phantasmic_glaive
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Charade? Wtf are you talking about, charade!? It was exclusive! "Shitfits" don't change the meaning of the word, lol. No matter how salty people get. The "shitfits" came because they paid SE not to release it on PS4.
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PlayStationUK Confirms Crash Bandicoot N'sanely trilog Is a PlayStation 4 Exclusive
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Charade? Wtf are you talking about, charade!? It was exclusive! "Shitfits" don't change the meaning of the word, lol. No matter how salty people get. The "shitfits" came because they paid SE not to release it on PS4.
Everyone knows that already though, that's not really the question here. The question is if it's actually exclusive (which doesnt seem likely looking at the facts), or timed.OléGunner;233714878 said:
Sony released a video last year after a PC port was confirmed calling Nier a "PS4 Exclusive".
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MS kept the charade as long as possible.
Aaron Greenberg went as far to contradict Geoff Keighley directy when he broke the news it was times. You have a strange definition of 'upfront'
It was confirmed that it was timed way before release.
That's how exclusives or timed exclusives work when they are not done by a first party, yes.
The wordings should still be differentiated. A timed exclusive is not the same thing as a actual exclusive.
Caayn
Member
Why do you think companies pay for exclusives? Why do the big three fund titles?
wrestleman
Member
acm2000
20 years dumb
(Today, 04:05 AM)
perfect timing.
but seriously.
every thread.
without fail.
I was responding to a poster saying they are lying on the promo.
I don't agree as there is some sort of exclusivity, you and others just want clarity which is fair enough.
Anyway, tbh I shouldn't have dragged myself into this.
OléGunner;233715108 said:
It should be something that is clarified from the get go. "Exclusive" and "timed exclusive" are pretty different things. One is "never going to happen", other is "it will eventually happen".
We know why
Yeah okay sure thing man.
Pretty sure you'll play it on Xbone within a year.
Activision will naturally be looking to rake in as much cash as possible with this one.
phantasmic_glaive
Member
For reasons, whatever they might be is up to them. Who cares. MS published a game that was otherwise coming to every platform like the first reboot, thus people got angry. Nothing similar to Bayonetta or sfv where the Nintendo or Sony help fund the game to be made.
what other platforms is it coming out on? How long is it timed for? Can I get a source? Who said it?
... you know what, don't even bother.
Wasn't the main point of the hubbub around the announcement regarding the fact that it was essentially confirmed/announced then had timed exclusivity retroactively applied, after the first had come out on all platforms. Somewhat different cases no?
OléGunner;233714735 said:
Sony has been using explicit labels to remove ambiguity in exclusivity deals for quite some time:
- Full Exclusive: "Only on PlayStation" || "Playstation 4 Exclusive"
- PS4+PC: "Playstation 4 Console Exclusive"
- Timed Exclusive: "First on PS4" || "Console Debut"
They were more or less reliable in the beginning, but for some time they have been sending contradictory messages, telling lies on stage, labeling differently according to regions, etc.
Logic tells me that if there is some kind of ambiguity, then it won't be exclusive, because the only thing worse(from Sony's point of view) than people thinking it may come to other platforms is people knowing it will come for sure.
So yes, saying a game is exclusive if it is not going to be is lying.
AusRoachman
Member
$ony . Am I doing it right?
Without knowing who is funding what it's very unusual for a third party like activision to do a non timed exclusive .
Sure destiny etc had timed dlc but I'm struggling to think of any activision game that was exclusive to one platform.
Without knowing who is funding what it's very unusual for a third party like activision to do a non timed exclusive .
Sure destiny etc had timed dlc but I'm struggling to think of any activision game that was exclusive to one platform.
It's a Activision game. Made by a Activision owned studio. Published by Activision, with the IP owned by Activision, with not a single mention of exclusivity in any of the press releases ever released about it, with no mention of Sony in the boxart. Playstation Ireland said it was exclusive but then they issue a correction saying it's timed.There's your source. They might as well paint "timed exclusivity" in bright neon letters at this point.
So Sony is lying by saying 'ps4 exclusive'' ? or it is exclusive
You think people still see Tomb Raider and Resident Evil as PlayStation franchises? What year do you think it is?
Sony is lying by saying 'PS4 Exclusive' if it is not going to be exclusive.
And this is one of those cases full of ambiguity.
To be fair, yeah a lot of these franchises still have tons of Playstation mindshare, like Tekken and Final Fantasy for example.
It may not be anywhere near as much as it used to be by nature of being exclusive, but its still around.
Stereogatari
Banned
Ratio of sales on each platform
"if" being the operative word. things can change. who's to say sony and activision haven't been in discussions up to this point to agree to terms of which the game is full exclusive, and so the latest piece of PR is our first official declaration of exclusivity?
the thing on the front page is the latest piece of information regarding the game being exclusive to PS4. it may not stick, but until i hear evidence to say otherwise, it's a full exclusive.
Part of it I believe.
It was announced for X1 and PS4, then few months later MS said it was an X1 exclusive game holiday 2015 at E3, or was it gamescom?. They used very specific wording when they announced it though, but otherwise kept hush on its actual exclusivity for a few days until there was such a fuss over it that Phil I believe actually said that it had a time frame for exclusivity and left it at that. But people weren't happy that they had gotten exclusivity after the fact and/or they were wording it as if it was theirs forever, I imagine there was a few people that have been playing TR on PlayStation platforms since its first PS1 release so weren't really happy that their platform of choice was then being ignored.
I think it came out then that Square Enix weren't happy with how the whole thing was perceived, so I believe they went to MS, what was apparently 6 months or something of exclusivity turns into a console exclusive for X1 for a year but they were allowed to talk about the PC and PS4 versions, the PC version which then came out 2 months later.
Everyone has very specific on wording these days, PC has become a platform they can't ignore, especially since it's never been easier to port between devices. So now we have the console exclusive term which really comes down to it not being on PlayStation or Xbox seeing as Nintendo generally are doing their own thing.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
Would you be mad if Crash released on Nintendo Switch, Xbox Scorpio and PC even if you knew for sure you would get to play it on your beloved PS4?
My skepticism tells me you are thinking exactly the way they want you to think. And of course they will avoid any direct clarification.
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD and Dragon Quest Heroes both have "Only on Playstation" on their cover art. Both games have released on PC and DQH has a Switch port.
Crash has been multiplat since the GameCube and had GameCube and original Xbox releases.
I was under the impression that Universal actually owned the assets to those games, not Sony, which Activision all got when they acquired Crash.
And would you be mad if Crash is a PS4 exclusive? Why it need to be on Xbox and Switch if it's a game made for Crash fan (aka the PS fan).
Crash 1-3 are owned by Activision, Sony only owns publishing rights, aka the rights to sell the original PS1 game.
The only Crash game Sony does own is CTR.
Factually, Crash fans are multiplatform and the series has more games multiplatform than it has PS ones. In fact there's basically almost as many Nintendo Crash exclusives too.
how much more direct do you want them to be than the exclusive sticker? they've made their claim. but if you want to sit there with a tinfoil hat on, then by all means.
i'll take it at face value until someone official says otherwise. it doesn't effect me or my purchasing decision either way.
I see. I'd expect it to come to other platforms then.
I don't think this list of mostly bad and certainly mostly forgettable multiplatform games dissproves the point of the post you quoted.
The original Crash Bandicoot trilogy, which was when the series was at its best and at its most popular, was a PlayStation exclusive trilogy (plus Team Racing) that has never appeared on anything else. Lets not forget that Crash became the defacto mascot for PlayStation during this era and was leaned on heavily to advertise and market the entire brand during the 90's.
Crash has appeared on most systems since but the character and this specific collection of games are and always have been heavily associated with PlayStation. I don't care personally if the game goes multiplatform and to be honest would prefer if it did, but certainly among casual audiences I think it's reasonable that most people who own a PS4 will be playing this there.
Maybe using that label everywhere and not only in one advertising email, or at least saying it is exclusive.
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy-ps4/
http://www.crashbandicoot.com
https://www.activision.com/games/crash/crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
What, there is no audience for Crash on Nintendo platforms? With numerous exclusive Crash games for GBA / NDS and Wii being the lead platform for the Mutant games, Crash should be very well-known to Nintendo's audience. Moreover, platformers typically do very well on Nintendo systems, which comes to no surprise, considering Nintendo themselves are the masters of the genre.
HighResTomato
Member
Lol so you can't be a crash fan unless you own a modern PS?
que dated links to dated sources... this is the why i said "latest PR"
and as is said, things might change. it's irrelevant either way. but i see no reason to say they're lying when there is no evidence to suggest it *shrugs*
EDIT: my actual theory is activision is simply playing it safe. the game might get released on other platforms if it performs well on PS4. which is why the messaging has been confused up until this point. but until someone says that is the case it's just another theory in a thread full of them. reality and in the here and now. the last piece of PR released for the game is claiming it's exclusive. that's good enough for me. if they change their mind in the future then that's good enough for me too.
Sony
Nintendo
So you think that if Crash were to come to Xbox people would think "this is a playstation brand I'm not going to buy it?". People that own both PS4/Xbox One might get it on PS4 due to nostalgic reasons but Xbox One only owners will not leave it on the store shelve, if they want the game, because it's a PS brand.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Well, I don't hate it, but since Crash Trilogy is the only game not on a dedicated game system I own that I am interested in, but it is a remake of games I already own for PS1, I would be glad if it came to Xbox One or Switch, because then I could buy it and also support my favourite genre with this. The added benefit would be that I could play the games with a controller where the left analogstick is in the primary position, which matters a great deal for me, so I would actually gain gameplay comfort out of it when compared to replaying the PS1 originals.
Also, one need not be a huge PlayStation fan to like Crash.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
Appears to be that way lol
Who giv'es a shit wherever it's exclusive or not? Just wait till release date or confirmation or something. It says it's exclusives in that mail so it's not exclusive until otherwise is said/announced.
That's been my motto since really the Halo Steam DB rumours. A game is not exclusive or coming to other plattforms until it's confirmed/announced. That way I'll never be dissapointed so right now Crash N'Sane is a full PS4 exclusive.
That's been my motto since really the Halo Steam DB rumours. A game is not exclusive or coming to other plattforms until it's confirmed/announced. That way I'll never be dissapointed so right now Crash N'Sane is a full PS4 exclusive.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
And yet this remaster is made because only the PS fan had requested it.
Have you seen MS/N fan asking for a crash remaster to their company? No they only port beg because this is coming on PS4 thanks to the demand made by the PS users.
The reality is that crash is remembered only for the first trilogy made by Naughty Dog the other are more or less forgettable games.
This thread was created as the label runs contrary to PlayStation IE's clarification the other week, and people are debating whether or not the trilogy is exclusive, or the extent to which it's exclusive, because that's the topic of discussion. For the most part, at least, said posters (myself included) are just trying to make sense of a needlessly unclear situation, not attempting to win a point for list wars.
TBH, the GAF console community is the most insecure here when talking about exclusives, I have yet to see the PC community actively trying to make console players desist in their thoughts of PC exclusives coming to consoles.
But every time someone suggests a console "exclusive" may come to other platforms, a lot of people jump into the thread trying to convince everybody that it won't happen.
The irony behind this post is out of this freakin' world
Fun Fact: The poster you are replying too is one of the most notorious posters for doing this