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Pokemon Home (Paywall edition) now live

Will you be trying out Pokemon Home

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 7.0%
  • No

    Votes: 41 71.9%
  • I'm going to sub!

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • They can think again if I'm subbing to this!

    Votes: 11 19.3%

  • Total voters
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CuteFaceJay

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The trading features that had been taken out from the recent sword & shield games seems to now be live in the Pokemon Home app for Switch, iOS & Android.


What you all think about this and do you plan on trying it out?

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Anyone getting error codes with the apps the link below explains why.

 
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-Arcadia-

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I can’t possibly understand being obsessed with Pokemon enough to pay a fee (is it monthly? Yearly?) to keep your critters accessible on all new games. Personally, I’m fine with completing a game and leaving all aspects of it behind.

Maybe this fanbase has different needs though.

If it was a one-time fee to upload your Pokemon, maybe. It’d be kind of nifty to have some old Pokemon, but that’s the extent of my interest. I’m certainly not into paying a cloud-type membership fee to store what boils down to a few numbers and stats.
 

CuteFaceJay

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I can’t possibly understand being obsessed with Pokemon enough to pay a fee (is it monthly? Yearly?) to keep your critters accessible on all new games. Personally, I’m fine with completing a game and leaving all aspects of it behind.

Maybe this fanbase has different needs though.

If it was a one-time fee to upload your Pokemon, maybe. It’d be kind of nifty to have some old Pokemon, but that’s the extent of my interest. I’m certainly not into paying a cloud-type membership fee to store what boils down to a few numbers and stats.
I didn't mind doing it with Pokemon Bank with X & Y moving my GBA & DS pokemon to 3DS but this new one feels like they really trying their best to milk the games. I mean they have pretty much put up a paywall for features that were in past games back during the DS days.

It's a neat idea but I'm pretty sure with all that user data they are pulling from our mobile phones that is enough to cover the costs of running it and gaining profits is it not?
 

Saberyoko

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Charging people to transfer their pokemon to new games is one of the many reasons I have so little interest in the series now.
People constantly sucking their dicks for every move they do is one of main reasons this is a thing.

I bet they could create nazi pokemons and people would still support them.
 
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Mozza

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So this will tend to go one way, everybody on internet forums will say how poor value the service is and say they have no interest, while at the same time suggesting the service only exists because the new Pokemon games had so few Pokemon available in the first place, in reality everyone else will just subscribe and have no issues with this service, just the same as with the sales of the latest Pokemon games, of course all the internet will say they have the moral victory here, for what it's worth. ;)
 
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Lanrutcon

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So this will tend to go one way, everybody on internet forums will say how poor value the service is and say they have no interest, while at the same time suggesting the service only exists because the new Pokemon games had so few Pokemon available in the first place, in reality everyone else will just subscribe and have no issues with this service, just the same as with the sales of the latest Pokemon games, of course all the internet will say they have the moral victory here, for what it's worth. ;)
Stupid people exist in large quantities. More news at 11.
 

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As much as I like Sword, it is a shame you can't move your whole collection forward anymore.
My team, including Pokemon moved forward from as far back as Diamond/Pearl, are all trapped in the Sun cartridge purgatory for all eternity. :(
 

Shaqazooloo

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So this will tend to go one way, everybody on internet forums will say how poor value the service is and say they have no interest, while at the same time suggesting the service only exists because the new Pokemon games had so few Pokemon available in the first place, in reality everyone else will just subscribe and have no issues with this service, just the same as with the sales of the latest Pokemon games, of course all the internet will say they have the moral victory here, for what it's worth. ;)
I mean, you're right, but I kind of hate that you're right.

I can’t possibly understand being obsessed with Pokemon enough to pay a fee (is it monthly? Yearly?) to keep your critters accessible on all new games. Personally, I’m fine with completing a game and leaving all aspects of it behind.

Maybe this fanbase has different needs though.

If it was a one-time fee to upload your Pokemon, maybe. It’d be kind of nifty to have some old Pokemon, but that’s the extent of my interest. I’m certainly not into paying a cloud-type membership fee to store what boils down to a few numbers and stats.
Unfortunately i've invested too much time to just let go. I completed the Pokedex for Soulsilver, White and Y (didn't bother with Moon...) and I tend to horde a lot of Pokemon, so much so I nearly run out of room for all of them in each game and now that I want to get into competitive I sort of feel it's actually necessary to have multiples.

Sigh* I thought I was out after I dropped Alpha Sapphire 2 gyms in and Moon after 3, but here I am.

We'll see where i'm at next year, at least I finally used up my Gold points.
 
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Lanrutcon

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I will try to keep up, but surely it's your own personal opinion at the end of the day, if people have no issues with the service why are they wrong?.
They are free to spend their money as they please.

Just as I am free to judge them for spending it on this crap.

Some people have no issues stuffing themselves full of McDonalds on a daily basis until they need a golf cart just to cross a room.
 
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Saberyoko

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I actually find stunning the "internet forum" argument, even though you are here on an internet forum.

No shit people are stupid to buy lol, whats next? Rock is hard? As far I remember people are free to spend their money in whatever the crap they want(remember fans buy bathwater from a popular girl?). Doesn't make the crap less crap and stupid people less stupid.

And then there are few people who says that won't be buying and people be like "nonono you already buy it because numbers says otherwise".
 

Mozza

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They are free to spend their money as they please.

Just as I am free to judge them for spending it on this crap.

Some people have no issues stuffing themselves full of McDonalds on a daily basis until they need a golf cart just to cross a room.
Just as I am free to say it's not a crime for people to have no issues with this service, like most people have no issues with the latest Pokemon games, it's only a very vocal internet minority that's up in arms about any of this, but like you say there are a lot of stupid people out there in golf cart's chomping on burgers and fries. ;)
 
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Lanrutcon

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Just as I am free to say it's not a crime for people to have no issues with this service, like most people have no issues with the latest Pokemon games, it's only a very vocal internet minority that's up in arms about any of this, but like you say there are a lot of stupid people out there in golf cart's chomping on burgers and fries. ;)
Oh, I won't dispute the numbers. The sales figures speak for themselves: I doubt everyone who had an issue with the latest game didn't buy it.

But I won't.
 

Mozza

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I actually find stunning the "internet forum" argument, even though you are here on an internet forum.

No shit people are stupid to buy lol, whats next? Rock is hard? As far I remember people are free to spend their money in whatever the crap they want(remember fans buy bathwater from a popular girl?). Doesn't make the crap less crap and stupid people less stupid.

And then there are few people who says that won't be buying and people be like "nonono you already buy it because numbers says otherwise".
I am assuming this in reply to me, just because we are on an internet forum does not mean we can't disagree with people refuse to see any point of view that differs from their own.
 
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Mozza

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Oh, I won't dispute the numbers. The sales figures speak for themselves: I doubt everyone who had an issue with the latest game didn't buy it.

But I won't.
Fair enough nobody is forcing anyone to opt into any of this, but if people have no issues just leave em to it, that's my view anyway.
 
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Saberyoko

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I am assuming this in reply to me, just because we are on an internet forum does not mean we can't disagree with people refuse to see any point of view that differs from their own.
You didn't disagree buddy. You went all the way down to smartass post, acting as if saying bad things about a bad business model doesn't matter because "salez". You even had the generosity of playing the "everyone will just subscribe anyway" card.
 
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Lanrutcon

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Fair enough nobody is forcing anyone to opt into any of this, but if people have no issues just leave em to it, that's my view anyway.
There I disagree with you. Since voting with my wallet isn't doing anything, you goddamn bet your ass I'm going to call out the <expletive involving clowns and fecal matter> who are supporting this bullshit.

They're welcome to ignore me as they ensure that Gamefreak will pull even more ridiculous shit in the future by throwing cash at them.
 
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Mozza

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You didn't disagree buddy. You went all the way down to smartass post, acting as if saying bad things about a bad business model doesn't matter because "salez". You even had the generosity of playing the "everyone will just subscribe anyway" card.
Smartass post or not, it's still true.
 
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Mozza

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There I disagree with you. Since voting with my wallet isn't doing anything, you goddamn bet your ass I'm going to call out the <expletive involving clowns and fecal matter> who are supporting this bullshit.

They're welcome to ignore me as they ensure that Gamefreak will pull even more ridiculous shit in the future by throwing cash at them.
You can call them out all you like, but as you say with sales as they are I am nor sure this will change much, surely it's better to just move on and not dwell on things.
 
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Mozza

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You didn't disagree buddy. You went all the way down to smartass post, acting as if saying bad things about a bad business model doesn't matter because "salez". You even had the generosity of playing the "everyone will just subscribe anyway" card.
Just because you and others do not like these games and the home feature, and feel that it's a bad business model etc, does not make you right as it's all down to personal opinions, it's just like with the sales of the latest games, if they had bombed the haters wold have seen it as proof of all their issues, but when they sell well they spin it as everybody is stupid and does not have their high standards, give me a break fella. ;)
 
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Smartass post or not, it's still true.
No shit Sherlock. Are you one of the fellas who says "you gonna buy it anyway" for any kind of criticism? Anyway, its not like I pick those games and support the app so I'm not sure anything you said its even valid.

Also whats up with quoting me twice lol?
 
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Mozza

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No shit Sherlock. Are you one of the fellas who says "you gonna buy it anyway" for any kind of criticism? Anyway, its not like I pick those games and support the app so I'm not sure anything you said its even valid.

Also whats up with quoting me twice lol?
No far from it, but you can't always ignore a games sales just because it does not support your own hatred of a particular game, the fact is the mass market Pokemon fans are having fun with this game, the older generation of fans just need to move on if they do not like it, and buy something that suits their need more, not saying they can't complain but at some point you just have to let it go.
 
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Saberyoko

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the fact is the mass market Pokemon fans are having fun with this game
Gee, now I see where you getting lmfao

If you want to discuss, then good. Sit down and then we discuss about the good and the badies this can ever offer. Other than that, good luck trying to find that anything is "stop hating the things I have fun".
 
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Mozza

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Gee, now I see where you getting lmfao

If you want to discuss, then good. Sit down and then we discuss about the good and the badies this can ever offer. Other than that, good luck trying to find that anything is "stop hating the things I have fun".
As I have said the new Pokemon games are fine and the sales figures show that clearly, if you can't grasp that I can't help you.
 
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Saberyoko

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As I have said the new Pokemon games are fine and the sales figures show that clearly, if you can't grasp that I can't help you.
In no point I doubt otherwise(you can read my posts if you like, take your time). I think you have to try a different thing. At this point you didn't wanted to discuss either, which is kinda sad.
 
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Spukc

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Nintendo can fuck right off allowing this sheit.
Can't only blame the pokemon company for this crap.

Isn't this the reason i pay for nintendo online?

You have to be the biggest fing tool to support this shit.
 
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Mozza

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In no point I doubt otherwise. I think you have to try another thing. At this point you didn't wanted to discuss, which is kinda sad.
There is little to no point discussing these latest games, the people that have grown up with the franchise have issues they will never be able to get passed, hell I do understand they are upset about it and in no way are saying that on a personal level their complaints are not valid, but you can't really blame GameFreak for making a kids game with it's main demographic in mind.

I have also grown up with the franchise and have been buying these games from the start, and while these latest games are not perfect, they are far from the train wreck some are stating.
 
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MagiusNecros

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Didn't they have something like that in GO(I don't play Go, so I got no idea).

And fear not, you're not far from it.
I wouldn't know. I don't touch GO. Probably because it's garbage. Garbage that probably generates a lot of revenue though.
 
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Saberyoko

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I wouldn't know. I don't touch GO. Probably because it's garbage. Garbage that probably generates a lot of revenue though.
I know, me neither. But judging their business model and interactions with it, what you said its pretty much like the future of their games. I can easly picture a virtual Pokemarket place inside the game, where you can buy things with real money. Things like pokeballs, exp boosts, capture boosts, etc.
 
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MagiusNecros

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I know, me neither. But judging their business model and interactions with it, what you said its pretty much like the future of their games. I can easly picture a virtual Pokemarket place inside the game, where you can buy things with real money. Things like pokeballs, exp boosts, capture boosts, etc.
Wouldn't put it past them down the road. Especially since their new IP Little Town Hero tanked pretty bad. They can't keep pulling features and relying on one off gimmicks each installment. It's going to stagnate if they keep it up.

When I reflect I feel like Pokemon is a janky ass MMO you keep on shelling out money for. You pretty much rush PvE and get forced into PvP for tournaments or Battle Tower/Frontier nonsense. Feels very lacking over time.

Last Pokemon that felt good to me was SoulSilver/HeartGold.
 

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I'm surprised Pokemon still isn't filled with microtransactions and loot boxes. It would make them so much money and the vast majority of the fanbase wouldn't give a fuck. Pokemon is one of those franchises that exists on a parallel tier, like sports games.

Make like "miracle pokeballs" or something with a random pokemon in them and a higher chance of it being a shiny. Or cut down the number of Pokemon but bring back the whole dressing them up thingy with tons of cosmetic options, or some XP boost system, or like a Pokepass with rewards you get for completing different challenges
 
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I'm surprised Pokemon still isn't filled with microtransactions and loot boxes. It would make them so much money and the vast majority of the fanbase wouldn't give a fuck. Pokemon is one of those franchises that exists on a parallel tier, like sports games.

Make like "miracle pokeballs" or something with a random pokemon in them and a higher chance of it being a shiny. Or cut down the number of Pokemon but bring back the whole dressing them up thingy with tons of cosmetic options, or some XP boost system, or like a Pokepass with rewards you get for completing different challenges
I think the main issue is that with the core internet posting gamers any mobile type transaction based model is rubbish, and anyone who has no issues with it is stupid, they always fail to realize that i's just a different perspective on the matter, my wife and daughter play Roblox and do from time to time purchase stuff that does add up, if I buy a game at $60 or so they see this as expensive, but that does not make any of us correct, it just our own point of view at the end of the day.
 
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DGrayson

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I dont play Pokemon but I always hate when companies downgrade services and put them behind a paywall. Really irks me. I cant think of anytime I actually paid for bullshit like that but I assume lots of people do cause it still keeps happening.
 

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I'm currently testing the basic plan and to be frank, I'm not impressed. The amount of trades happening on this app hardly kicking off takes like all day for the wonder box system to trade my pokemon off.

The Random Trade Room seems to be buggy and either kicks me out after waiting around 30 seconds or hits 0 and kicks me. No idea what that is all about.

They've segmented the features that would have been in the game and used by all who have the games onto the phone where I don't think the community give a crap enough to download the app.

400k trades in 1 day for a game where they apparently sold 16mil. Something doesn't add up.
 
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I'm currently testing the basic plan and to be frank, I'm not impressed. The amount of trades happening on this app hardly kicking off takes like all day for the wonder box system to trade my pokemon off.

The Random Trade Room seems to be buggy and either kicks me out after waiting around 30 seconds or hits 0 and kicks me. No idea what that is all about.

They've segmented the features that would have been in the game and used by all who have the games onto the phone where I don't think the community give a crap enough to download the app.

400k trades in 1 day for a game where they apparently sold 16mil. Something doesn't add up.
This is basically my take as well (I'm on premium) I'll add that the GTS is essentially the same as its always been and faces the same issues with trading. Lots of people depositing regular Pokémon and asking for legendaries.

They don't allow you to filter through the forms that certain Pokémon have, ex: if you want to get a galarian Meowth you'd end up searching through his 3 regional forms.

I tried trading a few times but it wouldn't go through on specific trades even though I had the right Pokémon.

Getting Pokémon from the Bank or Let's Go worked well so there's that.

Overall, this was about what I expected. Minimal effort.