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Pachter was right about PS4 graphics
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RoboGeorgeForeman
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For me the scene in Kameo with the massive battle and the shittons of zombies in Dead Rising were the two things I remember wowing me last gen. I did find the first Gears of War pretty fun though.
People keep saying they weren't wow'd like they were at the start of this gen. Maybe that's because you were younger, possibly a kid/teenager? And you have nostalgia for that time.
Anywho, this gif right here, showing KZ's cityscape...
While it's small and from a video... that looks like CGI.
Anywho, this gif right here, showing KZ's cityscape...
While it's small and from a video... that looks like CGI.
do you even lift?
SpoonyBard
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Good textures compared to PS3 gen. But that's what to be expected with all that RAM...
ThisWreckage
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Launch titles and apparently Guerilla was working with 4 GBs of RAM.
wow bitter tears
The games look miles better than anything on PS3 and even better than anything on PC
People keep saying they weren't wow'd like they were at the start of this gen. Maybe that's because you were younger, possibly a kid/teenager? And you have nostalgia for that time.
Anywho, this gif right here, showing KZ's cityscape...
While it's small and from a video... that looks like fucking CGI from a movie.
The detail of buildings and objects in the distance and reflectivity and lighting alone screams next gen to me. Some people just are not seeing what is plainly there.
NYCmetsfan
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OMG if the 4gigs is true this gen is gonna be amazing. I'm hoping it will reduce pop-in open world games probably my biggest graphical gripe.
SpoonyBard
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People keep saying they weren't wow'd like they were at the start of this gen. Maybe that's because you were younger, possibly a kid/teenager? And you have nostalgia for that time.
Anywho, this gif right here, showing KZ's cityscape...
While it's small and from a video... that looks like fucking CGI from a movie.
It's a step up from the city in Arkham City, which looks rather nice, but it's always night, so it's easier to hide things...
Did you watch this on your Toaster?
yes this will run on the PS3 with all its CELL glory
3rdDimension
Member
Yes I agree. people want Avatar movie like visuals yet they do not understand the powerhouse computers that render films like that.
And By the time we do reach those visuals in game, the incremental steps to get there will take the shock away from the actual leap.
This actually looked best (if the game ends up like this). It was very weird that Killzone was not BEST looking game. I kept looking for that volumetric smoke but it did not happen lol. Still i was really woved by Killzone scale. One thing is that, killzone and..especially Driveclub are early. Just wait people, just wait. Those are going to get so polished.Did you watch this on your Toaster?
Penguins&PolarBears
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I wasn't blown away by the graphics or demos either, but it is still early days. Also I suspect most games were rendering at 1080p instead of the sub-720p resolution that most current gen games run at today.
I will say that I was also extremely skeptical of everything the Japanese developers had to show; I don't think they got the memo to stop doing target renders.
I will say that I was also extremely skeptical of everything the Japanese developers had to show; I don't think they got the memo to stop doing target renders.
This is how I feel. Some people seem to understand "diminishing returns" to mean "it doesn't look better at all," but that's not it. The games clearly look better than anything from this gen, it's just not the wow factor it was going from low-res gouraud-shaded polys to hi-res normal-mapped models, and I don't think there will be another leap like that in terms of rendering.
I wasn't incredibly impressed, but I have been playing games almost exclusively on a PC since around 2006 so maybe I'm making unfair comparisons.
Really, I think we are coming up against diminishing returns here. But the 8gb of ram is fantastic, and will have great applications for things besides just graphics. You know, like an Elder Scrolls game where the view distance is massive and the world is seamless.
Really, I think we are coming up against diminishing returns here. But the 8gb of ram is fantastic, and will have great applications for things besides just graphics. You know, like an Elder Scrolls game where the view distance is massive and the world is seamless.
Are you nuts? It looks better than PS3!
There are a number of PS2 games that look as good as, or better than, 360/PS3 launch titles when given the benefit of HD. Hell, there were launch games that were released in tandem with PS2 versions.
Also, I find it hilarious how many forget just how much bitching there was about the Xbox 360 launch lineup not looking "next gen", and even more bitching for a year or so afterwards. Just like current gen, there are going to be some games (particularly multi-platform stuff) that's going to look very similar to their ps3/360 counterparts with the edition of some fancy lighting and next gen graphical tweaks. Kind of like the difference between PC versions of console games that take advantage of the increased RAM and graphics card capabilities (like games that get hi-res texture packs).
And honestly, I really don't mind if there are some PS4 games that look like roided up current gen fare. Some of the current gen stuff will stand up incredibly well to the test of time, visually speaking. The original Playstation had it's fair share of games with SNES era 2D graphics that simply added some video cut scenes and maybe a special effect or two.
Also, I find it hilarious how many forget just how much bitching there was about the Xbox 360 launch lineup not looking "next gen", and even more bitching for a year or so afterwards. Just like current gen, there are going to be some games (particularly multi-platform stuff) that's going to look very similar to their ps3/360 counterparts with the edition of some fancy lighting and next gen graphical tweaks. Kind of like the difference between PC versions of console games that take advantage of the increased RAM and graphics card capabilities (like games that get hi-res texture packs).
And honestly, I really don't mind if there are some PS4 games that look like roided up current gen fare. Some of the current gen stuff will stand up incredibly well to the test of time, visually speaking. The original Playstation had it's fair share of games with SNES era 2D graphics that simply added some video cut scenes and maybe a special effect or two.
FairXchange
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Shame people still insist on judging alpha footage of games in the pre-launch stage of a console's life.
The least people could do is hold off on these conclusive judgements to save from making themselves look impatient or uninformed when we just went through a generation of consoles that saw massive graphical leaps over its duration.
Edit: I mean 512MB split RAM to 8GB unified DDR5.. this is a massive jump. The GPU is also generations ahead of the PS3 hardware, this is going to be a funny discussion to look back on.
The least people could do is hold off on these conclusive judgements to save from making themselves look impatient or uninformed when we just went through a generation of consoles that saw massive graphical leaps over its duration.
Edit: I mean 512MB split RAM to 8GB unified DDR5.. this is a massive jump. The GPU is also generations ahead of the PS3 hardware, this is going to be a funny discussion to look back on.
Really? Everything shown blew the PS3 out of the water IMO.
cosmicblizzard
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The days of being blown away by a leap from Super Mario World to Super Mario 64 are over. The next time our minds will be blown to that extent will be when we achieve true virtual reality.
Glorified G
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Did you watch this on your Toaster?
If I kept telling myself "diminished returns" over & over again repeatedly despite having no idea what next gen looked like. Then yes, Pachter was right, and that gif is not impressive.
It is a gigantic leap over PS3, even at this point. And more impressive than the best the PC has to offer right now, imo, let alone software that run on it 2 years ago, as suggested by Pachter. He was wrong, clearly.
If you don't perceive the technological gulf between what was shown today and what's available on your current gen consoles, you should quit gaming because nothing will satisfy you in the course of the next couple of years...visually, that is.
If you don't perceive the technological gulf between what was shown today and what's available on your current gen consoles, you should quit gaming because nothing will satisfy you in the course of the next couple of years...visually, that is.
RockmanWhore
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I'm not blown away, these games look significantly better than last-gen, but not by a huge margin. I just hope we'll see less crap running in upscalled sub-resolution, bad framerate, bad AA, etc... I'm kind of wondering if the statement Nintendo made two gen ago is finally true. Even in today's games, sometime there's just too much detail, and you rush trough levels without really noticing all the sexy visual details. It definitely doesn't impress me as the previous gap from the PS1 to the PS2, and from the PS2 to PS3. It's not much of a surprise though, PC games have stagnated for years now, Crysis is still one of the best looking PC game after all these years.
Lol are you kidding??? Go watch KZ-SF stream in HD... There is nothing even close to it on PS3 or any console for that matter and not even many PC games come close to it w/o very high end specs machines
If anyone thinks "diminishing returns" while looking at this gif then simply put, they have no idea what they're talking about/are blind/trolling.
phosphor112
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LOL. This is Bethesda you're talking about.
Phonomezer
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The hashtag ruins everything.
Yeah, I said wow alright.
Hahaha. This pictures proves just how clueless some people are. They have some mighty rose tinted glasses from last gen.
George Claw M.D.
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The graphical leaps are pretty clear to me, and these are just early games. Games a couple years or more from now will be even more impressive.
As a side note, I just realized one positive side effect from today's footage is that I don't expect to see this overused X gif anymore.
Funny how people can be so far apart on graphical impressions. On one hand, you have people saying tonight's showings aren't impressive, and on the other hand you have people thinking the above gif shows how Wii U wipes the floor with current gen graphics.
As a side note, I just realized one positive side effect from today's footage is that I don't expect to see this overused X gif anymore.
Funny how people can be so far apart on graphical impressions. On one hand, you have people saying tonight's showings aren't impressive, and on the other hand you have people thinking the above gif shows how Wii U wipes the floor with current gen graphics.
Glorified G
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Reminds me of Forza Horizon. Hopefully despite the lame exterior and the desperate attempt to come across contemporary it will end up being a great racing game.
And often they're one and the same.
Baconsammy
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I always thought people were using that gif ironically. Looks really bad to me. Most of what I saw looked spectacular.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Those people are the saddest of all.
Maybe some. I'm sure from now on it'll be. But plenty of people honestly jizzed over it.
Lucent
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Yeah. The PS4 launch titles don't look much better than the current PS3 titles? Not really surprising. Do the PS4 launch titles look much better than the PS3 launch titles? I'd say yes.
George Claw M.D.
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2D to 3D was not an impresive leap in the beginning. I'll take 16-bit gen graphics any day over any of the 3D shit from PS1/N64.
ThisWreckage
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Wait, are people saying that wasn't real time?