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Project scorpio to be unveiled at E3
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partime
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They all got muddled together, but I was at E3 when they showcased the consoles (PS3 | 360)
Upside down? That's weird aren't ports usually placed at the bottom side of the console?
Anyway we'll find out at E3
When the console is upright. The motherboard will be on top with all the other components (disc drive, fan and cooling, and power supply underneath it. Hard drive looks like it will be set in its own cutout with disc drive under it when system is upright.
ThatOneGrunt
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Why does everyone think the price has to be $399 or $499 but nothing in the middle? Couldn't it launch at $449 or some other arbitrary amount? Wii U launched at $349.
Either way you're not going to see this console reach $499. I can almost guarantee it. Microsoft needs this thing to be viewed as an immediate success and they would never allow it to appear or resemble the X1's launch when Kinect came bundled with it. $499 would just create a Pavlov's dog like assumption Scorpio isn't worth it. And I'm willing to bet that MS would absorb some of the cost of the console in order to make the price more attractive. Scorpio has to leave the gate running. I think that's part of the reason why Phil Spencer has spent so much time saying it's a premium device. He's going to make it seem like an elite piece of hardware and then when he announces the price, people will be even more interested in buying it because it will be far less than what they expected. It will almost be like you're saving money at that point.
Either way you're not going to see this console reach $499. I can almost guarantee it. Microsoft needs this thing to be viewed as an immediate success and they would never allow it to appear or resemble the X1's launch when Kinect came bundled with it. $499 would just create a Pavlov's dog like assumption Scorpio isn't worth it. And I'm willing to bet that MS would absorb some of the cost of the console in order to make the price more attractive. Scorpio has to leave the gate running. I think that's part of the reason why Phil Spencer has spent so much time saying it's a premium device. He's going to make it seem like an elite piece of hardware and then when he announces the price, people will be even more interested in buying it because it will be far less than what they expected. It will almost be like you're saving money at that point.
DealWithIt
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I see the $399 rationale, but it applies equally to the Switch $200 or $250 people who were all wrong. I'm expecting some shock and dismay on this release too.
Nah fable legends was a beautiful game. Easily one of the best looking on Xbox one imo. And it was mechanically brilliant for several characters
If they make a fable 4 reusing assets and abilities I'm there day one.
The assets were utterly fantastic. The gameplay, not so much. If they made a single player Fable with those assets, I would definitely be in.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Fable Legends instead of a full fat Fable 4 was a baffling decision.
BoxManLocke
Member
That's not how this works.
Price is king in Nov-Dec. XB1S will be 150 to 250 dollars cheaper. It will oversell Scorpio by a very large margin and there isn't anything wrong with that.
Anyway, another E3 showing just confirms this thing will be $399.
I really enjoyed the actual depth of character unlike fable 3 it felt like a return to actual rpg roots. The crazy abilities made the game fun imo obviously.
Fable legends would be a great starting point for the next game imo
How hard would it be to port Anniversary or maybe a collection using the Legends engine?
SmoothRunningGun
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Play destiny 2 on the system that gets all the content.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
I played it. It wasn't great. They need to make a real fable game or let the franchise die.
They'd have to port them all to unreal 4 so I'm sure that would be extremely time consuming.
It really is not THAT much more than a PS4 Pro you know. Which can by now be produced for 299. So 399 is feasible.
Hawk269
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Agree. It did not play that great, but some of the visuals were pretty impressive. I would an open world Fable game, I think it would be a great game and if they follow a little bit of Zelda BOTW formula it could be pretty amazing.
Maxwell House
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That's simply not true. Microsoft always sells new consoles at a loss. The same will true with Scorpio...MS will sell them at cost or with a little loss per unit sold.
ATOMICJORGE
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Did you get your Invitation Gaf? Hype may now commence.
Some day I will attend to a E3 briefing that's my goal, one day I will
Maxwell House
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Scorpio's power level is a much more substantial jump over XBox One than PS4 Pro is over the PS4. They aren't really analogous situations.
Hawk269
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Agree with you and I own a 2xTitan X Pascal Gaming RIG and I game more on my consoles by far than I do on my RIG. Main reason is that I end up tweaking games way to much instead of just playing them. When I get a new PC game, I would say the first few hours if not longer is me running benchmarks, making tweaks, run more bench marks etc. I know a lot of fellow PC gamers do the same thing. On console, I load the game and play and that is it. I know some will scoff at that, but a lot of people spend considerable time tweaking settings to get to whatever the end goal of performance you want...while on console to me it is pop in and play.
I been around here a very long time, still don't get why PC is brought into a console discussion and even more so the console warriors posting there delightful insight in a thread for a console they have Zero interest in.
Hawk269
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Serious? Come on now. Obviously you have ZERO interest in Scorpio...so why exactly are you posting in a Scorpio thread?
edit...I normally NEVER look at someone's post history but a quick look pretty much reveals that you enjoy going into Scorpio threads to take a shit in them. So no surprise. You are my 1st ignore person since I joined GAF ages ago. Congrats!!!
Milly Osworth
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He has a point though. It's pretty unlikely that hardware power put Xbone in this bad spot. For MS to turn that around it needs gamezzzzz.
Xbox One had all the games at the start of the generation and sold like shit compared to PS4
Milly Osworth
Member
Okay, games and don't be evil. MS obviously screwed up Xbone at the start with the whole TV, DRM and Kinect BS. They got rid of all of that, but they still need big exclusives this E3.
Price, being seen as 'weaker' and hardware did.
MS had games. But they were mostly shit on because, of oh lets see what the narrative was around release. Resolution and whether a game was 1080p or not some people simply couldn't play a game if it was below that apparently.
Whole threads on Xbox One exclusives had concern trolling shitposting about 900p. I mean even the term 1080pr was a long running joke on gaf.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Yet FauxK will net you a ban I think
Hawk269
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While I think $399.99 is a good price point, the tech in this thing suggests it might be more. Also going by comments from Phil, they are not positioning Scorpio to be a leader in sales, they fully believe that for them, the Xbox One S will be the better selling system amongst the Xbox One family. While I am wishing for $399.99, I think it will be $499.99 or $449.99.
Did you get your Invitation Gaf? Hype may now commence.
Man whoever the graphic designer behind the decision to make the green lines on the images of the chip is a legit genius. Allows MS to rebrand the Xbox division as the place for 'hardcore' gamers while making the imagery of internal hardware components look cool as fuck.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Did you get your Invitation Gaf? Hype may now commence.
Got one but sadly can't attend 😥
Are they transferable because I would gladly go in your place...
Stripper13
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The victim complex on display in Xbox/Scorpio threads recently is getting embarassing.
Looking forward to seeing what MS unveil beyond the hardware itself. E.g. VR, launch titles and other features.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
No they are sent to outlets that are pre screened or whatever you want to call it.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
So Microsoft gets lambasted for having "no exclusives" and everyone has been downplaying Scorpio because "show us the games at E3" but Sony would have a great E3 with 3rd party multiplats?
Riiiiiiight.
Samurai G0SU
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Green and gold aye? Ahem* reminds me of something else
All talk. This is exactly the best way to establish the precedence that it will be expensive. Then you come out and punch them in the mouth when they least expect it. MS will, can. and, must sell this console fore no more then 399.99 plus tax. I don't care what tech is in there. This console has to be $399.99. You telling me when MS was winning NPD in October they weren't shouting it out?
If Phil comes out and says $499.99 I know the TimDogs will be like. Yay! More please!
Everyone else will be like:
I can wait.
I don't care who it's for. You think enthusiast were the only ones that bought the elite controller? Vice versa you really think MS only wants to sell a million of these? What type of profit were they expecting at what cost? A million buyers will not grow your eco-system alone especially if they are pre-existing customers with accounts and content who just upgraded boxes.
This seems like a reset for MS. Unlike Sony they are showing it at E3 that alone means they want the attention and buzz. This also show's confidence. If that eco-system is really kicking like that with EA, Game Pass, Play Anywhere, Refunds, and etc. Then price it at $399.99 so the growth and and new fans and come in. Phil can then just C- Walk off the stage.
I really feel it is imperative for MS to price this right. $399.99 is the sweet spot. Anymore then risk not moving units (outside the target) until a price drop and revisions. I've been wrong before.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Damn! Would have been fun to go to.
gaming_noob
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OT but is there two 'Marvel' posters on this forum?
Stripper13
Member
My comment is in relation not only to your post but the one you were replying to. There are plenty of posts recently that imply that Xbox has somehow been treated unfairly etc.
Personally I think it's getting old and seems to be occurring in every thread.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Yea I'm pretty bummed, just can't justify the cash to go.
While there is some truth to that, just because the Scorpio is capable of 4k doesn't mean the base PS4 is all-of-a-sudden going to be expected to produce sub-1080p games.
Since the majority of console gamers have 1080p TVs, the difference in power won't be as big a deal as the beginning of the generation when one couldn't even hit 1080p regularly. 4k TV owners will have the choice between 2 consoles that can hit 4k (whether checkerboard or otherwise), and without compelling exclusive software, it's going to be hard to convince many gamers to choose Scorpio if they're already well invested in another ecosystem.
People made a big stink about the Xbox One not hitting 1080p because a gaming console in 2013 was expected to do that easily.
Shit with just some of the services and options Microsoft will be giving to Scorpio owners, for some that may be enough to push em over. The games will come, no doubt about that. With everything they have been announcing, some folks are already saving up. I see a complete reversal with Scorpios release. I have all the consoles and im extremely excited for Scorpio, even though my PC trumps it.
Stripper13
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A complete reversal of what exactly.
tokenflipguy
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I can see this as an outcome unless they have new quality software.