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Project scorpio to be unveiled at E3
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Thinking that also for sure
And as you recall they announced the cheaper one ("starts at" $299) first, but the preorders for that didn't go live until a month after the more expensive one. I suspect they'd use the same approach again here.
Lol.
Fables over, tarnished and finished.
Microsoft destroyed Lionhead and had them work on that nonsense called Fable Legend.
Nope Scorpio will don't kid yourself , it has everything everyone wants and so much more XB1S will sell along side it ..but Scorpio will take the crown
SmackAttack
Member
Excited for E3 this year. Show off the beauty, Microsoft!
LordBaztion
Member
I'm fine with it, they earned it.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
As long as the price is reflected, obviously.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Price wins during the holidays. A $399(+?) console isn't going to outdo a console in the $200-250 range.
It's internal.
ODDI
Member
They have since the XB1s.
Why would they close several studios and cancel their exclusive games to then buy up other studios for exclusives. MS don't care for new exclusives. They have a tendency to buy studios but I don't think they are in a position for expansion at the moment. What I do see is them concentrating on their existing IPs and studios. A minecraft 2 or something to get the kids talking about the xbox. New Halo, new Forza, the usual stuff. MS is not about risk.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
The HYPE is REAL!
Credtis to Chris Metal for the gif
Credtis to Chris Metal for the gif
A $399 console with these specs will almost surely sell tons this holiday season, but you're right, cheaper consoles do sell more.
Herp Derpington
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You went where, 2015? I can't tell, your post was too edgy.
wapplew
Member
It's call restructure.
I think you are putting too much emphasis on specs. What Scorpio needs to prove is it's noticeably better than its competitors (including the one s). Diminishing returns is real, and even the PS4 pro doubling resolution over the base PS4 wasn't a monumental change. I recon that 40% more pixels will be hard to descern to a normal consumer.
DriftingSpirit
Member
That's a euphemism for cutbacks, right?
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Doesn't their entire 2017 lineup say different? Not to mention Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, reviving Killer Instinct, etc?
Their 2017 lineup? Those IPs died. They had big studio names and they died. Those were unknows for sure but risks they werent once they had the data.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
DriftingSpirit
Member
I think Sea of Thieves is their riskiest project by far.
I'm not seeing it in titles like State of Decay 2 and Crackdown 3.
Edit - Their current software looks to be about appeasing their core base. There isn't anything inherently wrong with that (and it is probably their most viable option from a business perspective) but it isn't risky either.
DasPenguin
Member
Yep, just like the PS4 Pro is outselling the Slim... oh wait.
If there's a clear price difference (and there will be), the cheaper model that plays the same games is the one the mass market will buy. The enthusiasts and gamers will most definitely get the more expensive model, but that's a very small portion of the market.
The only possible risk I see there is sea of thieves but again that's Rare. Risk would be opening a new studio to work on a new exclusive. They clearly aren't completely risk averse but when you look at the ips that have died, the games canceled and the studios closed they are not up for expansion and they are clearly taking less risks than the time the xb1 was revealed. A lot of those games are from that time.
wapplew
Member
One game cancelled another get greenlit. MS publish 3-4 big games every years, it's been that way for every long time.
They will fund new projects to make up with cancelled games.
We are talking about opening/buying studios mainly but the cancelled games and studio closures are anything but ordinary this gen. They have been greater than before, the delays greater, the number of greenlit games fewer each year. That's not to say nothing will get greenlit again though. I certainly hope not.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
From Phil's comments on Podcast Unlocked they're in the process of rebuilding their internal studios now that they've cleared some cap so to speak.
If MS wants to break out of the games ennui they are currently mired in, they are going to need to bet big on something risky. Sony is publishing games left right and center, while MS is just biding their time (?) which is not doing them any favors
Minecraft 2 could generate some hype, but it would take AGES to get it to something better or more robust than what's currently available. If they stick with Halo Gears Forza and a couple big budget indies, it's going to be a bloodbath. State of Decay 2 and Crackdown 3 are well-treaded ground, and Sea of Thieves looks like the only thing giving them game credibility at the moment besides their indie partnerships
gaming_noob
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Shannon Loftis and Spencer on twitter both hinted at this when Scalebound was cancelled.
HighResTomato
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I wonder how many new studios they could fund with the money they pump into 343.
It's been years and still they haven't proven themselves capable of carrying an IP as big as Halo.
SEGAvangelist
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What did Shannon Loftis say? I don't remember.
gaming_noob
Member
I just tried to look for it. It was around Jan 11 when they made it official that Scalebound was cancelled. I can't find it so now I'm thinking I may have misinterpreted a tweet. My bad.
Elwood Blues
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Didn't see this coming. At e3 of all places.
GodlyTwins
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Ya'll are crazy for thinking this will be $399. I just want MS to announce some great exclusives and explicitly demonstrate how powerful this console will be.
RedSparrows
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'Credibility'
What on earth does that mean in what context?!
What on earth does that mean in what context?!
PhilipDoesMatter
Member
My next console.
Disc slot will be on the same side as XB1/S. Hardware pic for Scorpio is upside down. MS as mentioned the back ports are in the same position as the XB1 S.
Elitist1945
Member
Fuck I got the XB1 a few months after launch and besides Halo: MCC and Halo 5 I didn't really enjoy the games it had, but everytime they announce a new Xbox I want to get it. I even got the XB1S which I only use for 4K movies (kudos to you, MS).
DealWithIt
Member
Why are so many people thinking this will run $399? Aren't the specs simply too high for that price?
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Random prediction.
Scorpio is an all black console and they'll add "...and to celebrate the unveiling of Scorpio (Xbox Whatever) we're happy to announce that the Xbox One S now comes in black"
Scorpio is an all black console and they'll add "...and to celebrate the unveiling of Scorpio (Xbox Whatever) we're happy to announce that the Xbox One S now comes in black"
LowParry
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MS has to be competitive in some say. And price is a big one. They have to have $399 for the price or it's DOA. But, on the flip side, how will Sony respond? Lower their Pro price? Either way, it's a win for everyone.
tareqsalah1
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I can see sony selling the pro this holiday season for 300 to 350 just to cut into scorpio sales. People in general will know that scorpio is better than ps4 but most would think ps4 pro is as powerful as the scorpio.
Copy & pasting from price discussion thread. I feel going above $399 would be a mistake if they want to remain somewhat competitive this gen.
Upside down? That's weird aren't ports usually placed at the bottom side of the console?
Anyway we'll find out at E3
LowParry
Member
I don't think your casual buyer is going to care what system does in terms of power. They're going to look at the games first and foremost. Though it'll be interesting since we're still fairly new to 4k, how much of that will factor in between the consoles.