuppetMaster
Member
First GAF reply nails it again
Hazelhurst
Member
[LUMBERGH]I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there.[/LUMBERGH]
Pachterballs
Banned
both that capcom game + guerilla game gifs makes me giddy like a school girl.
someone should do a ps4 games gif thread.
someone should do a ps4 games gif thread.
Exterminieren
Banned
Please tell me no one's buying that Deep Down CGI trailer as actual gameplay.
Please.
Please.
Phonomezer
Banned
Huh....
The new Killzone has a more pleasing aesthetic than Crysis 3, which is shocking to me because I think the Killzone games are fucking ugly.
This is what I mean. If you told me "these are PS4 screens" I'd believe it. No SNES to N64 or PS1 to PS2 leap, that's for sure.
They benefited from being early HD games, which automatically made them look much nicer on modern TVs. I mean, come on.
Phonomezer
Banned
Isn't it in-engine?
I can see it, but it doesn't really matter. That's the definition of diminishing returns. It might be drastically better from a technical standpoint, but who really cares? You don't get the same "holy shit I must have that!!!" factor from it.
Early on in the presentation, this british guy came out and started talking about a racing game, and he went on and on about how they perfectly modeled the textures of the carpet in the floorboard and used fancy technology to simulate the upholstery in the seats, and that's when you know Devs are wasting their time working on things that people don't really give a shit about. They've already got a car that looks practically photo-realistic, so they start fiddling with the upholstery textures.
After a certain point you're just like, "okay, this looks good. I am happy."
Next-gen has finally arrived.
mcdoomington
Neo Member
Sorry if this has already been said, but...
Everyone (those complaining at least) is comparing end-of-life triple A PS3 titles - titles developed by people with eights years of experience on the platform, squeexing every ounce of performance out of the Cell processor - against launch titles for the PS4. Of course the gap isn't going to be substantial.
If you're skeptical, go look at HD screens of Gran Turismo 4 (2005 PS2 title) and Ridge Racer 7 (PS3 launch title). Notice a huge difference? Nope.
GT4
http://www.tleaves.com/weblog/images/articles/gt4-gc.jpg
RR7
http://cf.shacknews.com/shack_images/sshots/ps3/060921_ridgeracer7_03.jpg
Everyone (those complaining at least) is comparing end-of-life triple A PS3 titles - titles developed by people with eights years of experience on the platform, squeexing every ounce of performance out of the Cell processor - against launch titles for the PS4. Of course the gap isn't going to be substantial.
If you're skeptical, go look at HD screens of Gran Turismo 4 (2005 PS2 title) and Ridge Racer 7 (PS3 launch title). Notice a huge difference? Nope.
GT4
http://www.tleaves.com/weblog/images/articles/gt4-gc.jpg
RR7
http://cf.shacknews.com/shack_images/sshots/ps3/060921_ridgeracer7_03.jpg
JordanN
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airmangataosenai
Member
Remember back when blowhards on this site condescendingly told everyone not to expect better than Witcher 2 next-gen? Good times.
there's an bunch of guided CGI segments, an few areas with excessive bloom, and then you arrive in corridors with generic FPS gameplay. i don't get what you find so impressive, but i'm glad that you're excited at least.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Just for perspective. Killzone 3, the best looking FPS on consoles this gen, looks like this...
KZ3 has much better moments, but this image is comparable to the one from the new game. Suddenly, it doesn't look so great anymore.
Wait, are you blind or something. If anything, it puts into perspective how bad some games look now, compared.
soxinthebox
Member
gotta believe
I'm happy.
This is from capcom..the camera angles look fake as fuck.I mean capcom of all people don't believe their lies.
Ghost_Protocol
Member
And we haven't even seen Final Fantasy yet.
if they showed footage equal to Witcher 2 maxed out, i'd be impressed right now.
i'm not.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
I think the best thing this conference did was expose the actual graphics whores who literally have no ceiling or basis in reality for their expectations.
All the games looked good enough that they would have blown minds at the start of this generation and they're only going to get better.
All the games looked good enough that they would have blown minds at the start of this generation and they're only going to get better.
lwilliams3
Member
What game is that second gif?
I knew something was familiar.
Wyndstryker
Member
Well we havn't seen anything new about Versus so thats kinda expected.
I'd still love to know what games people are playing that compare to what was shown. But I'm pretty sure some people had already made up their minds before the event even started. Meh. Either way you cut it, graphics are finally jumping up a notch after being based around the 360 specs for the last couple of years.
MakeMeFeelAlive
Member
wow, people actually whining about graphics for games shown for the first time, for a console that was just announced today?
lol
I love gaf.
lol
I love gaf.
I don't buy it as actual gameplay, but it definitely still had all the usual signs of being real-time so I'm definitely not ready to call CGI shenanigans on it. Besides, they very clearly billed it as more of a game engine demo rather than a demo of an actual game.