Ok Thanks, I read on some site that said the opposite but it didn't seem the reputable. There really needs to be some form of continuity with these terms, cause it gets confusing as fuck haha.
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PS4's Automatic RGB setting is unreliable, so double check your TV / PS4
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Ok Thanks, I read on some site that said the opposite but it didn't seem the reputable. There really needs to be some form of continuity with these terms, cause it gets confusing as fuck haha.
It sure is confusing. But on normal you have a wider range while on low it would just crush the blacks. If you set your PS4 on full use normal on your Samsung.
Admiral Woofington
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I used to have a Samsung TV and that seems easy to find w/e setting I need to change. But my new bigger Philips tv has no such setting that I can see, and I have noticed in other games that the "don't see the item" brightness levels were screwy. Anybody has any ideas on a Philips TV?
MaximusPayne
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Same, I have mine sat at normal in my Samsung and auto on my PS4.
megabytecr
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This. Actually after lots of investigation on the net I found that you should set your TV to limited (on my LG it is Black Level to Low).
I did a test with my TV and it is easy to notice. Set your TV to whatever you want, then from automatic change it to your TV setting, your TV should not flicker because it is supposed to be the same. If it flickers then yes Automatic is not doing its job.
I did my test and mine is working right, I have both TV set to Limited while PS4 to automatic, when I change the PS4 to limited it does not flicker. I tried the other way around and it was also working, strange OP.
PC monitors should be set to Full.
If you're getting crushed blacks when RGB on PS4 is set to full, your TV setting is either wrong or your TV doesn't support RGB FULL.
Thanks. I just did this to see if it would accept the higher RGB range and it looks amazing.
I have Sony KDL-42W706 and I see no difference between limited and full when I change it in options on PS4. Picture is completely identical.
Now, the colors look really vibrant already (tested on Killzone), and black looks really good, no matter the option.
I should also mention that I can't find full/limited option on my TV. No idea what's it called. As soon as I hooked up PS4 to the TV (it's a 2014 model), it immediately recognized PS4 and set picture and sound to game mode. It looks really amazing on this setting, so should I assume that it has RGB range set to full?
Now, the colors look really vibrant already (tested on Killzone), and black looks really good, no matter the option.
I should also mention that I can't find full/limited option on my TV. No idea what's it called. As soon as I hooked up PS4 to the TV (it's a 2014 model), it immediately recognized PS4 and set picture and sound to game mode. It looks really amazing on this setting, so should I assume that it has RGB range set to full?
Yeah I have both full now and brightness up to 47, it looks far better.
The Lamonster
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Subbed for when I get my white PS4. Thanks!
Hidden One
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Wheres da video tutorial?
HawksWinStanley
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Let's call that "Xbox One Mode"
Oh snap.
Did that ever get fixed or is that still a problem on XB1?
Btw, I don't think it's "broken", I just think it works differently than expected.
Seeing as that "Automatic" is Limited for some people and Full for others I think that rather than reading what the TV is currently set to it reads something off a default of the EDID of your TV or Receiver and sets it to that.
Seeing as that "Automatic" is Limited for some people and Full for others I think that rather than reading what the TV is currently set to it reads something off a default of the EDID of your TV or Receiver and sets it to that.
Doctoglethorpe
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I tried this. Both limited and full appear the same to me. I'm pretty sure automatic is setting to full though, becuase when I go between either limited and auto or full and limited I get a black screen transition as it switches gears, but going between ufll and auto does nothing. *shrug*
I was having problems seeing the first three boxes though, on both my ps4 and my pc connected to the same tv. I cranked the brightness on my tv from 52 to 54 and can now see the squares.
So at the end of this little test all I can guess is that my TV has full RGB but my brightness was slightly lower then optimal. Neat I guess, but I'm still confused about my PS4 not showing any difference between the settings.
HomerSimpson-Man
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This is a great thing to let people know. I was trying to watch a movie I bought from Amazon Digital, and it was just absolutely crushing blacks when it was set to automatic which wasn't happening before. I set it to limited and it was back to it's beautiful detailed self again.
Yeah, setting it Automatic is iffy and borked.
Yeah, setting it Automatic is iffy and borked.
Fbh
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Ok so I'm confused now.
I have a 32 inch LG (32Le5500). I've had it for several years and it's decent.
So from what I gather the RGB range is called "black level" here. From a quick test I'm getting the best results by setting RGB on my Ps4 to limited and "Black level" to low.
Should that be right?
Also, reading this thread I just found out that changing the label on the HDMI ports somehow affects the image (I allways just asumed it was a minor aesthetic detail of changing the icon of that port).
There is a difference between setting it to game and PC but as someone who sucks at these things I can't put my finger on what it is. Does it somehow emulate a higher resolution when set to PC?. I made some tests in battlefield 4 and found some places where, for example, I'm looking at a house but if I set it to "PC" I actually also see a bit of the tree that is next to it (which I don't get to see if I have it set to "game")
Can anyone clarify this to me?
I have a 32 inch LG (32Le5500). I've had it for several years and it's decent.
So from what I gather the RGB range is called "black level" here. From a quick test I'm getting the best results by setting RGB on my Ps4 to limited and "Black level" to low.
Should that be right?
Also, reading this thread I just found out that changing the label on the HDMI ports somehow affects the image (I allways just asumed it was a minor aesthetic detail of changing the icon of that port).
There is a difference between setting it to game and PC but as someone who sucks at these things I can't put my finger on what it is. Does it somehow emulate a higher resolution when set to PC?. I made some tests in battlefield 4 and found some places where, for example, I'm looking at a house but if I set it to "PC" I actually also see a bit of the tree that is next to it (which I don't get to see if I have it set to "game")
Can anyone clarify this to me?
HomerSimpson-Man
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Remember, with TV's, when in doubt, set to Limited. Don't just set it to Full, it might not be in your TV's best interest to use FULL and can greatly compromise you picture until you can confirm check your settings for FULL support.
thatJohann
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If you're using Samsung LED with HDMI labeled as PC, you should set Samsung tv setting to NORMAL and PS4 to FULL. The colors are richer than I've ever seen. Try it.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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My TV rgb settings range from 0 - 248. It's set to 128 on r, g and b now. Is it considered limited?
Goodacre0081
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actually it's very easy to tell if your PS4 is set to Full RGB. the PS splash screen when you boot the console will go from grey(limited) to almost pitch black(full)
Jawbreaker
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PC Mode will always default to HDMI "Normal" on Samsung sets, so your PS4 should be set to HDMI "Full."
Aces&Eights
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Not sure as I'm at work. When you toggle through the options though you can easily see which ones look black and which ones are greyish.
Aces&Eights
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th4tguy
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Under advanced picture settings you'll find "wide color". Standard is limited and wide is full.
I was using auto on my ps4 and it was not right though I figured this out via another thread.
boredandlazy
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Sorry Op, but my PS4 works fine when set to automatic. Not sure whether the fact I have a Sony W900A 2013 TV makes a difference, but if I go to my PS4 video settings and switch from Automatic to limited the screen goes black for a second indicating that it's switching colour range. However if I switch from Automatic to full nothing happens. My TV is set to automatic.
Anecdotal of course.
Anecdotal of course.
lowhighkang_LHK
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Like I said, it seems the PS4's auto detect works with some TV models, while not with others (particularly those with computer monitors). If everything looks good on your end, mission accomplished. Don't fuck with it =)
lowhighkang_LHK
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Set your PS4 to full. If the image seems like the blacks are causing you to lose detail, then switch back to limited.
Also, remember when in doubt - pick limited on PS4, or just put it back to automatic.
Set your PS4 to auto and / or limited? Do you see the squares? Choose the PS4 RGB setting that lets you see the squares. If on full, you can't see any squares, that means your blacks are crushed.
Thx, friend!
lowhighkang_LHK
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This could be true. Considering by default, my BenQ was set to limited. So maybe the PS4 ignores whatever adjustments you made and inherently goes with your TV's out of box settings.
The bottom line is that this is something important people should toy around with. Remember, learning is fun. At the end of the day - if you can't figure it out, fuck it, put your PS4 back on automatic and hope your PS4 is doing it's job.
But for the most part, most TV manufacturers make it pretty easy to check what your TV is set as. And if you can figure out for sure what your TV is set as, then you might as well specifically set your PS4 to whatever it is and not have to worry about this auto nonsense to begin with.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Thanks I don't notice any difference so I'm setting it back to automatic
LookAtMeGo
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I have a samsung 5 series and I changed the input name to PC and set my ps4 to full RGB and turned the sharpness down to 25 and turned off all the dynamic contrast, black tone ect. holy crap its like having a new TV. Praise the sun for this thread.
Is it a big deal that I can no longer select Game mode? I dont even know what that did before.
Is it a big deal that I can no longer select Game mode? I dont even know what that did before.
I reset my picture modes, like I stated above, and on full the image with squares is completely black. When set to limited I can see the bottom rows but no more than that.
lowhighkang_LHK
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Try increasing your TV's brightness setting.
When you set your PS4 to limited, an overly dark image should never happen. Which tells me you should increase your brightness a little bit. But not too much when things start looking washed out.
nikos
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Normal on Samsung is Limited, low is Full, unless they changed it since I had a Samsung.
Wavering Radiant
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wow, thanks.
Just changed RGB to 'full' and wow! The blue of the background just got a whole lot more blue..
Reminds me of when I played PS3 on an HD TV for the first time.
..dem XMB sparkles..
Just changed RGB to 'full' and wow! The blue of the background just got a whole lot more blue..
Reminds me of when I played PS3 on an HD TV for the first time.
..dem XMB sparkles
..Yeah that means your tv supports full, and likely if you tweaked brightness/contrast it would probably show up, not that you want it to necessarily.
Ahh yeah cant do anything about that then.