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Project Cars 1080p on PS4 - 900p on Xbox One. 60fps on both.
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Since it was lost in the bottom of the page, you can actually push it even further than 12K. With the in-game downsampling AA methood you can then downsample the 12K result from 4.5X resolution (9X pixels, DS9X AA Mode in-game) reaching a whopping 223 million pixels rendered per frame (4K is just 8 million pixels).
Because the people interested in the console version will probably play the game on a 1080p screen, where not using the native resolution has the consequence of altering IQ in a bad way?
Wouldn't be the first time if it happens the opposite too.
Because the people interested in the console version already know which versions they can play and don't need anybody telling them this or that?
Seriously. This resolution gate is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in gaming. Right now there're systems running 12k resolutions and people are fighting over 180 lines just to prove how superior their system is? It's laughable, to say the least.
IT'll be for multi monitor support
I don't see people "fighting" about this.
Given a choice, I'd rather play a game in my TV's native resolution than have to deal with the output of an upscaler, and for this reason, 1080p is a better choice than 900p or 768p. It's pretty simple, really.
This seems totally reasonable, given the rendering "budget" for each version. I do hope IQ is handled well across the board, and that the 60 fps is consistent. I don't want framerate jittering or screen-tearing going into a wide turn.
I'm excited at how this is coming along. The big track-list announcement put a lot of coal in my hype-train.
I'm excited at how this is coming along. The big track-list announcement put a lot of coal in my hype-train.
I don't think you want to use Forza as an example.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
What's this thread about, already?
Ah yes, it's about the resolution of the game on consoles.
Some people are interested in knowing what the game will be able to run at on the console(s) they own, and that's why such threads exist.
I was planning on throwing a 970 into my build but don't 4k monitors still cost a crapload?
Yeah, that's why you see people saying things such as PS4 version will have drops in framerate just because and posting lists of games on Xbox being 900p while 1080p on PS4... right...
Time to move on...
That's wasn't his point I think. The PS4 does not have an AF issue. Yeah I've seen the threads.
Forza 5 is a good example of a game running at ideal framerate/resolution with good presentation. Like they said, it's an indication it can be done, but obviously it's not a simple task.
^
Aliasing, though.
And as you may have noticed, these arguments were challenged, too.
Aliasing, though.
Such arguments aren't better or worse than saying 180 lines don't make a difference, like you did.
And as you may have noticed, these arguments were challenged, too.
Fiery Phoenix
Banned
The issue with Forza 5 is it had horrible AA, or basically no AA whatsoever. I think Horizon 2 looks and plays so much better despite being only 30fps.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
This happens far less often than people seem to think, but nothing wrong with seeing a proper comparison to decide which version to buy.
Fox Mulder
Member
yep, if you care about resolution so much play on PC.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I heard that after DX12 the XO version will run at 4k 120fps.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Or PS4 for 1080p.
biglittleps
Member
That secret sauce lol.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I'm pretty sure PCars will be considerably better looking than Forza 5.
Of course they could get Pcars to run at 1080p/60FPS on XboxOne, but in orer to achieve that they needed to downgrade the graphics and they're probably not willing to do that.
But who wants to be stuck in the 1080p stone age?
CyclopsRock
Member
I assume when they say "12k" they don't actually mean 12k but rather 3 4k's lined up next to each other. This will give a horizontal resolution of 12k but a vertical one of "only" that which exists on a 4k monitor - approx 2,000px.
Not that it's not insane, but when resolution's "double" the number of pixels on screen increases by 4x, where as in this example I think that's not the case.
Not that it's not insane, but when resolution's "double" the number of pixels on screen increases by 4x, where as in this example I think that's not the case.
biglittleps
Member
900p = 1600x900, not 1920x900.
Journey
Banned
That's a very condecending way of putting it lol.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, we kind of guessed the max potential of both consoles.
Sounds about right.
Sounds about right.
Forza's image quality was utter garbage though. The static lighting and 2D crowd sprites....
NoMoChokeSJ
Banned
Because it is allowed to happen.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
adamantypants
Member
12k wtf man. A 3x 4k monitor setup? Where's smokey at we need a guinea pig
pixelation
Member
Why?, has the issue been addressed?... honest question.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yes.
I expected this, but it still doesn't make the decision of which version to get any easier for me now that I have a PS4 as well.
Pros for PS4:
Higher resolution and (presumably) better IQ
Potentially bigger online community (but very few of my friends)
Remote play to Vita
Pros for X1:
General controller preference, particularly for racing games
More friends likely to be on X1 (but possibly smaller community as a whole)
So, for me at least, it comes down controller preference and friends versus visuals and remote play.
Pros for PS4:
Higher resolution and (presumably) better IQ
Potentially bigger online community (but very few of my friends)
Remote play to Vita
Pros for X1:
General controller preference, particularly for racing games
More friends likely to be on X1 (but possibly smaller community as a whole)
So, for me at least, it comes down controller preference and friends versus visuals and remote play.
According to those in-the-know, Sony released a bulletin informing developers on how to implement it. We've also had Dying Light and DMC patched adding AF with no performance hit.
Does he mean 3 x 4k monitors?
That's an unfair comparison given that Forza has about half the cars on grid, no dynamic Time of Day and lighting, no dynamic weather, less accurate tire simulation etc. Just because we are comparing two games of the same genre doesn't mean that they are even close to being comparable in terms of resources needed. pCars is also done with something like 1/10 of the budget with multiple platforms supported and a 3rd party developer.
Yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaN61w2BYLs
But the cloud/DX12/etc!
What is your problem?
Haha; Wouldn't make sense considering they could just use that "parity money" into Forza.
Ah silly comments -- anyway, it's good to see that more info is coming out. Seems like this won't get another delay.
I wonder what it would even look like if such a monitor existed. The windows on my house probably don't show me a 12k quality image.
but we also have to keep in mind forza was a launch game with a console where the sdk was in a very bad state to develop with.
Not if you just care about native display resolution. 95+% of the games on PS4 will be native 1080p.
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