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PAL Charts - Week 12, 2008
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Phife Dawg
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Of course, GT is huge here. Pretty much the biggest IP apart from footie games I'd recon. We are crazy about cars.Psychotext said:
:lolf@luS said:
Psychotext
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Yeah, I was mostly wondering because the charts are usually all DS / Wii games.Phife Dawg said:
slaughterking
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As much as it would like to see PES Wii selling well and the effort to pay off for Konami, I honestly don't think its going to happen. It had a very, very good marketing push over here, but its actually a missed opportunity to release it half a year after the other console versions (and half a year before PES 2009 for that matter).
_Alkaline_
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Lobster said:
I certainly am! I'm hoping PES charts top 10 in the UK and that NMH climbs back into the top 40. PES should be in the top 5 for most other countries (hopefully).
I still think Konami should have scrapped the Wii version's "2008" moniker. But oh well. I guess we'll see the results.
Cosmonaut X
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Lobster said:
It's actually more like: Wii + Football + Europe + Huge departure from trad PES play + Intimidating (even if fantastic) controls + late release = ? It really could go either way, but I think that keeping expectations in check for the title would be a good idea.
Advertising hit on the opening weekend and carried on sporadically through the next couple of weeks. TBH, I think the TV ads have done about as much as could be expected and movement back up the charts will depend on word of mouth, print reviews (all very positive) etc.
_Alkaline_
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The only thing is that I'm worried NMH was very front-loaded. The hardcore, niche type of game that it is can tend to make titles sell very well opening week (and NMH did) but struggle afterwards. Let's hope that's not the case.
_Alkaline_
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Lobster said:
Will it be enough? I guess we'll see.
A few hours left now, right?
Cosmonaut X
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Lobster said:
But its marketing push - on TV and in the UK, at least - started on the day of release and carried on through the first week, with a few ads popping up last week as well. It didn't have a big pre-launch push, but it's not like the TV marketing only started a week or two after release.
slaughterking
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Yeah, thats about what I'm thinking. PES fans are admittedly that kind of demoprahic, that is willing to buy a new version of their game each year, but I doubt this applies to a game, that is halfway between the regular releases.Cosmonaut X said:
If the message about the new controles isn't clear enough PES fans won't bother with the Wii version. Konami can hope for good word of mouth and long legs or somehow recruit newcomers to the series, though.
TheDrowningMan
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Pro Evo Wii has been released too late to be a SERIOUS contender this time around. Most people have bought and been disappointed by PES 2008 on another format already, so my hopes are that it does well enough to guarantee a new edition in October / November.
A refined, slightly improved 2009 Wii PES (preferably with a full edit mode and a non-Master League 'management' mode in addition to Champions Road) would be just glorious.
A refined, slightly improved 2009 Wii PES (preferably with a full edit mode and a non-Master League 'management' mode in addition to Champions Road) would be just glorious.
Cosmonaut X
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slaughterking said:
Well, the TV ads have been good - Michael Owen & Ian Wright playing the game, with a great illustration of the control method - and the word-of-mouth is fantastic. However, the majority of the PES audience seems to be quite casual in the sense that they just want a fun yearly footy game that they can dip into, not necessarily anything that shakes things up that much. If the Wii version can't rely on them then it's going to be down to the hardcore PES players and any newcomers - a far smaller audience, IMO.
NMH has pretty much bombed in the UK. Hardly any copies have shifted since its first week.
Wii Pro Evo has been flying out though from what I saw last Friday, while GT
is just a monster. Didn't really notice many copies of GoW selling though.
Will be an interesting week of sales for sure.
Wii Pro Evo has been flying out though from what I saw last Friday, while GT
is just a monster. Didn't really notice many copies of GoW selling though.Will be an interesting week of sales for sure.
TheDrowningMan
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ColR100 said:NMH has pretty much bombed in the UK. Hardly any copies have shifted since its first week.
Wii Pro Evo has been flying out though from what I saw last Friday, while GT
Will be an interesting week of sales for sure.
GT5: P will do great in shops, partially thanks to Sony charging £24.99 for it on PSN when it's £19.99 in most physical retailers. I had to laugh when I went on PSN to check the price (I might have been interested had the download version come in at under £15). :lol
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index....p&ct=110015&arch=t&lyr=2004&year=2004&week=22
GT4P debuted at no. 4.
GT4P debuted at no. 4.
_Alkaline_
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ColR100 said:NMH has pretty much bombed in the UK. Hardly any copies have shifted since its first week.
Wii Pro Evo has been flying out though from what I saw last Friday, while GT
Will be an interesting week of sales for sure.
Is this anecdotal reporting?
Haha, I thought you said GT5P and for a second i was like "why the hell is Harry Potter number 1?" :lol
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
'practically sold out at almost all the online retailers.'mabuza said:
So it's not sold out, then? :lol
slaughterking
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Yeah, that sounds pretty good. I'm not entirely sure, but I think our german spots don't feature any football celebrities and theres not much emphasis on the controls either. :/Cosmonaut X said:
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cjelly said:
Its probly not sold out everywhere, but he didnt say it was sold out either. I'd say that practically sold out is when a store i.e takes in 100 copies of a game and there is maybe 5 copies left. Even if it isnt complete sold out it doesnt mean that the game wont sell well though.
_Alkaline_
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ColR100 said:
Oh ok. Out of interest, do you work at a game's store?
slaughterking said:
Well that's stupid.
It's not like the graphics are the big pull of the game. :lol
slaughterking
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Heres the spot I'm talking about:
http://de.wii.com/movies/wii_tv_52/
Not exactly exciting, but at least it aired pretty frequently.
http://de.wii.com/movies/wii_tv_52/
Not exactly exciting, but at least it aired pretty frequently.
_Alkaline_
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ColR100 said:
That's pretty cool!
I think it would be great if you gave us some anecdotal reports about the sales of UK games, like you did in this thread. Like, kinda made it a regular feature of these threads. It's always interesting as it kinda gives us a preview to what we might see when the charts ultimately come out.
I know this is OT (well, kinda), but does anyone know what happened to the "US Retail Musings" threads that Altered Beast used to make? I enjoyed them.
If I have the time each Monday then I'll try to remember to post up what people have been buying up over the weekend, but I'm sure there are also quite a few people who could do the same. And yes, in a preview sort of way it's always interesting and a point of discussion before the charts do get released._Alkaline_ said:That's pretty cool!
I think it would be great if you gave us some anecdotal reports about the sales of UK games, like you did in this thread. Like, kinda made it a regular feature of these threads. It's always interesting as it kinda gives us a preview to what we might see when the charts ultimately come out.
I know this is OT (well, kinda), but does anyone know what happened to the "US Retail Musings" threads that Altered Beast used to make? I enjoyed them.
No idea about the US Retail Musings thread, but I sometimes see it on the first page. I remember someone who worked in GameStation did a similar thing for UK retail as well not long ago.
_Alkaline_
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ColR100 said:
Thanks man, that would be great! We all really do appreciate stuff like that!
Captain Smoker
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Europe & Australia/NZ:
Sources: GfK, Media Control, ChartTrack, AC Nielsen, Screen Digest, NG&MA, SONY, Nintendo, "Heute".
Sources: GfK
_Alkaline_
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Whoa, awesome stats Captain.
Pretty much Wii domination throughout, with exceptions being most notably Portugal, New Zealand and Italy.
I think there was a press release recently that stated Wii has now overtaken 360 in Australia.
Pretty much Wii domination throughout, with exceptions being most notably Portugal, New Zealand and Italy.
I think there was a press release recently that stated Wii has now overtaken 360 in Australia.
Representing Portugal Wii love!
Honestly, I don't believe Xbox 360 is even close to wii at this point here. I know a lot of people with a wii or ps3 (at least 5 each), but no one with a 360. Obviously a non representative report, but still, wii has been quite successful for what used to be exclusively Sonyland. I honestly never even saw a Gamecube...
Honestly, I don't believe Xbox 360 is even close to wii at this point here. I know a lot of people with a wii or ps3 (at least 5 each), but no one with a 360. Obviously a non representative report, but still, wii has been quite successful for what used to be exclusively Sonyland. I honestly never even saw a Gamecube...
Gamecocks625
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I wonder how many copies of PES Wii Konami shipped. In the states, it is hard to find in stores, but considering that the UK (and the rest of Europe) is football/Wii land, I would imagine that Konami would ship a decent amount of copies to fulfill any sort of demand. I won't be surprised if PES charts lower than expected due to a smaller shipment than say, GT5 Prologue.
Captain Smoker
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Yes. ^^_Alkaline_ said:
The Wii is going to be the best selling Nintendo system in Europe.
Already 6.300.000 shipped units, I wonder how many units the Wii will manage till the end of the Gen.
Captain Smoker said:Yes. ^^
The Wii is going to be the best selling Nintendo system in Europe.
Already 6.300.000 shipped units, I wonder how many units the Wii will manage till the end of the Gen.
According to these numbers, Europe expanded its market to US-levels with the PlayStation brand. Not before. Now I know why we didn't get fabulous RPGs at that time