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[Teknopathetic]

"Wasn't the original too light on content to begin with?"

No? It's a multiplayer focused card/action battle game that also came with a full campaign with story and cinematics. The big issue is that multiplayer progression (with regards to unlocking abilities) was tied to single player campaign progression. You had to play through the campaign to unlock everything.

 

[JayWood2010]

"We're using the original assets from the Phantom Dust that was released by Microsoft Japan in 2003," Loftis said. "We are updating some key parts of it. We are updating it with modern Xbox Live. ... For those who haven't heard of it, this game is a collectible card game that's wrapped in an action RPG. ... The game, when it came out, was very of its time."

http://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/13/11927046/phantom-dust-is-back-on-for-xbox-arrives-in-2017

 

[TheSpoiler]

This is what it should have been to begin with. Remaking a game is stupid, and if people who played the original are disappointed in this news, well, this isn't meant for you just like every other re-release.

Also, I wish more companies realize this.

Remaking a game isn't stupid. In fact, games like Odin Sphere benefit greatly from being remade and retooled. Not that it's part of this discussion anyway, since the original pitch wasn't a remake in the first place.

And I think people have a right to be a little miffed considering the original announcement last year was bringing this franchise back. But today, we have something of a port to fill in for that. Which isn't the worse news, honestly, but won't replace that new game thirst MS set us on already.

 

[HStallion]

Wasn't the original too light on content to begin with?

It had a surprisingly decent single player campaign despite limited content in terms of maps but it had a decent and weird story, multiple unique boss battles and some some ok story missions. Its biggest issue was repetitive maps and such.

 

[packy34]

"We're using the original assets from the Phantom Dust that was released by Microsoft Japan in 2003," Loftis said. "We are updating some key parts of it. We are updating it with modern Xbox Live. ... For those who haven't heard of it, this game is a collectible card game that's wrapped in an action RPG. ... The game, when it came out, was very of its time."

http://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/13/11927046/phantom-dust-is-back-on-for-xbox-arrives-in-2017

Basically, nothing about the graphics is being updated. Not a HD remaster. It's not even clear if it will be rendered in a higher resolution. People should keep expectations in check until things are clarified.

 

[Zeta Oni]

New Features for Xbox One and Windows 10 PC:
• Xbox Live Arena support integrated
• Play on Windows 10 PC or Xbox One seamlessly with cross-saves, retaining all of your progress and in-game items between both platforms.
• Cross-device play lets you play against friends regardless of platform.
• Full Xbox Live feature set of the original game, including downloading top player’s arsenals to practice against them – a feature not available since the original’s release!
• Looking for Group on Xbox Live so you can find and connect with other gamers more easily than ever.
• Multiplayer starter arsenals are included. Jump right into multiplayer with a better selection of skills!
• The Multiplayer skill shop is no longer tied to solo player progression. All skills are available for purchase immediately for multiplayer use.
• Improvements to game balance and frame rate

This is all amazing, but glad to see that return in particular.

 

[Riposte]

Fucking finally. I hope this forms a nice community on, at least, PC. It may not happen, but I think anyone who gets hooked will stay hooked for awhile. Even just going through the campaign is a really fun time. One of the top tier overlooked Xbox classics as far as I am concerned and it's holds up well (more weird than archaic).

 

[GuitarAtomik]

BELIEVE AND YOU SHALL BE REWARDED!

 

[Ishmae1]

Wasn't the original too light on content to begin with?

The original has a ~20 hour solo player story plus up to 4 player multiplayer.

Not really light. =)

 

[MulderYuffie]

Nice!

 

[element]

Sounds like a crazy coincidence that a fake ass trailer comes out when Shannon announces they are doing a remaster.

 

[Nuts.Pistachio_Nuts!]

So getting this for pc!! Missed out on it as a kid during my time on orig xbox. I only played non stop halo 2 multi.

 

[Ishmae1]

Basically, nothing about the graphics is being updated. Not a HD remaster. It's not even clear if it will be rendered in a higher resolution. People should keep expectations in check until things are clarified.

We're working on some improvements beyond what's been called out, but because we're very sensitive to maintaining the balance and feel of the game, we'll see how they turn out before we promise them.

Worst case, you get perfect PD at solid frame rate. Best case... it's going to be better than that.

 

[ChosenPredator]

We're working on some improvements beyond what's been called out, but because we're very sensitive to maintaining the balance and feel of the game, we'll see how they turn out before we promise them.

Worst case, you get perfect PD at solid frame rate. Best case... it's going to be better than that.

hey send me a invite to playtest ;_; please bae.

 

[element]

Adam! What is with that trailer?

 

[Rembrandt]

Didn't see this coming. Never played the original so this is my chance.

 

[Skyline Owl]

Oh, oh, oh. Excited! Best OG Xbox game.

 

[Natiko]

I'll buy it with no hesitation.

 

[Miker]

Holy shit I thought Phantom Dust was dead after Kotaku reporting MS shut the old reboot studio down. This, though, is the best news out of E3 so far.

 

[CrayToes]

I'll buy for sure.

 

[element]

Holy shit I thought Phantom Dust was dead after Kotaku reporting MS shut the old reboot studio down. This, though, is the best news out of E3 so far.

That version of Phantom Dust is dead. This appears to be something totally different.

 

[Miker]

That version of Phantom Dust is dead. This appears to be something totally different.

Yeah, I meant the IP was dead forever and MS would just say "it's coming" until finally admitting years down the line that it, in fact, was never coming.

 

[gafneo]

xbox originals on the horizon. This title is a gateway. Bring on Conker L & R

 

[kadotsu]

This is an acceptable consolation prize. Now do the same for Metal Wolf Chaos, please!

 

[vesp]

Wasn't the original too light on content to begin with?

Not at all, there's a 20 hour campaign and enough meat to the multiplayer to last 100s of hours

 

[deadscreensky]

• Multiplayer starter arsenals are included. Jump right into multiplayer with a better selection of skills!
• The Multiplayer skill shop is no longer tied to solo player progression. All skills are available for purchase immediately for multiplayer use.
• Improvements to game balance and frame rate

Excellent, excellent news.

No offense intended to the now-closed developers who were working on the earlier version, but I actually prefer this approach. The original game saw huge amounts of post-release testing, and while not ending in a perfect place (ex: Vicious Balance was too strong IMO) it was still in a great state. It's an incredibly solid foundation to revise a bit.

The existing art and especially sound are also excellent, so it should look quite good at a better resolution and framerate. I wouldn't complain about better textures here and there, but it was always a really good looking game.

Wasn't the original too light on content to begin with?

Not even slightly.

It has a slightly awkward hub world which does waste a lot of time, but the game is filled with lots of skills, character models, enemies, missions (including optional missions), maps, cutscenes, and so on. It's a big game, and that's ignoring the fact that the primary appeal is the multiplayer anyway.

The single player campaign has maybe my second favorite videogame ending, for whatever that's worth.

 

[Skulldead]

Why they didn't show that on the MS conference, would have rise a couple of point on Microsoft Conference... I can't wait to play on PC. So the remaster of this game is clearly dead ? this is just a normal HD remake ?

 

[shintoki]

New Features for Xbox One and Windows 10 PC:
• Xbox Live Arena support integrated
• Play on Windows 10 PC or Xbox One seamlessly with cross-saves, retaining all of your progress and in-game items between both platforms.
• Cross-device play lets you play against friends regardless of platform.
• Full Xbox Live feature set of the original game, including downloading top player’s arsenals to practice against them – a feature not available since the original’s release!
• Looking for Group on Xbox Live so you can find and connect with other gamers more easily than ever.
• Multiplayer starter arsenals are included. Jump right into multiplayer with a better selection of skills!
• The Multiplayer skill shop is no longer tied to solo player progression. All skills are available for purchase immediately for multiplayer use.
• Improvements to game balance and frame rate

*Tears of joy*

 

[Daria]

project possibly being developed by Armature Studio. the creative director of Recore has also been working on a Phantom Dust project since 2013

 

[JayWood2010]

project possibly being developed by Armature Studio. the creative director of Recore has also been working on a Phantom Dust project since 2013

We going to get a Phantom Dust 2?

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Wtf? Outta nowhere.

 

[TheSeks]

*comes back from Ranked Rocket League failures and sees this news*

lol just watching this. People really asked for this? Its just old game

<------------------------------------ME FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

I stated this wayyyy before that remake was a glimmer in Microsoft's eye: I'd rather have a fucking PC port of this than them attempting to do it (and do it badly) because of how dormant they put the IP AND because they had no faith in it back in 2005 when they were the publisher in the first place (Majesco scooped it up because MS paid for translation and then backed out because it's "too niche")

Now, if I can monkey paw Tecmo into giving me a tolerable port of Ninja Gaiden Black and Ubisoft to patch Pandora Tomorrow, I'd officially have no reason to hold onto my X-box 180.

Also while I'm wishing and if Phil is listening and still listening to my hopes: FUCKING PUT THIS ON STEAM AND GoG/Origin AND DON'T MAKE IT UWP.

Spoiler

He's totally gonna fucking make it UWP now isn't he? D:

 

[Lime Blockade]

We're working on some improvements beyond what's been called out, but because we're very sensitive to maintaining the balance and feel of the game, we'll see how they turn out before we promise them.

Worst case, you get perfect PD at solid frame rate. Best case... it's going to be better than that.

Can you confirm if there will be a physical boxed release for the Xbox One? Pretty please?!?!?!

 

[Lumination]

I wanted this more than some reboot.

Day 1 for PC. Will be there. Absolutely. Cannot believe PD is alive.

 

[golem]

Yep reboot was unnecessary. Day 1

 

[Kent]

Can you confirm if there will be a physical boxed release for the Xbox One? Pretty please?!?!?!

Just imagine what could be in a collector's edition nowadays. How great would a physical TCG be?

 

[dancrane212]

Why they didn't show that on the MS conference, would have rise a couple of point on Microsoft Conference... I can't wait to play on PC. So the remaster of this game is clearly dead ? this is just a normal HD remake ?

The remaster being a step down from the promised remake probably made it a decent idea to push the game out of the spotlight. That or someone realised the double quote on the trailer and didn't have time to correct it.

Can you confirm if there will be a physical boxed release for the Xbox One? Pretty please?!?!?!

I'll echo this. Just like Ori I'm happy to support more games getting physical releases.

 

[Grief.exe]

Holy shit I thought Phantom Dust was dead after Kotaku reporting MS shut the old reboot studio down. This, though, is the best news out of E3 so far.

This seems to be a fair compromise as they don't have to front the initial investment required for a complete game.

 

[Zedox]

Also while I'm wishing and if Phil is listening and still listening to my hopes: FUCKING PUT THIS ON STEAM AND GoG/Origin AND DON'T MAKE IT UWP.

Spoiler

He's totally gonna fucking make it UWP now isn't he? D:

Definitely Windows Store exclusive.

 

[TheSeks]

Just imagine what could be in a collector's edition nowadays. How great would a physical TCG be?

How would that even play given this isn't really a card game in anything other than building arsenals and skills.

 

[UltraGunner]

This is the shit right here!

 

[thelastword]

Very nice that it has returned, great stuff right there.

 

[SatoAilDarko]

Pretty pumped.

 

[Kent]

How would that even play given this isn't really a card game in anything other than building arsenals and skills.

Obviously not a 1:1 conversion, but there's a lot of potential for a creative, light physical card game based around similar concepts. More of a collector's item than anything else.

 

[Uthred]

So glad this isnt dead, even better its coming to PC. First game was criminally under-rated.

 

[Snakeyes]

project possibly being developed by Armature Studio. the creative director of Recore has also been working on a Phantom Dust project since 2013

what

Does this mean we might get a real sequel depending on how this does?

 

[sangreal]

project possibly being developed by Armature Studio. the creative director of Recore has also been working on a Phantom Dust project since 2013

it's being developed by code mystics, who also did killer instinct classic on xb1 and worked on rare replay

http://www.codemystics.com/

they seem to specialize in porting or emulating old games

 

[PantsuJo]

YES
FUCKING
YES

 

[Fox Mulder]

xbox originals on the horizon. This title is a gateway. Bring on Conker L & R

I'd love similar ports for the handful of worthwhile original Xbox games left stranded. Stuff like Shenmue 2, panzer dragoon orta, conker.

 

[Theorry]

Holy crap.