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[Red Blaster]

Are some of you letting the FUD factory of Phee Phee + Diablol get to you?

Obama's getting over 300 EV, easy.

 

[Tim-E]

Are some of you letting the FUD factory of Phee Phee + Diablol get to you?

Obama's getting over 300 EV, easy.

Nope. I'm confident he'll win with more than 300.

 

[Atilac]

btw, it's pretty cool when you have stalkers from other message boards (who probably post here) call you out on that other message board. They drop your GAF name in threads, waiting for you to fess up, then when you confront them about who they are, you get called a bitch and given some vague ban threat.

Class act, whoever you are. I have a feeling you aren't just a lurker.

Say what?

 

[Cloudy]

I wonder if Gallup goes to a LV model today or they wait till Monday?

 

[Cloudy]

Colorado is one of the few I think is a pure toss-up, but I think Obama will squeak out a win there.

Didn't Obama win CO by 9 last time? You'd think that'd be more likely to go blue than OH considering the Hispanic population

 

[AlteredBeast]

I wonder if Gallup goes to a LV model today or they wait till Monday?

What does it matter? Gallup is one of the worst pollsters for presidential elections. Might as well wonder when Purple Strategies and Ras are going to change methodology.

 

[Cloudy]

What does it matter? Gallup is one of the worst pollsters for presidential elections. Might as well wonder when Purple Strategies and Ras are going to change methodology.

There are no other credible daily polls on weekends (Sorry Ras) and even if they are off, we should be able to see signs of a Romney bump by comparing it to the pre-debate numbers

 

[Diablos]

Say what?

Not to take the thread off track here, but yeah, I've got some clown over at a Smashing Pumpkins messageboard I post at maybe two or three times a year these days, who apparently has a strange obsession with me. He claims to have found "parallells" that suggest I'm Diablos based on what I assume to be lurking, but then kind of slipped up when he also said I am a concern troll and to "keep it up and see where it gets you, bitch", implying that I might get banned perhaps based on "several banning requests". I'm not a troll. I know I worry a bit but it's not like I'm PD doing my thing in here for fun.

Real classy that he has to hide behind a different name and not admit to who he is but still make petty threats -- on another message board.

Creepy and sad.

 

[The Librarian]

Not to take the thread off track here, but yeah, I've got some clown over at a Smashing Pumpkins messageboard I post at maybe two or three times a year these days, who apparently has a strange obsession with me. He claims to have found "parallells" that suggest I'm Diablos based on what I assume to be lurking, but then kind of slipped up when he also said I am a concern troll and to "keep it up and see where it gets you, bitch", implying that I might get banned perhaps based on "several banning requests." I'm not a troll. I know I worry a bit but it's not like I'm PD doing my thing in here for fun.

Real classy that he has to hide behind a different name and not admit to who he is but still make petty threats -- on another message board.

Creepy and sad.

Diablos...

 

[Tamanon]

There are still Smashing Pumpkins message boards?

 

[Aaron Strife]

Not to take the thread off track here, but yeah, I've got some clown over at a Smashing Pumpkins messageboard I post at maybe two or three times a year these days, who apparently has a strange obsession with me. He claims to have found "parallells" that suggest I'm Diablos based on what I assume to be lurking, but then kind of slipped up when he also said I am a concern troll and to "keep it up and see where it gets you, bitch", implying that I might get banned perhaps based on "several banning requests". I'm not a troll. I know I worry a bit but it's not like I'm PD doing my thing in here for fun.

Real classy that he has to hide behind a different name and not admit to who he is but still make petty threats -- on another message board.

Creepy and sad.

Pretty bizarre.

Spoiler

it's not me

 

[tranciful]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9G8XREyG0Q

Thought this was a good motion graphic. An animated short about the big choice in 2012's presidential election by Simpsons / Family Guy animator Lucas Gray

 

[empty vessel]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...O-Reports-Deficit-is-down-another-200-Million

Matching the good news on the Jobs numbers along with the report that the Obama Administration just took in a record $181 Million in donations in September, the CBO - at the close of FY2012 - is reporting that the Federal Deficit has dropped another $200 Billion to a level of $1.1 Trillion - which is the lowest level it has been since 2008 when the Financial Crisis began.

...

So Jobs and the Economy is Up, the Stimulus is Down. Result? The Deficit is down even more than CBO expected it to be. Their current projection for 2013 is that the deficit will be just $641 Billion (Otherwise known as the "Half" that President Obama promised it to be by the end of his first term, although that assumes the current law continues to take effect which includes the complete ending of all the Bush Tax cuts, the Payroll Tax Cuts and Drastic Sequestration)

A lot more details at the link.

edit:
CBO link
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43656

That's not good news, that's bad news. It's sad that "progressive" sites trumpet the conservative premise that deficits are per se bad and, as a result, advocate austerity. Will real progressives please stand up?

 

[DMczaf]

Not to take the thread off track here, but yeah, I've got some clown over at a Smashing Pumpkins messageboard I post at maybe two or three times a year these days, who apparently has a strange obsession with me. He claims to have found "parallells" that suggest I'm Diablos based on what I assume to be lurking, but then kind of slipped up when he also said I am a concern troll and to "keep it up and see where it gets you, bitch", implying that I might get banned perhaps based on "several banning requests". I'm not a troll. I know I worry a bit but it's not like I'm PD doing my thing in here for fun.

Real classy that he has to hide behind a different name and not admit to who he is but still make petty threats -- on another message board.

Creepy and sad.

Maybe it's FMT's ex-gf.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Why don't you let Detective GAF handle it?

 

[Cloudy]

Gallup 49(-1) - 46(+1) O

 

[Diablos]

There are still Smashing Pumpkins message boards?

lol yeah. I said the same thing in the political thread there. It's a miracle that such a steaming pile of shit is still online.

Oddly enough, his posting style is similar to PD's. Then again that's how everyone posts on that board, myself included, because I don't think anyone really gives a damn about how they are perceived since no one goes there.

Aaron: Yeah, detective GAF could handle it, but I doubt it's worth the trouble.

 

[soul creator]

subscribed

 

[Tamanon]

lol yeah. I said the same thing in the political thread there. It's a miracle that such a steaming pile of shit is still online.

Oddly enough, his posting style is similar to PD's. Then again that's how everyone posts on that board, myself included, because I don't think anyone really gives a damn about how they are perceived since no one goes there.

Aaron: Yeah, detective GAF could handle it, but I doubt it's worth the trouble.

Now I have a sudden urge to call PD Melancholy, and you The Infinite Sadness.

 

[Diablos]

Gallup 49(-1) - 46(+1) O

Dat approval, still at >50.

 

[Averon]

I thought Gallup already switched to LV.

 

[Hop]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...2_vs_election_2004_eight_years_ago_today.html

Bush and Obama with identical lead at this point

Also note that both Obama's and Romney's raw percentages are higher than Bush/Kerry's.

In other words, fewer undecideds. Less wiggle room.

 

[Cloudy]

I thought Gallup already switched to LV.

They haven't according to RCP

 

[Black Republican]

Gallup 49(-1) - 46(+1) O

just 4 more weeks of polls and gaffes and poligaf will have nothing to do!

Spoiler

nah the lead up to Obama's Inauguration will be awesome

 

[Particle Physicist]

I thought Gallup already switched to LV.

I could have sworn so as well. Maybe I misread it somewhere.


And Diablos, that is pretty creepy. One of the reasons why I try not to give too much personal info on here, some people are just plain weird/crazy.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

So PPP WI drops tonight:

@ppppolls
Romney has definitely gained since our last Wisconsin poll, just a question of the magnitude. We'll tell you tonight

Obama was +7 last time. I would be happy with Obama +4 now after that debate.

 

[Stinkles]

That's not good news, that's bad news. It's sad that "progressive" sites trumpet the conservative premise that deficits are per se bad and, as a result, advocate austerity. Will real progressives please stand up?

Austerity is bad for an economy. Although I suppose that's a consequence of scale. Individual austerity is great for individual households. However, deficits can be a problem. They're contextualized by other aspects of the host economy. In this case, and in some of the European examples, deficits are not an issue, but they're not by necessity harmless or positive. They are contextual and the context shifts. Not arguing, just expanding your thought.

 

[Diablos]

Maybe it's FMT's ex-gf.

Now he claims to be a former mod and saying he can get me permabanned whenever he wants.

I'm just going to stop talking about it in here as it has absolutely nothing to do with the thread. PM me if you feel so compelled to talk more.

---

PPP WI poll should be interesting, I'm thinking maybe R +1-2, no more than 3.

 

[empty vessel]

Austerity is bad for an economy. Although I suppose that's a consequence of scale. Individual austerity is great for individual households. However, deficits can be a problem. They're contextualized by other aspects of the host economy. In this case, and in some of the European examples, deficits are not an issue, but they're not by necessity harmless or positive. They are contextual and the context shifts. Not arguing, just expanding your thought.

Right. It's the treatment of deficits as per se (inherently) bad and a scourge to avoid or minimize that is grating, particularly when done by self-professed progressives. That Daily Kos post assumed as an unstated premise that deficits are bad and that lowering deficits--i.e., reducing annual net government spending, which is what lowering an annual deficit means--is good. No argument or demonstration needed. On a progressive website no less! This is a wholesale adoption of a fundamentally conservative economic belief (which, as many contemporary conservative beliefs are, is wholly faith-based).

Edit: I should add, when I said the news about smaller deficits was bad news and not good news, that was a contextual assessment and not made in a vacuum. We have high unemployment, and that always means that net government spending is too low yet the article celebrates upcoming reductions in net government spending.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Pretty bizarre.

Spoiler

it's not me

The jig is up, pal.

 

[Aaron Strife]

The jig is up, pal.

Curses, foiled again.

 

[Oblivion]

http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/10...n-the-house-science-committee-with-todd-akin/

Well, then.

 

[polyh3dron]

btw, it's pretty cool when you have stalkers from other message boards (who probably post here) call you out on that other message board. They drop your GAF name in threads, waiting for you to fess up, then when you confront them about who they are, you get called a bitch and given some vague ban threat.

Class act, whoever you are. I have a feeling you aren't just a lurker.

Come on you didn't need to put me on blast like THAT...

 

[Paches]

http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/10...n-the-house-science-committee-with-todd-akin/

Well, then.

This might take the cake:

Okay, but maybe Akin and Broun are just outliers? Presumably the Chairman of the House Committee on Science and Technology believes in, you know, science and technology, right? Actually, the Chairman, Ralph Hall (R-TX), does not believe in climate change, because he’s more afraid of freezing to death than being too warm? Or something like that?

"I’m really more fearful of freezing. And I don’t have any science to prove that. But we have a lot of science that tells us they’re not basing it on real scientific facts."

Good God almighty.

 

[norinrad]

Now he claims to be a former mod and saying he can get me permabanned whenever he wants.

I'm just going to stop talking about it in here as it has absolutely nothing to do with the thread. PM me if you feel so compelled to talk more.

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PPP WI poll should be interesting, I'm thinking maybe R +1-2, no more than 3.

We will need to call a mental institution IF Barry loses the election which i highly doubt

 

[RustyNails]

This might take the cake:



Good God almighty.

Welcome to US politics

 

[Oblivion]

Was this posted already? Paul Ryan sez 60% of Americans are "takers":

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...rcent-of-a_n_1943073.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

 

[Effect]

German news media seems to flat out call Romney a liar.

If only American media wasn't so damn spineless.

 

[TacticalFox88]

If only American media wasn't so damn spineless.

If the media in this country did its job we'd honestly have a one party state in which the GOP in its current state couldn't hold ANY power whatsoever

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Was this posted already? Paul Ryan sez 60% of Americans are "takers":

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...rcent-of-a_n_1943073.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Obama campaign hasn't gone after Paul Ryan as hard as I thought they would.

 

[Black Republican]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRPTNaTaRvU

O_O

 

[Chumly]

Welcome to US politics

It's amazing how republicans have latched onto the anti science movement.

 

[norinrad]

Welcome to US politics

haha

 

[empty vessel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRPTNaTaRvU

O_O

Wow, that guy could be a reporter for Pravda in the Soviet era. Straight fabrication.

 

[Hobbestetrician]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRPTNaTaRvU

O_O

I like how he doesn't believe the 7.8% but is more than willing to trumpet the unemployment numbers for minorities and youth as cold, hard truth bombs.

 

[PhoenixDark]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRPTNaTaRvU

O_O

So why would Obama just change the UE rate instead of also changing the 114k number to something more respectable, like say 150k?

 

[empty vessel]

So why would Obama just change the UE rate instead of also changing the 114k number to something more respectable, like say 150k?

He doesn't even get that the unemployment rate and the job creation numbers are independent and based on different data sets. Revisions to prior job estimates (which are routine and part of the monthly process every month) based on the establishment survey have nothing to do with the reported unemployment rate, which is calculated from independent data based on the household survey.

 

[thefro]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/06/obama-and-democrats-raise-181-million-in-september/

So the first leak was low-balling it... Obama raised $181 million in September

 

[MasterShotgun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRPTNaTaRvU

O_O

I'm glad that the UE rate dropped below 8% in October instead of in November. The screams from the crazies would have been unbearable.

 

[Oblivion]

If Obama could manipulate the data, why wouldn't he have been manipulating it since the begining of his fucking term?