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PC gaming has won - True HD graphics for the masses
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CountAntonius
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I think the real point isn't which is the better gaming experience but why we can't just let people play what they want how they want without talking down to them.
Maybe they aren't ignorant and just like what they like.
Maybe they aren't ignorant and just like what they like.
jeremy1456
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SneakyStephan said:
If he did a '3DS has won' or 'Xbox has won' thread you can sure as heck bet they would be shitting on his moment. It was all about his execution.
Reuenthal said:
That's why I don't get the bitching. Everyone got their PC free? People bitching don't make there own damn money apparently so they say it's too expensive and they are probably using their parents PC or the laptop they bought them. If they did buy their PC if they did some research and spent a couple hundred bucks they would have been set for years.
Baller. PhD
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He probably lives in Europe, apparently PC games are super cheap over there.JudgeN said:
cutmeamango
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I prefer videogames over computer games because I always lost in the specs race.
But I want a new computer for Diablo 3.
But I want a new computer for Diablo 3.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I don't really care about graphics on the whole but if I'm getting a console game and I own all the platforms I might as well get it on the one that handles it better.Typographenia said:
Hell yeah, monitors are the real deal. I also prefer the closer proximity of them, helps me get immersed into certain games having my face glued to it rather than a room spacing me apart.2San said:
If they did care, why wouldn't they just have a PC?Typographenia said:
It's a question of degrees of caring I guess, they clearly don't care a lot, because there is the PC option. The H2Hs will tell people who have both systems which version is better, but if you have both, and it takes you a couple of minutes to find out which is best, that's showing very little care really.
I imagine those things are mostly fanboy fuel, but I certainly can't prove that.
Yeah, that whole situation is bullshit. I don't care who is actually at fault, but it sucks ass for everyone they can't hug and make up. I don't want to sound like a Steam fanboy, but I don't care to have Origin, I don't want it and I don't want the precedent of all the publishers having their own inferior Steam clones.Orellio said:
Felix Lighter
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I don't understand that line of thinking. You were obsessed with framerate while playing pc games but suddenly it's a nonissue while playing console games. Suddenly playing most games at 30 fps and lower became perfectly acceptable.CozMick said:
Baller. PhD
Banned
Because we don't want PC gaming to become more fucked by consoles than it already has. We want PC gaming to reclaim some marketshare so we don't have to suffer through console ports that fail to take advantage of our hardware. Most PC haters are ignorant and it's dumbasses like that who ruin gaming for everyone else.ARXIN said:
Sgt.Pepper
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I played GTA4, but that looks like a totally different game. Jesus holy balls.
dacuk
Member
3 yrs ago I spent a fuckton of money on a 3870x2 to enter PC gaming (had to import it to my country, mail, taxes, etc).
There was no way I was able to play any game for more than 5 min without the dreaded "ati2dvag" BSOD.
After reinstalling drivers, OS, tweaking settings, etc., I just got tired and returned to my consoles.
This thread will make GAFers think PC gaming is a sweet history of wine and roses, but it is still not for the masses until this kind of issues is a thing of the past.
Last note: that card is still on my PC, as it is great for outputting the PC signal to my Plasma. For gaming, no-no.
There was no way I was able to play any game for more than 5 min without the dreaded "ati2dvag" BSOD.
After reinstalling drivers, OS, tweaking settings, etc., I just got tired and returned to my consoles.
This thread will make GAFers think PC gaming is a sweet history of wine and roses, but it is still not for the masses until this kind of issues is a thing of the past.
Last note: that card is still on my PC, as it is great for outputting the PC signal to my Plasma. For gaming, no-no.
LiquidMetal14
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YES PC GAMING IS REALLY ALL THAT
I was not as big of a believer until I got an essentially high end rig together a half year ago. It's the master race and that isn't an understatement.
I was not as big of a believer until I got an essentially high end rig together a half year ago. It's the master race and that isn't an understatement.
2San said:
I agree with you, most flat HDTVs have horrible lag and ghosting problems, the only speedier ones are plasmas (sometimes, and not so speedy).
Thats why the best option is an HD CRT tv, too bad they are too heavy and hard to do maintenance (especially convergence and geometry problems)
Well I also got my gaming PC last year, and I've played several multiplats in it, but I hate being sit down just as I did for the whole day at work, thats why I play more games on 360.
But if I would have:
- A ultra-long HDMI cable
- A 360 controller adapter
- A wireleess micro mouse+keyboard
- Some big font mods to play on HD 2 meters away from my tv (most PC games put the fonts almost microscopic when you rise up the resolution)
I joined earlier this year, haven't looked back since.
Not to sound elite or anything, but playing console games at 720p or 480p(wii) is almost nauseating now. Added that many barely have any AA or AF and it becomes hard to bother with them anymore.
I still enjoy the console exclusives (Except the games MS moneyhatted to keep off the PC) but if the game is also available on PC then the decision is obvious for me.
Not to sound elite or anything, but playing console games at 720p or 480p(wii) is almost nauseating now. Added that many barely have any AA or AF and it becomes hard to bother with them anymore.
I still enjoy the console exclusives (Except the games MS moneyhatted to keep off the PC) but if the game is also available on PC then the decision is obvious for me.
Dreams-Visions
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if the 2GB 560Ti was a reference card, I would buy one and sell my 6950.
when the next wave of Nvidia cards come out, I might jump (presuming they are 2GB cards). The only reason I didn't go with a 560 this time is because 2GB of memory > > > 1GB of memory. Especially considering how many games use more than 1GB of ram when maxed out.
when the next wave of Nvidia cards come out, I might jump (presuming they are 2GB cards). The only reason I didn't go with a 560 this time is because 2GB of memory > > > 1GB of memory. Especially considering how many games use more than 1GB of ram when maxed out.
PC gaming lost in one big area.. PC exclusive titles that took advantage of bleeding edge hardware. Thats where the PC gaming genre lost its battle to consoles. back in the day sure we had console to pc ports but now days..90% of all pc games are mearly ports of dated console hardware.Freedom = $1.05 said:
This is something a ton of pc gamers refuse to admit but its simply the hard truth. What games are out there that truly take advantage of today's bleeding edge hardware?
This is why im eagerly waiting for the next gen consoles to come..im tired of this gen's visuals..they are pretty much pushed to the limits..besides some software advancements.
We need more games like Crysis Original to come out where graphics are just a whole different league then what we see on consoles. Pretty much the best looking game on the pc can be somewhat matched on the consoles.. of course the pc version will have all the extra AA and AF, Res enhancements but most developers dont do much during these console to pc ports..which sucks imho
TouchMyBox
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All I know is that playing The Witcher 2 at ultra settings in 3D at full 1080p at roughly 30fps is the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
... You can probably count the number of games that do that with your fingers. It's definitely a good idea to future-proof yourself a little though.
Dreams-Visions said:
... You can probably count the number of games that do that with your fingers. It's definitely a good idea to future-proof yourself a little though.
Foliorum Viridum
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Yeah, PC gaming is much more simple these days, but things still don't work when they should all the time.daCuk said:
It can be infuriating.
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You would have a point if you said Uncharted 2, but Uncharted is pretty mediocre.JWong said:
SalsaShark said:
I am PC /PS3 owner. But there is a case for console for sure. Beside its exclusive (The Journey). It some time pain in the ass to get the game running (Look at Witcher 2 problem thread), hell I still have blooming problem.
There are good and bad about PC gaming. If you like hassle free gaming and you are happy with Medium level PC graphics then I can totally see why people would perfer console gaming, beside its exclusive.
As much as I love my PC and Stream. I would never game without Console exclusives.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
This?Sgt.Pepper said:
Oh you know, just a three year old game running on PC.
It's...
Wait for it...
GTA4.
Competitive PC gaming is riddled with cheaters and there's nothing VAC, Punkbuster or any of that other shit that can do about it.
At least console gamers are on a more level playing field, same controller, same framerate, same visual effects and cheats are non-existent on PS3 at least unless the dev done fucked up (Infinity Ward - MW/2)
At least console gamers are on a more level playing field, same controller, same framerate, same visual effects and cheats are non-existent on PS3 at least unless the dev done fucked up (Infinity Ward - MW/2)
CountAntonius
Member
Many gamers started on consoles. Many gamers game on consoles. Blame the developers. Plenty have done a great job of reaching both markets well and catering to the strength of each. But don't blame the gamers who are just minding their own business having fun playing the game they want.Baller said:
It's like you hate my 12 year old nephew for enjoying Wii.
"FUCK YOU KID making gaming casual how dare you ruin it for me!"
I see you're point but I think you are mad at the wrong people.
LiquidMetal14
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THE WITCHER 2 ASSASINS OF KINGS
XANDER CAGE
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LiquidMetal14 said:
Soon to be on Xbox so even more people can enjoy and appreciate it!
LiquidMetal14
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COME AT MEBigJiantRobut said:
TouchMyBox
Member
Foliorum Viridum said:
I definitely wouldn't recommend PC gaming to someone who doesn't want to get a little bit dirty. PC gaming requires 20% more effort, but delivers 100% more awesome.
XANDER CAGE
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LiquidMetal14 said:
I BEAT IT ON PC AND I MAY JUST ALSO BEAT IT ON 360
Rickenslacker
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I think it's because of the options available to you. You can always upgrade, maybe you can look for some tweaks. Oh, the game just hitched there-- is that supposed to happen? Why am I hitting this framerate at this spot? Let's try this and see if that helps... now this... now that...Felix Lighter said:
I think it's just a layer of consciousness that some people have while playing on a PC because it's all there. Whereas it's out of mind when playing on fixed hardware.
Hacking and difference of hardware are a reality no matter where you play.CozMick said:
Would love to have a HD CRT tv. Though not practical considering my current income and living conditions, but I anticipate better times in the future.mt1200 said:
Yeah same here. It also helps in noticing things a lot faster when your face is closer. With my TV I have the problem of either being to far or too close(I automatically roll forward with my chair, can't fight the habit).Rickenslacker said:
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Sometimes a LOT more than 20% more effortTouchMyBox said:
Even in the Steam era I've spent an hour or two just trying to get a game to load. Compared to putting a disc in a drive and it loading, I can understand people not bothering with that shit.
I mean, I know the pay-off is worth it so I do it, but I shouldn't have to.
IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
Welcome to the dark side...
I do know what you're talking about, though. I built my first rig in late 2008 and I couldn't believe my eyes. I went all out with 2 GTX 280s (which were the shit at the time) and the first time I played Crysis I was speechless. Every multiplat was glorious as well. It's the kind of thing that you don't really appreciate until you try it.
I don't know if I can ever go back to consoles alone. Not this generation, anyway.
I do know what you're talking about, though. I built my first rig in late 2008 and I couldn't believe my eyes. I went all out with 2 GTX 280s (which were the shit at the time) and the first time I played Crysis I was speechless. Every multiplat was glorious as well. It's the kind of thing that you don't really appreciate until you try it.
I don't know if I can ever go back to consoles alone. Not this generation, anyway.
2San said:
Consoles don't have Terraria, mount and blade, Shogun 2, Stalker, Titan Quest, Red Orchestra 2, 99% of the best MMO's, 90% of the best strategy games...................these are just off the top of my head.
Your talking foolish and you know it.
EDIT: Here are two more just to add to your pain
Diablo 3
Torchlight 2
Not to mention PC has 10x the amount of indie games
LiquidMetal14 said:
pssh, screw the Witcher, it's all about VVVVVV
it's the most important game ever made because it has this song in the OST and it's onry available on personal computer!
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He doesn't care about those so they don't count.The M.O.B said: