Electret
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Now we're talking!
Doc also claimed Scorpio was shooting for 8TF, and that the rest of the world doesn't matter when it comes to console sales. So, uh, yeah...you win some, you lose some. Matt's legit, though.
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Remedy/505 sign 7.75M publishing deal for new 3rd person action game for PC/PS4/XB1
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Now we're talking!
Doc also claimed Scorpio was shooting for 8TF, and that the rest of the world doesn't matter when it comes to console sales. So, uh, yeah...you win some, you lose some. Matt's legit, though.
SatoAilDarko
Member
I wonder what are the games from their catalog that make up the 6 before this 7th one. Is American Nightmare one?
Always glad to see more single-player stuff.
After Microsoft's talk of expanded first-party development you would have thought getting another Remedy console exclusive would be in their interest.
Not really interested in Quantum Break at all but at least it was another Xbox One console exclusive that I could pick up.
Always glad to see more single-player stuff.
After Microsoft's talk of expanded first-party development you would have thought getting another Remedy console exclusive would be in their interest.
Not really interested in Quantum Break at all but at least it was another Xbox One console exclusive that I could pick up.
AgentOtaku
Member
QB was defenitely expensive, the TV show alone was not low budget considering the actors
brickarts295
Member
Might bad, I was talking about 505.
It's 505 Games. They can't afford much more.
Also, Remedy is not exactly an in demand studio, so this is about the level of publisher they can get.
Hesemonni
Banned
8TF Scorpio musings again?
Yeah, it was Shinobi. I'm not even saying that I think it's untrue. I'm just saying it's become a fact for a lot of posters and in turn has become the narrative for the state of MS.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Remedy are far and away my favourite dev. I look forward to anything they do, and going multi-plat can only be a good thing
Well, Remedy is already well-developed team with probably few mills in the bank. They have their engine done and expertise to quickly crank out a linear third person shooter game.
It will be fine.
Family Fry
Member
A lot of people are mentioning single player but no one has raised an eyebrow at this quote.
Episodic then...?
Episodic then...?
Well, as for publicly available information, consider the fact that their biggest moneymaker, Starbreeze, spent tens of millions of dollars buying themselves out of their contract with 505, and immediately reversed changes on the unpopular microtransactions that had been added into the game.
That's proof of nothing, of course. For all I know, Starbreeze used it as a PR move to maintain the game's popularity, pretending the big bad publisher they were no longer with was responsible.
But still... who spends that much money to leave their publisher?
I don't really feel comfortable sharing the details I've heard. Just that there were some people I spoke with who either didn't want to talk about their relationship, suggested I not pitch to 505, or told me things that left me concerned.
Emergent gameplay.
That's what Remedy's been talking about a LOT.
Also, they're doing the single-player for Crossfire 2, and since that's the biggest video game in the world after League... maybe they've learned some lessons there too.
I'd rather not be known as an insider, but I mean... I work in the industry, so you're wrong. I'll spoiler tag to avoid derailin, but feel free to read.
No, I said I thought it was dumb not to shoot for 8TF. I still think it's dumb not to shoot for 8TF. That's pure speculation, and I never, ever, ever claimed that Microsoft was shooting for 8TF. People keep repeating this and it's just as wrong now as it was then.
Most publishers I know only care about succeeding in the US. There's a weird "if it works in the American market, it works well" attitude. Given that America is the largest games market in the world, I get the logic. But now we're seeing a shift with a lot of pubs towards China, since it's rapidly becoming the second largest games market in the world. It's not my fault that a lot of pubs treat the rest of the world like an afterthought. Why do you think Gabe Newell talks about how publishers need to do better jobs localizing in Russia and stuff? A big part of the problem is that publishers don't care about non-American markets. If they localize for some European countries, you're lucky. Part of this has to do with annoying regulations, like Germany's whole "you have to put robots in your game instead of people" thing, but those rules are fading. Part of this has to do with widespread, false concerns about piracy that a lot of these publishers have. Most publishers don't care about their Brazilian and Russian sales figures. Hell, look at Australian price figures; they sure as hell don't care how poorly their games sell there.
Most publishers I know only care about succeeding in the US. There's a weird "if it works in the American market, it works well" attitude. Given that America is the largest games market in the world, I get the logic. But now we're seeing a shift with a lot of pubs towards China, since it's rapidly becoming the second largest games market in the world. It's not my fault that a lot of pubs treat the rest of the world like an afterthought. Why do you think Gabe Newell talks about how publishers need to do better jobs localizing in Russia and stuff? A big part of the problem is that publishers don't care about non-American markets. If they localize for some European countries, you're lucky. Part of this has to do with annoying regulations, like Germany's whole "you have to put robots in your game instead of people" thing, but those rules are fading. Part of this has to do with widespread, false concerns about piracy that a lot of these publishers have. Most publishers don't care about their Brazilian and Russian sales figures. Hell, look at Australian price figures; they sure as hell don't care how poorly their games sell there.
As for this thread: I was at GDC, I talked to a bunch of friends while I was there, some of them have worked with 505. Take that as you want. *shrug*
ethomaz
Banned
He is not an insider thought...
Yeah, I remember the shit-storm that happened back then. Be it Starbreeze or 505, those were some bullshit changes.
But considering that this is most likely a sp game, I'm not exactly too concerned about these types of things.
P7 isn't actually a singleplayer game. People are just incorrectly assuming that.
Polygon said:
Mmmmm, didn't know that. Has Remedy developed a multiplayer game before? I know they are developing the sp part of Crossfire 2, but I don't remember any mp game.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Glad Remedy keeps finding work but man, when did 505 grew so much?, Terraria must have made them crazy amounts of money
matrix-cat
Member
Bits N Pieces
Member
I get that, it just seems that compared to the sprawling budgets of AW and QB this seems a pretty paltry amount. They did recently hook up with some private investors though, right?
I suppose being a big Remedy fan I just hope that this new game, P7, carries the same scope and feel of their previous titles.
I'll be there day one regardless.
Hopefully, they're stretching their wings here and will do good work. Their last few games have been short, linear-only experiences, which just don't sell well.
LightOfTruth
Member
I hope these guys can find some success. Im in as long as there isnt TV stuff this time around.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
It's a tps Max Payne esque moba, got it.
It's not going to be the same thing. They won't have the money, resources, or time they had before.
It will be something new from Remedy.
It's roughly what Starbreeze is offering to most of the people it's worked with (Raid WWII and Psychonauts 2 both have $8m deals). Starbreeze worked with 505 in the past, so I'm wondering if that's why they do that.
Exactly how much money do you think they have to spend on things? That has to come from somewhere, you know.
I thought it was weird how active their social media became a few months ago. They kicked off a big hiring push and started tweeting about their company history and stuff. Then there was that news about them going public, some stuff about their engine technology (maybe they're trying to license it? idfk), stuff like that. No idea what's going on over there other than it looking like they're ready to expand in a pretty big way. I guess that Crossfire 2 money is good.
Whatever their Crossfire and 505 deals are, plus whatever they made on Alan Wake PC and their iOS game (which can't be THAT much, surely?). Maybe they still make money off that 2K stock they got when they sold Max Payne?
That what I have been wondering a long time with Remedy but they somehow were always able to fund quite a bit from own funds. Yeah, it will run out at some point but like I edited into my post they are also going public to raise capital.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Nervous anticipation then.
It's called "expand or die." And either good or bad, it's coming from a place of Remedy deciding they can't continue operating as they have in the past.
Yeah, I get why they're doing it, I'm just sad to see old Remedy go.
Bioshocker
Member
Even though Quantum Break was a disappointment I'm always interested in a new Remedy game. Releasing on PS4 this time is a good idea.
miller.skippins
Banned
505games presents....
A Remedy Game.....
Alanna Sleep: The Game
Coming soon....
A Remedy Game.....
Alanna Sleep: The Game
Coming soon....
Sad Affleck
Member
I am so in. I've bought every Remedy game on PC except Quantum Break (which I will also buy as soon as a good deal pops up). It's one of the best studios around.
To be honest I don't think you need a huge budget for a good Remedy action game. If they nail the gameplay then the cutscenes can be Max Payne-style for all I care.
To be honest I don't think you need a huge budget for a good Remedy action game. If they nail the gameplay then the cutscenes can be Max Payne-style for all I care.
Possumowner
Member
Nice, look forward to seeing what they've got to offer
Salty Hippo
Member
I don't know why everyone is ignoring this:
"Remedy is also investing in P7 and is deeply committed to creating an unique gaming experience that will keep the players engaged and playing for a long time to come."
This is not your typical Remedy game. Probably not even single player focused by the sound of that.
"Remedy is also investing in P7 and is deeply committed to creating an unique gaming experience that will keep the players engaged and playing for a long time to come."
This is not your typical Remedy game. Probably not even single player focused by the sound of that.