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And patched, hopefully
CloakedPuppet
Member
Meh - based on Gerstmann's impressions I'll hang onto my pre-order. I got it for 30% off so $27.99 ain't a big risk for me.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Why feel sorry for them???
They made an average game.
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
Still getting it day on. Seems like a fun little romp, and I'm always down for something different. Plus female protag is always nice. Think it'll be a nice video gamey adventure.
dancrane212
Member
It's disappointing to see the game not do well but can't say I'm too surprised. I was pretty excited for the game when it was unveiled (and still am) but the second footage of the game rolled out it was easy to see it wasn't going to be of the scale that at least I was hoping for. Still looking forward to giving the game a shot though; hopefully it really clicks with me.
Salty Hippo
Member
Yeah, maybe you should go play a PS1 game again. It clearly has been a long time.
Well it was already delayed from initial "Spring 2016" window.
Seriously, what an insult to PS1.
Because I liked one of their games and there's nothing wrong with wishing a game studio the best
This is way better than The Order: 1886, that's for sure.
Still excited for it to arrive by my door tomorrow.
What a high bar
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Yeah, that was an unfair comparison for ReCore. They were never going to stand up to the PS1 greats.
I wonder if Armature Studio will keep trying to sell themselves as "The Makers of Metroid Prime" after this big mess.
Lol
They thought they could make the same quality content without Nintendo guidance.
Ninja Scooter
Member
something about it aesthetically reminds me of some of those MS first party original XBox offerings.
Mr Clutch
Member
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
That kicking open the chest animation is so goddamn weak.
The environments look so uninspired.
Can't tell if it's the video or not, but it looks stuttery. Not a smooth 60fps if the video is any indication, which it may not.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I think Brad mentioned it's smooth on his end so it's probably a streaming issue.
RadixNegative2
Member
Brad said it's locked 60fps on his end.
I wonder if Armature Studio will keep trying to sell themselves as "The Makers of Metroid Prime" after this big mess.
I wonder if anyone will have the nerve to write "From the legendary creator Keiji Inafune" in a game's video description after this big mess.
Diprosalic
Banned
did you miss the word "remaster"?
Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
Game is a lot of fun, horrible frame rate and atrocious loading times aside. Simplified open world gameplay with responsive controls. Usually don't care much for these types of games, but ReCore feels different. And it's just a blast upgrading your robot dog!
And yeah, it feels really old school, in a good way. To me, at least.
And yeah, it feels really old school, in a good way. To me, at least.
Looks good. Loading times are nice and quick indeed.
OrbitalBeard
Member
These scores should surprise absolutely no one. There's a reason Microsoft showed almost nothing on this game (outside of a small interior demo section) until last week.
Two and a half years is enough to create a good game with proper project scope for that timeframe.
Two and a half years is enough to create a good game with proper project scope for that timeframe.
NavyPharaoh
Member
Didn't this game have like 30 months of dev time? What did we expect?
Hispanic! At the Disco
Member
Game sharing with my cousin. $20 for each of us. Seems about what its worth
Salty Hippo
Member
I don't think you know what a remaster is. Maybe you meant remake? But even then, in terms of scope alone this game is above and beyond anything the PS1 could do. It's not a great looking game, but it looks and plays absolutely nothing like a PS1 game.
Schopenhauerian
Member
Most folks in this thread have focused solely on the mean score for Recore, and the relative position of its mean score within the distribution of mean scores of all reviewed games (Recore's mean score puts it in the bottom X% of all games). This puts exclusive emphasis on 'measures of center' (mean and median) for the purposes of characterizing the score distribution of an individual game. Other folks in this thread are effectively suggesting that there should (also) be an attempt to use 'measures of spread' (range and standard deviation) to characterize the score distribution of a game:
Similarly, for review sites like Metacritic to be as informative/helpful as possible, there should also be an attempt to show which (statistically-derived) 'types' of reviewers are at the high end of a score distribution for a particular game, and which reviewers are at the low end. Since certain types of reviewers will tend to agree with me more than other types, I can perhaps give each reviewer's score the proper weight, if I know their type:
Statistical derivation of reviewer 'types' might be a bit complicated, but one would at least need to start by associating scores with individual reviewers, rather than with whole publications (see Rotten Tomatoes): the tastes of two reviewers employed by GameSpot are not necessarily/likely any more similar to each other than any other two, randomly chosen reviewers. One could also do something more simple along these lines, like display a histogram of the score distribution, and display the name of a reviewer from each segment (high, low, middle) of the histogram.
Other folks in this thread who have made similar points:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216681009&postcount=685
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216664210&postcount=475
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216667107&postcount=554
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216656892&postcount=190
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216675345&postcount=649
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216668466&postcount=565
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216665721&postcount=513
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216662941&postcount=424
There are separate, but related problems with the use of scores in general, related to inconsistency (as discussed by Fdkn, above) in the basis used for the scores (e.g., how much the reviewer thinks the general public will like it, how much the reviewer thinks the target/niche audience will like it, how much the reviewer him/herself liked it, how much value it represents to the general public given its price and known technical deficiencies, and so on). From just this thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216692160&postcount=728
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216664933&postcount=494
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216665619&postcount=511
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216663516&postcount=439
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216666187&postcount=528
I wonder if Armature Studio will keep trying to sell themselves as "The Makers of Metroid Prime" after this big mess.
Who are the few guys on this forum who were even investing high hopes into Armature and Inafune to begin with?
They need to re-evaluate their value to the industry. "From the makers of Arkham Blackgate and some Vita ports" The talent obviously doesnt exist when Miyamoto isnt slapping them on the wrist.
Vic_Viper
Member
Where are his impressions read? Just his twitter post
That Final Fantasy VII port that came out on PC/PS4 last year would probably count as a PS1 remaster.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Most folks in this thread have focused solely on the mean score for Recore, and the relative position of its mean score within the distribution of mean scores of all reviewed games (“Recore's mean score puts it in the bottom X% of all games”
As far as I know Metacritic scores are also weighted for each contributor. As we don't know the individual weight of each reviewer this makes in-deep analyses quite hard. To negate the effect of outliers (e.g. a 1/10 score) they use the median, not the average (again, as far as I know).
The measure of spread doesn't really reflect the quality of a game itself. It just indicates if there is a consens on a game's quality, bot not the quality itself.
The question I wanted to answer was: Can we consider ReCore as an "average game for XBOX One", and at least the Metacritics score of currently 64 suggests it's not. Now, as I said on another current thread I am a huge fan of the Farming Simulator series and its bad reviews didn't stop me of having a lot of fun with it.
yeah that's probably the closest example of one
he's having a good time with the PC version, the Xbone version is shit
Vic_Viper
Member
What is the loop of the game. What are you doing throughout the game? Just shooting Robots and doing the dungeons? Not trying to sound pessimistic, truly curious after watching the GB stream.
It kinda looks like a Metroid/Zelda game with a Diablo style loop. Although im not a big fan of how the loot system is stat based only and doesnt change your armor. Atleast it does change the pets. Not sold on it just yet but I might just get it anyway.
When can downloading begin on PC and it doesnt go live till 12 pm (PST) right?
Edit: Also any word on length?
It kinda looks like a Metroid/Zelda game with a Diablo style loop. Although im not a big fan of how the loot system is stat based only and doesnt change your armor. Atleast it does change the pets. Not sold on it just yet but I might just get it anyway.
When can downloading begin on PC and it doesnt go live till 12 pm (PST) right?
Edit: Also any word on length?
Seems like it's clocking in around 10 hours for most people, though it's a padded 10 hours due to how they gate the endgame.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
At least they were smart in realizing this was not a game that could justify a $60 price tag.
Also, the press and the marketing team have to let those Metroid Prime roots die. Armature has had its time to outgrow that shadow and they have failed. It really shouldn't be brought up again.
Also, the press and the marketing team have to let those Metroid Prime roots die. Armature has had its time to outgrow that shadow and they have failed. It really shouldn't be brought up again.
The post office either lost or mis-delivered an Amazon package today (or fucked up with their shipping numbers again), hopefully they don't tomorrow too so I can play they game on time.
I fucking wish I could just choose UPS or FedEx at checkout even if it costs a couple more bucks. I'm seriously getting sick of this shit.
chozen
Member
Lmao this must really be the case huh, Wish we coulda had that Metroid Prime game vs Sylux